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| Turkish general election 2015; Coverage of the election, in particular to the HDP and the Kurdish region | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 8 15, 1:21 (43,607 Views) | |
| Ali Alqosh | Jun 8 15, 9:09 Post #226 |
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lol HDP even got one from Bursa I really wanna see what the nationalist turks think of this election ![]() |
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| Adler | Jun 8 15, 9:18 Post #227 |
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In the end the Kurds did a favour to Turkey. That Erdogan had to be stopped. He ruins the political system of Turkey and their reputation in the West. And that reputation is important for Turkey. No matter, which delusions of grandeur some megalomaniac Turks may have in mind when it comes to Turkish greatness, glory and a new Ottoman Empire. Edited by Adler, Jun 8 15, 9:20.
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"The people are sleeping better if they don't know how laws and sausages are made" Bismarck | |
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| Halo | Jun 8 15, 9:35 Post #228 |
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| Qandil | Jun 8 15, 9:41 Post #229 |
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This is the first post in this topic. I have made links to a few posts that people might think are interesting. This is in case people want to look at a few posts for reference, but don't bother looking through the thread. Example, the "Kurdistani provinces that were lost" post could be useful to check, in the future, to see how we have progressed in votes in cities like Rîha and Cewlik. Picture: ![]() If you have any posts (your own are fine too), that you would like to see added to the list for future references, let me know.
Edited by Qandil, Jun 8 15, 9:42.
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| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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| Halo | Jun 8 15, 9:46 Post #230 |
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nice, MHP won't be forimg coalition with AKP |
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| Halo | Jun 8 15, 9:47 Post #231 |
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lurks say most point to a new election |
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| Halo | Jun 8 15, 9:49 Post #232 |
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or what is minority government? |
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| Worldwar2boy | Jun 8 15, 9:53 Post #233 |
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minority government is when the other parties allow one party (or minority coalition) to govern alone, but a minority government is shizz because the others can still veto new bills or withdraw their support at any time |
| biji kurd u kurdistan !! | |
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| Halo | Jun 8 15, 9:55 Post #234 |
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so basically re-election |
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| Tevger | Jun 8 15, 10:13 Post #235 |
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CHP+MHP could form a minority government with the confidence votes of HDP. |
| '' Don't touch me doctor! My death is necessary for the Kurds to wake up'' | |
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| Fire | Jun 8 15, 10:14 Post #236 |
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Re-election doesn't make much sense as we'd get the exact same tableu again. As long as all four parties pass the threshold a coalition is inevitable. If re-election happens, you can be sure that extreme cheating will be going on and they will try to keep HDP under the threshold. If that happens AKP would have the majority again without a coalition. But no Kurd will accept that. This would mean war without a shadow of a doubt. I still expect a AKP-MHP coalition. Edited by Fire, Jun 8 15, 10:15.
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| Qandil | Jun 8 15, 10:22 Post #237 |
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Unexpected or controversial Kurdistani provinces that were won This is a post about unexpected or controversial provinces that were won. Some of them are also regained, which we e.g. won in 2011, but lost in 2014 in the presidential election. We're going to look at the vote difference between yesterdays election and previous ones. I won't be looking at HDP strongholds such as Amed, Hakkari or Wan, but provinces like Erdêxan (Ardahan), Qers (Kars), Îdir (Igdir), Bidlîs (Bitlis), Dersim (Tunceli) & Mûş. Even though in the previous elections, it was BDP, I'll just write HDP. Erdêxan (Ardahan): Election 2014: AKP: 34,3% - 3.371 votes CHP: 33,7% - 3.316 votes HDP: 10,8% - 1.061 votes Election 2015: AKP: 26,22% - 14.759 votes CHP: 22,20% - 12.494 votes HDP: 30,37% -17.096 votes Qers (Kars): Election 2014: MHP: 28,4% - 11.116 votes CHP: 25,1% - 9.840 votes AKP: 25% - 9.807 votes HDP: 19,3% - 7.566 votes Election 2015: MHP: 14,03% - 20.507 votes CHP: 11,96% - 17.485 votes AKP: 26,64% - 38.950 votes HDP: 44,00% - 64.315 votes Îdir (Igdir): Election 2014: MHP: 42,4% - 17.442 votes HDP: 44,2% - 18.168 votes Election 2015: MHP: 27,08% - 25.700 votes HDP: 56,73% - 53.844 Bidlîs (Bitlis): Election 2014: AKP: 40,6% - 8.832 votes HDP: 43,9% - 9.546 votes Election 2015: AKP: 30,95% - 47.738 votes HDP: 60,35% - 93.104 votes Dersim (Tunceli): Election 2014: CHP: 30,8% - 5.258 votes HDP: 42,4% - 7.244 votes Election 2015: CHP: 20,62% - 10.871 votes HDP: 60,95% - 32.137 votes Mûş: Election 2014: AKP: 48,5% - 18.799 votes HDP: 40,8% - 15.812 votes Election 2015: AKP: 24,28% - 46.940 votes HDP: 71,32% - 137.878 votes Again, we can conclude a steady increase in votes in provinces that were previously both won and lost. The result difference in a year is very huge! Take a look at Mus, in 2014, we gained 15.812 votes, but yesterday, we gained 137.878 votes! In Bidlis, last year, 9.546 votes, yesterday, 93.104 votes. Same can be said about Erdêxan & Qers. Take a look at this post & the 'Kurdistani provinces that were lost' post and see the huge vote increase. And this is not even in the strongholds such as Amed, Wan & Agri. To be more clear: More Kurds are voting for HDP and we are actually regaining thought-to-be lost Kurdish provinces. Politically, Kurds in Bakûr have a bright future! |
| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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| Şirnex | Jun 8 15, 10:23 Post #238 |
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demirtas said HDP will not form a coalition with AKP, that means we will se either AKP-MHP or minority government CHP-MHP. Both is Bullshit |
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| Fire | Jun 8 15, 10:26 Post #239 |
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The problem is that all three turkish parties are shizz. They are all occupiers and enemies of Kurds, nothing else. That's why for us the one and only important thing is that a Kurdish party like HDP is successful. |
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| Tevger | Jun 8 15, 10:30 Post #240 |
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I dont think you understand these politics. none of the opposition parties ( HDP+CHP+MHP) would wish re-election because re-elections will only serve AKP who will say '' see, they can not come to agreement and our country is being thrown into chaos. Vote for us and we will re estabilish order'' this is 100% certain. So now, it seems, CHP+MHP will form minority govenrment with HDP. There is no other option. Even if MHP form coalition with AKP this does not mean anything to Kurds. HDP's success is a success in itself. Whether we become a part of government or not. |
| '' Don't touch me doctor! My death is necessary for the Kurds to wake up'' | |
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| Şirnex | Jun 8 15, 10:33 Post #241 |
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jes, doesnt matter who governs, the main thing is that kurdish nationalism is rising Edited by Şirnex, Jun 8 15, 10:35.
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| Ali Alqosh | Jun 8 15, 10:38 Post #242 |
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Guys what will happen now? I still think that civil war is quite possible. I don't want to be the partybuster here but let's not get over our heads. Turks are still turks. |
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| Şirnex | Jun 8 15, 10:39 Post #243 |
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i dont think that will affect peoplse decision, i expect similar results by re-election |
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| Tevger | Jun 8 15, 10:42 Post #244 |
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Yes you are right heval. Maybe after one re-election. But what about the 2nd re election? 3rd re election? people want stability not uncertainty. |
| '' Don't touch me doctor! My death is necessary for the Kurds to wake up'' | |
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| Fire | Jun 8 15, 10:48 Post #245 |
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It's not an easy situation for us. AKP's goal is to keep making re-elections until HDP stays under the threshold. And the cheating will be definitely more extreme than ever before to make that happen. That's why many AKP propagandists keep talking about re-election in TV atm. So, it's in our interest that a coalition happens. |
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| Armanc | Jun 8 15, 10:56 Post #246 |
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I as a Bakuri want to thank our brothers in Rojava, your struggle awaken so many Bakuris and made this victory possible. |
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| Ali Alqosh | Jun 8 15, 10:57 Post #247 |
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Finally you say where you are from. Which city are you from? |
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| Şirnex | Jun 8 15, 10:59 Post #248 |
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let them have their shiz minority government, atleast HDP has a voice then and can drop support anytime. but honestly, i doubt that will happen. neither MHP nor AKP would let it happen. AKP and MHP is more probable |
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| Qandil | Jun 8 15, 11:01 Post #249 |
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I'm guessing Cewlik. ![]()
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| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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| Qandil | Jun 8 15, 11:04 Post #250 |
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Added 'Unexpected or controversial Kurdistani provinces that were won' post to the first page. |
| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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