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| Tevger | May 1 13, 12:59 Post #376 |
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What I think is very tragicomic is that we as Kurds are happy that Arabs are fighting each other. Just like in Syria. How we wish for the regime and the fsa to keep fighting for years to come. It is definitely cold hearted of us, but is there really any other choice for us? |
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| Deleted User | May 1 13, 2:34 Post #377 |
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Alan your comment is laughable. "Sunnis not anti-Kurds like shias". What was Halabja then? Dude most of these Sunnis get their funding from the lovely Saudi Arabia. Shias are way more pro-Kurd than Sunnis, and I don't know if your saying Sunnis not anti-Kurd because you are sunni, but trust me I know from personal experience they are. There are many Shia factions against kurdish nationalism, but they are religously motivated, not ethnically, their secterarianism against both Sunni Kurds and Arabs, it doesn't matter where you are from to them. And even Shias aren't united to begin with, you will know if you have been to Baghdad. What do you mean Ilam and Amed 100 years difference? You haven't been to Ilam, so you cannot comment on this. Ilamis aren't nationalistic, because they haven't been influenced by nationalism. That doesn't mean they aren't proud of being Kurds, being proud of being Kurdish and being a nationalist are two different things. By the way I can assure you there are south Kurds who don't even view Fayli kurds as Kurds purely because majority of Faylis are Shia. They ovbiously religously motivated, you know southerrn Kurdish villages have religious element to them. You don't get it I'm not saying I want Maliki to survive, actually the opposite, but your solution is worse. Your stating the Sunnis are better off taking over. And tel me who are these sunnis exactly? All religiously motivated and not only that pan-arabs. |
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| Deleted User | May 1 13, 2:40 Post #378 |
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That is a joke, if you think they are dead then you are naive. You really think these people who ruled i-rack by a ironfist are just gone? They fled to other countries and went into hiding, and in i-rack there is sympathy for them. |
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| Qandil | May 1 13, 2:46 Post #379 |
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The Shias (Maliki's army) has yet to kill a Kurd. The i-racki Sunnis however, has killed thousands of us. Therefore, i-racki Shias cannot be compared to i-racki Sunnis. Even if we are in disputes with them. Generally, the amount of killing Shias (only Shia Iran really) has committed on Kurds, does not even exceed 1/4 of the killings committed by Sunnis on us. Edited by Qandil, May 1 13, 2:48.
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| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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| Deleted User | May 1 13, 3:06 Post #380 |
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Shia Iran is a different story, Shia Iran isn't even shia to begin with. The Mullahs do not follow the Quran, they kill innoncent peoples, they drink, they intercourse with prosistutes. They are all corrupt thugs who use and twist religon for their own purpose. |
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| Kurdislemani | May 1 13, 3:09 Post #381 |
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Kak JJ is somehow right. i-racki shias are more pro-kurds. But then again the shia government is loyal to iran..and it can't be trusted. Arabs in general can't be trusted. 99% of the i-racki sunnis I know are still hardcore baathis at heart. |
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| Halo | May 1 13, 4:15 Post #382 |
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No of course there is no other choice and it isn't like they have been kind to us either. We kurds have been too kind hearted and merciful for a very long time, look where we stand today. Edited by Halo, May 1 13, 4:25.
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| Halo | May 1 13, 4:17 Post #383 |
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heheh, these arabs are crazy |
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| Halo | May 1 13, 4:37 Post #384 |
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there is only one solution and that's i-rack divided into 3 parts because neither saudis or iranians wants to loose influence over the region. |
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| Halo | May 1 13, 4:42 Post #385 |
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Discussing wether the shias or sunnis are more pro-kurds is just as ridiculous and stupid as the discussion we had about which part of Kurdistan had suffered the most. |
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| Tevger | May 1 13, 8:47 Post #386 |
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This is so true. Let us not get hit by Stockholm Syndrome. We can only count on ourselves to start with. Once we are in a power situation ( which will come very soon) we can start talking about who to trust. |
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| ALAN | May 1 13, 10:06 Post #387 |
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Shia army can't kill us even Sunnis retuning to power can't touch us the era has changed we are no longer under threat by anyone in SK thanks to peshmerga it's not like irackis are pro Kurd neither Shia nor Sunnis, like I said iracki is iracki Sunni or Shia same sh1t different smell. if maliki could he would do worst to us and he had said "once we get f16s we will make them suffer" so don't ya all be fooled yet. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | May 1 13, 10:37 Post #388 |
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poor maliki more Sunnis join the fight on a daily basis |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Tevger | May 1 13, 11:15 Post #389 |
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Who is arming them? They did get a vast variety of weapons in a rather quick fashion... |
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| Halo | May 1 13, 11:26 Post #390 |
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maybe a neigbouring country with vast oil reserves like saudiarabia |
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| Brendar | May 1 13, 11:41 Post #391 |
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Let the shitte and sunnishit sects kill each other all day. Its a better idea not to interrupt them at this moment.
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| Xoybun | May 2 13, 5:04 Post #392 |
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Rebels in Syria, we, or Turkey through us...Or maybe from i-racki weapons supply, armory. I mean, anyone in i-rack can go shoot a guard or kill him with a stone and take the guard's ak47 and pistol and then kill others...then the armory lol. Could be the Sunni soldiers within IA. |
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| ALAN | May 2 13, 10:54 Post #393 |
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This tribe from Anbar announced the formation of the 1st sunni brigade, and the leader of it has said most of them are saddam fidayeen and former republican guards, these guys are very touch fighters and experienced as well. From Kurdish officers - FB |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Kurdistano | May 2 13, 12:00 Post #394 |
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If they are as experienced as this dijla commander fagot than I doubt they will have any difference to normal young Soldiers, maybe even worse fighters. |
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| ALAN | May 2 13, 6:47 Post #395 |
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Syria is being destroyed while Assad displays remarkable staying power ![]() Two years in, the president still has powerful foreign friends and significant defections from the Alawite hard core are still absent Bashar al-Assad visits an electricity station in Damascus. Significant defections from the Alawite hard core of the army and security forces are still absent. Photograph: Sana Handout/EPA Ian Black It is one of the enduring features of the Syrian crisis that Bashar al-Assad has proved far more resilient than many imagined. Journalists and commentators have spent the past two years negotiating a landscape strewn with propaganda, illusions and substantial doses of wishful thinking, finally to grasp that he has real staying power. The president still has loyal, powerful allies, as Hassan Nasrallah, Hezbollah's leader, made clear on Tuesday. Lebanon's Shia militia, he pledged, would stand by its fellow stalwart of the "axis of resistance". Russia and Iran – "real friends" – would not let Assad fall. Syria illustrates a sort of Middle Eastern Murphy's law – anything that can make things worse invariably happens: massacres, refugees fleeing to Jordan, tensions in Lebanon and Iraq, the use of chemical weapons, the risk of conflict with Israel. Most days see scores or more dead so that a revision of the UN's estimate of 70,000 fatalities seems long overdue. Diplomacy is non-existent. No one believes in a negotiated solution. Syria is being destroyed. It would be wrong to describe the mood in Damascus as upbeat – it is a tense and frightened city that resounds constantly to the noise of war. But there is a sense in Syrian government circles that their arguments are starting to hit home. Assad insisted from the start that he faced not a popular uprising for democracy and freedom – the template of the early days of the Arab spring – but "armed terrorist gangs" financed by Saudi Arabia and Qatar and supposedly allied with the US, Turkey and Israel. Like all successful propaganda, some parts of this pitch were true, others blatantly false. Arab enmity is real enough. But the Islamist character of the uprising has been exaggerated. The US has done little more than co-ordinate arms deliveries by the Gulf states – with Barack Obama stamping on more proactive proposals by the CIA and Pentagon. The fact that Syria's fractured opposition is so scathing about Washington has barely dented the grand conspiracy theory. Israel preferred the devil it knew in Damascus – and a Golan front that had been peaceful for 40 years – to the uncertainties of post-Assad chaos. Weapons supplied to Hezbollah by Iran are far superior to anything yet given to the Syrian rebels. Now Assad says that the enemy is al-Qaida and that Syria and the west should be on the same side. There is certainly alarm as the Free Syrian Army (FSA) loses ground to the jihadi Jabhat al-Nusra. Thus the vetting of FSA men being trained in Jordan to fight on a new "southern front" centred on Daraa. But Jordan frets too about Syrian threats and the risk of blowback. Following the flurry over chemical weapons, leaving the impression that US "red lines" can be surprisingly flexible, the latest signal from Washington is that Obama is considering "lethal" aid to the rebels if Russia fails to change tack and pressure Assad. Opposition expectations of the US, however, remain low. Foreign friends apart, regime resilience is still part of the big picture. Military gains have been made in counter-attacks near Idlib and Damascus and rebel supply lines hit hard. Academic Thomas Pierret emphasises the "kin-based/sectarian character of the military" and the absence, still, of significant defections from the Alawite hard core of the army and security forces. Syrians point out that the Assad family prepared for this crisis for decades, internally and externally. The president and his men talk of fighting to save the country and of elections in May 2014: that's another fearful year away with little prospect of immediate change and a reasonable expectation of still worse yet to come. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | May 2 13, 6:52 Post #396 |
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dijla thugs were shia Arabs 0 combat experience while these saddam fadayen (built takers) and former republican guards are fierce fighters god forbid they even one day would fight with Peshmerga it will be a tuff one!. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Kurdistano | May 2 13, 10:52 Post #397 |
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Alan not in the past nor now they are tuff fighters. In opposite I see them weaker to young frustrated soldiers. In the past they could simply rely on their advantage on military equipment. Not a single of these Baathist fagots could or would have dared to fight the Peshmerga. We saw these "tuff" Bathist fagots when they surrendered to US soldiers without a real fight. |
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| Qandil | May 2 13, 11:02 Post #398 |
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Breaking New… Military intervention on Anbar tomorrow i-racki Prime Minister, Nuri al-Maliki gave Anbar protests until tomorrow, Friday, before the “decisive” military intervention to break up the Sit-in or transfer it to another place, Independent MP Kamel al-Dulaimi said on Thursday. “Nuri al-Maliki gave Anbar’s protests 48 hours ends tomorrow to break up the Sit-in or move it to another place before the decisive military resolution “ noting, “we sought during the past few days and in person to void our people in Anbar from clashing with the armed forces and bloodshed to keep the demonstrations peaceful,” Dulaimi said at a news conference in the parliament attended by ”Shafaq News”. “We agreed with Mr. al-Maliki to postpone decisive military intervention for 48 hours,” he added. The leadership of Anbar police and operations as well as the Awakening Council of i-rack gave the protestors 24 hours as a deadline to hand over the offenders to justice or to resort to military decisiveness options, it has extended the deadline so that Anbar provincial council would reach a settlement between the demonstrators and the security forces to hand over the killers and inspect the sit-in square. It is worth mentioning that dozens of tribal elders decided to withdraw from the sit-in square after the death of five i-racki soldiers by gunmen from the sit-in square. Source: http://www.shafaaq.com/en/politics/5985-breaking-news-maliki-gives-anbars-protestors-until-tomorrow-before-military-intervention.html |
| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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| ALAN | May 3 13, 1:20 Post #399 |
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I really don't care who wins or loses just want them to fight we need more jobs at our hospitals we need injured fighters to patch up to make our living standards better. thou I don't want innocent people to get hurt best is to leave for the 22 Arab states out there. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | May 3 13, 2:43 Post #400 |
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Hawija violence rises unemployment 1/5/2013 19:44:00 The recent clashes between the protesters and the security forces in Hawija, a town in the province of Kirkuk, have left negative effects on the life of many people. The businessmen and other people complained that the clashes had negatively affected their economic lives. This has concerned the Iraqi Government over the consequences that these clashes have left. PUKmedia |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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