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Japanese are making fun of ISIS
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Jan 25 15, 11:41
RawandKurdistani
Jan 25 15, 6:16

Quoting limited to 2 levels deep"Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body"

- Corinthians 6:18

"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his Heart"

- Matthew 5:28

"Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry"

- Colossians 3:5

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God"

- Galatians 5:19-21

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God"

- Corinthians 6:9-11

"But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints"

- Ephesians 5:3

There's many reasons to why the sexual Liberty we have in Europe Isn't healthy for man, which I might cover another day.


Theology is not philosophy. That's why we have the rule of law in the civilised world and not Sharia law. What you are free to do under the rule of law is have any belief you want no matter how radical with the proviso that you don't try to impose it through force on anyone.

Your religious beliefs are yours and whatever church/mosque you frequent but what other people think/believe is their right too. That's why in the west we have a saying: "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.”
― Voltaire ".
Her biji! I agree with this.
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RawandKurdistani
Jan 25 15, 10:20
kurdishpatriot
Jan 25 15, 10:14

Quoting limited to 2 levels deep"Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body"

- Corinthians 6:18

"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his Heart"

- Matthew 5:28

"Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry"

- Colossians 3:5

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God"

- Galatians 5:19-21

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God"

- Corinthians 6:9-11

"But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints"
It gets imposed on us and brainwashes our youth (especially those in the West) by Kurds that have already been brainwashed to promote bad western ideals. It's only gonna be a matter of time before western authorities start to complain about the lack of LGBT-rights in Kurdistan like they do regarding Russia, wait and see.
you are not to judge what are facts, so say i find the western values bad, instead of western values are bad because the majority on this forum disagrees on you to.
Edited by kurdishpatriot, Jan 26 15, 1:19.
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kurdishpatriot
Jan 26 15, 1:19
RawandKurdistani
Jan 25 15, 10:20

Quoting limited to 2 levels deep"Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body"

- Corinthians 6:18

"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his Heart"

- Matthew 5:28

"Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry"

- Colossians 3:5

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God"

- Galatians 5:19-21

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God"

- Corinthians 6:9-11

"But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints"
you are not to judge what are facts, so say i find the western values bad, instead of western values are bad because the majority on this forum disagrees on you to.
I know they're bad, If you're so smart and not simply brainwashed, then you tell me what's so good about supporting LGBT-rights, and secondly how It doesn't go against all that our ancestors believed in? Go ahead, I'll be waiting.

And what If most of this forum disagrees? This is about actual facts, not about what people want to believe.
Edited by RawandKurdistani, Jan 26 15, 1:35.
I am confused by God's wisdom:
In this world of States
Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed,
What for have they all become fugitives, condemned?


Ahmad Khani

Feed the hungry and visit a sick person
And free the captive
If he be unjustly confined
Assist any person oppressed
Whether Muslim or non-Muslim


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RawandKurdistani
Jan 26 15, 1:33
kurdishpatriot
Jan 26 15, 1:19

Quoting limited to 2 levels deep"Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body"

- Corinthians 6:18

"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his Heart"

- Matthew 5:28

"Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry"

- Colossians 3:5

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God"

- Galatians 5:19-21

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God"

- Corinthians 6:9-11

"But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints"
I know they're bad, If you're so smart and not simply brainwashed, then you tell me what's so good about supporting LGBT-rights, and secondly how It doesn't go against all that our ancestors believed in? Go ahead, I'll be waiting.
i just told you to judge it with a "I find" behind it. you can call me braiwashed or something but i simply am not.
#PROMOTEWOMENRIGHTS
"shengal bo ezdi ya", Ezidi namerin, HATA ARAB NAMAYEN NEK SHENGAL!
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kurdishpatriot
Jan 26 15, 1:34
RawandKurdistani
Jan 26 15, 1:33

Quoting limited to 2 levels deep"Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body"

- Corinthians 6:18

"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his Heart"

- Matthew 5:28

"Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry"

- Colossians 3:5

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God"

- Galatians 5:19-21

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God"

- Corinthians 6:9-11

"But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints"
i just told you to judge it with a "I find" behind it. you can call me braiwashed or something but i simply am not.
You have nothing, you simply find it cool to support western ideals rofl rofl rofl
I am confused by God's wisdom:
In this world of States
Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed,
What for have they all become fugitives, condemned?


Ahmad Khani

Feed the hungry and visit a sick person
And free the captive
If he be unjustly confined
Assist any person oppressed
Whether Muslim or non-Muslim


- Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH)


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RawandKurdistani
Jan 26 15, 1:35
kurdishpatriot
Jan 26 15, 1:34

Quoting limited to 2 levels deep"Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body"

- Corinthians 6:18

"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his Heart"

- Matthew 5:28

"Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry"

- Colossians 3:5

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God"

- Galatians 5:19-21

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God"

- Corinthians 6:9-11

"But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints"
You have nothing, you simply find it cool to support western ideals rofl rofl rofl
No, it is okay to hear your extremismist ideas and hating on the west. But state it as an opinion and not as a fact
#PROMOTEWOMENRIGHTS
"shengal bo ezdi ya", Ezidi namerin, HATA ARAB NAMAYEN NEK SHENGAL!
"A society can never be free without women's liberation" - Abdullah Ocalan
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kurdishpatriot
Jan 26 15, 1:37
RawandKurdistani
Jan 26 15, 1:35

Quoting limited to 2 levels deep"Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body"

- Corinthians 6:18

"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his Heart"

- Matthew 5:28

"Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry"

- Colossians 3:5

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God"

- Galatians 5:19-21

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God"

- Corinthians 6:9-11

"But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints"
No, it is okay to hear your extremismist ideas and hating on the west. But state it as an opinion and not as a fact
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? Either tell me why there's anything good about the crap you support, or simply say "NO! I don't have anything". Attempting to link me with extremism won't cover your own failure to back up your beliefs.
Edited by RawandKurdistani, Jan 26 15, 1:39.
I am confused by God's wisdom:
In this world of States
Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed,
What for have they all become fugitives, condemned?


Ahmad Khani

Feed the hungry and visit a sick person
And free the captive
If he be unjustly confined
Assist any person oppressed
Whether Muslim or non-Muslim


- Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH)


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RawandKurdistani
Jan 26 15, 1:39
kurdishpatriot
Jan 26 15, 1:37

Quoting limited to 2 levels deep"Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body"

- Corinthians 6:18

"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his Heart"

- Matthew 5:28

"Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry"

- Colossians 3:5

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God"

- Galatians 5:19-21

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God"

- Corinthians 6:9-11

"But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints"
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? Either tell me why there's anything good about the crap you support, or simply say "NO! I don't have anything"
heval just don't go off-topic and make it into a religious debate again. I just asked that if you could state your statements as an opinion. And now you are going crazy that i have nothing which i find pretty odd...
#PROMOTEWOMENRIGHTS
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Rawand, I think that religion was against sexual liberty purely out of health related reasons. Religion was written a long time ago, during a time that sex liberty would have been quite negative, given the fact that no protection or medicine was available. So, yes, for the time it was written it was a positive thing, albeit, with many negative aspects, but back then the positive out powered the negative. However, now, we have protection and we have advances medical care. Look at societies that do not practice sexual liberty, which is by the way not a "Western thing" but human nature. We have needs, that are biological, and are of no fault of our own. Look at the amount of priests that abuse children because of their lack of sexual activity. Look at countries in the Middle East, where people molest and so all sorts of things. This is an undisputed fact! Heck, even religion understands that, and has many loop holes that allow sex outside of marriage. Look at Daash, even they understand that sexual activity is a must for a healthy society, hence, their fighters do it all the time through jihad-al-niqah or what ever it is.

Look, I understand that sexual liberty can get out of control, but you're forgetting that it's not something we can control. Whether you allow it, or outlaw it, it will still happen, and trust me, teens are having sex in Kurdistan too. In secret. Just like many drink in secret and ruin the country-side.
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Jan 26 15, 1:41
RawandKurdistani
Jan 26 15, 1:39

Quoting limited to 2 levels deep"Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body"

- Corinthians 6:18

"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his Heart"

- Matthew 5:28

"Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry"

- Colossians 3:5

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God"

- Galatians 5:19-21

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God"

- Corinthians 6:9-11

"But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints"
heval just don't go off-topic and make it into a religious debate again. I just asked that if you could state your statements as an opinion. And now you are going crazy that i have nothing which i find pretty odd...
I'm not your heval, get that straight, hell didn't even know what the hell that word meant before I joined this forum.

You can't ask me to state what I believe as an opinion, when It's obviously the truth, everyone knows well that my points make sense, the only purpose of sexual Liberty has only been to satisfy folks, It was never meant to be the best-functioning model of society, STD issues, teenage pregnancies, divources, prostitution are all evidence of how the lust of people has only brought pain upon society, none can deny this. What do you wish to accomplish be defying these facts? At the end of the day you wish to get married yourself, so why are so obsessed with making toys out of people's sons and daughters, denying people grandchildren? What is the purpose and why can't someone speak out because you don't like the truth?
I am confused by God's wisdom:
In this world of States
Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed,
What for have they all become fugitives, condemned?


Ahmad Khani

Feed the hungry and visit a sick person
And free the captive
If he be unjustly confined
Assist any person oppressed
Whether Muslim or non-Muslim


- Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH)


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Jan 26 15, 1:43
Rawand, I think that religion was against sexual liberty purely out of health related reasons. Religion was written a long time ago, during a time that sex liberty would have been quite negative, given the fact that no protection or medicine was available. So, yes, for the time it was written it was a positive thing, albeit, with many negative aspects, but back then the positive out powered the negative. However, now, we have protection and we have advances medical care. Look at societies that do not practice sexual liberty, which is by the way not a "Western thing" but human nature. We have needs, that are biological, and are of no fault of our own. Look at the amount of priests that abuse children because of their lack of sexual activity. Look at countries in the Middle East, where people molest and so all sorts of things. This is an undisputed fact! Heck, even religion understands that, and has many loop holes that allow sex outside of marriage. Look at Daash, even they understand that sexual activity is a must for a healthy society, hence, their fighters do it all the time through jihad-al-niqah or what ever it is.

Look, I understand that sexual liberty can get out of control, but you're forgetting that it's not something we can control. Whether you allow it, or outlaw it, it will still happen, and trust me, teens are having sex in Kurdistan too. In secret. Just like many drink in secret and ruin the country-side.
Religion is against such not because of Health reasons, but because of the mental outcome It will surely give you, promiscuity will make sure you'll never be satisfied with a future partner, your brain will adapt the system of moving from partner to partner, you will never be able to settle down without having secret porn files on your computer, you will eventually get bored of normal sex because you've simply seen enough of it, It will lead you to seek more extreme satisfaction, you will feel that women on the streets are just not fine, you'll always seek the best you've seen on porn sites, and so you'll (once Again) never be satisfied, divorces will increase because of this, children will be born from multiple mothers and share the same father and vice versa, people become too demanding.
Yes, the fewest of children are fully educated, It's the responsibility of the parents to take properly care of them, teach them what is right and wrong, It's a huge problem that some parents let their children to whatever they want, they're on their own all day long, no school needed, they can do whatever they want. Religion never limits you because It wants you to be tormented, all Is for your own sake.
Edited by RawandKurdistani, Jan 26 15, 2:04.
I am confused by God's wisdom:
In this world of States
Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed,
What for have they all become fugitives, condemned?


Ahmad Khani

Feed the hungry and visit a sick person
And free the captive
If he be unjustly confined
Assist any person oppressed
Whether Muslim or non-Muslim


- Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH)


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True story, but does this mean we shouldn't help someone when we have the ability to do so? For me this attitude coming from the Japanese is immature and unacceptable. This is about lives, these people are held captive and mocked for it. The "artists" behind these pictures are straight out retarded, they would hate to be mocked if they were placed in this position themselves, so why are they mocking these victims?

Question: why should anyone be proud of their nationality, if their compatriots mock them when their lives are put at risk?
these are japanese people man. they look at things quite differently from the rest of the world. Beside, I would say they have probably the most individualistic society, it's everyone for himself/herself.many of their men don't even like women, some are disgusted by porn and prefers hentai porn instead. some people just love and worship themselves and fixes their looks every 2 minutes. it's not a strange world. it is what it is.
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"While Western culture holds fast to the idea that true love flames for ever", nature apparently meant passions to die down. In something like 4 years. Primitive pairs stayed togheter just "long enough to rear one child through infancy". Then each would find a new partner and start all over again. Men who sought new partners had more children. Contrary to common assumptions, women were just as likely to stray. Prehistoric females could garner extra resources, life insurance, better genes and more varied DNA for the biological futures. hence those who sneaked into the bushes with secret lovers lived on. So spare me the bullshit. We're all probably descendant from "sluts". What is considered to be moral is a new invention. We're not so diferent from animals, not at all.
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RawandKurdistani
Jan 26 15, 1:58
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Jan 26 15, 1:43
Rawand, I think that religion was against sexual liberty purely out of health related reasons. Religion was written a long time ago, during a time that sex liberty would have been quite negative, given the fact that no protection or medicine was available. So, yes, for the time it was written it was a positive thing, albeit, with many negative aspects, but back then the positive out powered the negative. However, now, we have protection and we have advances medical care. Look at societies that do not practice sexual liberty, which is by the way not a "Western thing" but human nature. We have needs, that are biological, and are of no fault of our own. Look at the amount of priests that abuse children because of their lack of sexual activity. Look at countries in the Middle East, where people molest and so all sorts of things. This is an undisputed fact! Heck, even religion understands that, and has many loop holes that allow sex outside of marriage. Look at Daash, even they understand that sexual activity is a must for a healthy society, hence, their fighters do it all the time through jihad-al-niqah or what ever it is.

Look, I understand that sexual liberty can get out of control, but you're forgetting that it's not something we can control. Whether you allow it, or outlaw it, it will still happen, and trust me, teens are having sex in Kurdistan too. In secret. Just like many drink in secret and ruin the country-side.
Religion is against such not because of Health reasons, but because of the mental outcome It will surely give you, promiscuity will make sure you'll never be satisfied with a future partner, your brain will adapt the system of moving from partner to partner, you will never be able to settle down without having secret porn files on your computer, you will eventually get bored of normal sex because you've simply seen enough of it, It will lead you to seek more extreme satisfaction, you will feel that women on the streets are just not fine, you'll always seek the best you've seen on porn sites, and so you'll (once Again) never be satisfied, divorces will increase because of this, children will be born from multiple mothers and share the same father and vice versa, people become too demanding.
Yes, the fewest of children are fully educated, It's the responsibility of the parents to take properly care of them, teach them what is right and wrong, for religion never limits you because It wants you to be tormented, all Is for your own sake.
And what are you basing this on? your own personal experience? come on now! actually what you're describing are the direct result of not exercising sexual liberty. People that intercourse outside of marriage and finally settle, do so because they find an adequate match, and not because they have been deprived and rushed into marriage simply to exercise it. This is a common issue among Middle Eastern people, and it why domestic violence is higher in our region compared to other parts of the world. The anger, and frustration are all a direct result of lack of sex. Rawand you can not argue with biology. Religion is supposed to be a spiritual satisfaction, after all you leave your body in this world and only your soul leaves and so, how can religion, a spiritual phenomenon go against the very biology of human nature? This is an animal trait, and it is not something can we change. Repressing it only brings about trouble.

P.S: Stop using low-class issues as a counter argument, it does not work. Teenage pregnancies and HIVs are not a result of sexual liberalism, but out of pure and shear stupidity of the lower class.
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I'll be back later, know I already have my response, but I don't have the time to write It just yet.
Edited by RawandKurdistani, Jan 26 15, 2:13.
I am confused by God's wisdom:
In this world of States
Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed,
What for have they all become fugitives, condemned?


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Feed the hungry and visit a sick person
And free the captive
If he be unjustly confined
Assist any person oppressed
Whether Muslim or non-Muslim


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It's only gonna be a matter of time before western authorities start to complain about the lack of LGBT-rights in Kurdistan like they do regarding Russia, wait and see.
Who are you to complain about gays? You want to ban all heterosexual activities to the exclusion of that practiced within a marriage, so of course men will relieve their urges on sodomy. Indeed, the Muslim world is notorious for perversions like pederasty and bestiality.

Islamists like you are the real advocates of degeneracy, not us.
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Jan 26 15, 2:06
"While Western culture holds fast to the idea that true love flames for ever", nature apparently meant passions to die down. In something like 4 years. Primitive pairs stayed togheter just "long enough to rear one child through infancy". Then each would find a new partner and start all over again. Men who sought new partners had more children. Contrary to common assumptions, women were just as likely to stray. Prehistoric females could garner extra resources, life insurance, better genes and more varied DNA for the biological futures. hence those who sneaked into the bushes with secret lovers lived on. So spare me the bullshit. We're all probably descendant from "sluts". What is considered to be moral is a new invention. We're not so diferent from animals, not at all.
Rawand doesn't believe in science, bringing up laws of science will not work.
Edited by kurdishpatriot, Jan 26 15, 2:41.
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Rawand, personally I am with you. One should not go around sleeping around everywhere, but that is my personal belief, and I don't believe that it should be enforced on others under any circumstance, because this is a personal choice, and can not be enforced on others with other needs, because this is the brew for an unhealthy society.
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haha Sexual liberation? Just stop, just stop please. If you are in a relationship with a partner and married to them, you are expected to fulfill his or her rights in the marriage. If you cannot commit to not cheating, then simply don't marry. It's not rocket science. My man talks about "urges" are you an animal? The difference bewteen animals and humans is we have the ability to reason and rationalize.

Conctraception isn't banned in Islam, it's simply discouraged. That's the difference. It's only in Judaism and Catholic church that are extremely harsh on contraception.


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Religion is supposed to be a spiritual satisfaction, after all you leave your body in this world and only your soul leaves and so, how can religion, a spiritual phenomenon go against the very biology of human nature? This is an animal trait, and it is not something can we change. Repressing it only brings about trouble.

It doesn't, but that's the point of religon not to bend to such lowly desires. Whence the term 'spirtual elevation'. It's not a case of "repressing desires", but overcoming them. Not because some man in a book tells you, but because as I just said to spirtually elevate you.(That's of course if you believe in God)
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The sexual revolution, also known as a time of sexual liberation, was a social movement that challenged traditional codes of behavior related to sexuality and interpersonal relationships throughout the Western world from the 1960s to the 1980s.[1] Sexual liberation included increased acceptance of sex outside of traditional heterosexual, monogamous relationships (primarily marriage).[2] Contraception and the pill, public nudity, the normalization of premarital sex, homosexuality and alternative forms of sexuality, and the legalization of abortion all followed.[/quote]

:D Yeh another neo-liberalistic political ideology. But somehow it's Kurdish culture. If this is normal in Kurdish culture, then I must be Chinese. Some Diaspora Kurds actually talk out of their ass, with all due respect. ;)
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JJ, don't use insulting words and cover it with "due respect" as that is no respect all. Engage others with respect.

Anyway, get back to topic please. We all have different views and we clearly won't agree. Just remember, you wouldn't like it if we forced you to intercourse outside of marriage, so you can't expect a red carpet for doing the opposite.
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Jan 26 15, 3:11
JJ, don't use insulting words and cover it with "due respect" as that is no respect all. Engage others with respect.

Anyway, get back to topic please. We all have different views and we clearly won't agree. Just remember, you wouldn't like it if we forced you to intercourse outside of marriage, so you can't expect a red carpet for doing the opposite.
That literally made no sense, literally. So what you are saying is, people can cheat if they want? Okay... I never said they couldn't. I can jump off a cliff if I wanted to. Does that mean I should? It's pretty similar to marriage, sure you can cheat. It doesn't mean we shouldn't encourage it, or else what the hell is the point of marriage.


Actually I was being quite respectful, but I find it insulting to make claims "it was a part of our culture", no just no.
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jjmuneer
Jan 26 15, 3:19
AlanJunior
Jan 26 15, 3:11
JJ, don't use insulting words and cover it with "due respect" as that is no respect all. Engage others with respect.

Anyway, get back to topic please. We all have different views and we clearly won't agree. Just remember, you wouldn't like it if we forced you to intercourse outside of marriage, so you can't expect a red carpet for doing the opposite.
That literally made no sense, literally. So what you are saying is, people can cheat if they want? Okay... I never said they couldn't. I can jump off a cliff if I wanted to. Does that mean I should? It's pretty similar to marriage, sure you can cheat. It doesn't mean we shouldn't encourage it, or else what the hell is the point of marriage.


Actually I was being quite respectful, but I find it insulting to make claims "it was a part of our culture", no just no.
He said having sex without marrying... So not cheating lol.
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Quoting limited to 2 levels deepJust remember, you wouldn't like it if we forced you to intercourse outside of marriage, so you can't expect a red carpet for doing the opposite.
He said having sex without marrying... So not cheating lol.
NO HE SAID WITHIN, FK SAKE:
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you wouldn't like it if we forced you to intercourse outside of marriage, so you can't expect a red carpet for doing the opposite.

Twisting words for laughs. WTF don't piss me off right now. We were specifically tlaking about marriage, and my nigga is trying to say premarital sex, infact that is another debate.
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jjmuneer
Jan 26 15, 3:19
AlanJunior
Jan 26 15, 3:11
JJ, don't use insulting words and cover it with "due respect" as that is no respect all. Engage others with respect.

Anyway, get back to topic please. We all have different views and we clearly won't agree. Just remember, you wouldn't like it if we forced you to intercourse outside of marriage, so you can't expect a red carpet for doing the opposite.
That literally made no sense, literally. So what you are saying is, people can cheat if they want? Okay... I never said they couldn't. I can jump off a cliff if I wanted to. Does that mean I should? It's pretty similar to marriage, sure you can cheat. It doesn't mean we shouldn't encourage it, or else what the hell is the point of marriage.


Actually I was being quite respectful, but I find it insulting to make claims "it was a part of our culture", no just no.
Lol what? Cheating? Hell no. Sex prior-to marriage. Sorry if I conveyed it incorrectly. Look, you exercise your life as you wish and others will expect the same.
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