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May 1 13, 4:37
there is only one solution and that's i-rack divided into 3 parts because neither saudis or iranians wants to loose influence over the region.
If i-rack divided into three parts then there will be war between Kurds and Sunnis over Kirkuks oil!
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May 11 13, 2:43
If i-rack divided into three parts then there will be war between Kurds and Sunnis over Kirkuks oil!
Even Sunni and Shiite Arabs combined can’t defeat our Zagros-Aryan warriors of Peshmerga! But Sunni Arabs are to afraid to fight against Kurds, they will never fight Kurd. The only thing what they can do are terrorist Al-Qaeda attacks on Kurdistan soil. But we Kurds don’t have endless patience, if that happen a couple of times, we will deport ALL Arabian desert rats from Kurdistan!
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Vaasaav
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Simko
May 1 13, 4:37
there is only one solution and that's i-rack divided into 3 parts because neither saudis or iranians wants to loose influence over the region.
If i-rack divided into three parts then there will be war between Kurds and Sunnis over Kirkuks oil!
Are you a troll? If it is divided into three, then it will do the opposite.
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Simko
May 1 13, 4:37
there is only one solution and that's i-rack divided into 3 parts because neither saudis or iranians wants to loose influence over the region.
If i-rack divided into three parts then there will be war between Kurds and Sunnis over Kirkuks oil!
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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jj: any reason why you disliked the sunni dulaimi militants? they are not anti kurd by any means, anbaris have never been anto kurdish, so i dont get your attitude towards all of this, unless you are taking the side of maliki/iran!!?? i need a clear position from you towards all of this sunni vs shia war in irack and syria!. are you worried as a shia kurd that the Shiite religion/power in the region will decrease vs the sunnis!!? and with which ever side winning i dunno how you are worried about it as this has nothing to do with "Kurdistan"! we dont care who is what as our nationality comes before our religion jj its in our national anthem, so shiite kurds in Xanaqin will be safe in Kurdistan you got nothing to worry about there, but i guess your worry kind of makes sense since your family lives in irack not Kurdistan.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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May 11 13, 3:21
jj: any reason why you disliked the sunni dulaimi militants? they are not anti kurd by any means, anbaris have never been anto kurdish, so i dont get your attitude towards all of this, unless you are taking the side of maliki/iran!!?? i need a clear position from you towards all of this sunni vs shia war in irack and syria!. are you worried as a shia kurd that the Shiite religion/power in the region will decrease vs the sunnis!!? and with which ever side winning i dunno how you are worried about it as this has nothing to do with "Kurdistan"! we dont care who is what as our nationality comes before our religion jj its in our national anthem, so shiite kurds in Xanaqin will be safe in Kurdistan you got nothing to worry about there, but i guess your worry kind of makes sense since your family lives in irack not Kurdistan.
My family also live in Ilam and Kirmanshan which is Kurdistan, dude only a fraction of my family live in Baghdad.

No I'm not worried about Sunnis having more power in i-rack, IM TERRIFIED. Just look at what Saddam Hussien did to us regardless of shia or sunni he murdered Kurds equally. And remember these "Sunnists" use religon to advance their nationalist agenda. Just look at Muqatadas use of propaganda, he mixes nationalist sentiment and religon now.

And I don't support Iran or Maliki, however I find it impractical to find any other solution, I mean Persians won't rise up against their regime, and well Iraqis are secterianized since 2003.

Cna I ask do you trust sunnis because you are a Sunni or because this particular group hasn't done anything to Kurds?
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I know you have family in EK but EK is safe from war for now we are talking about irack here.

And no, i dont trust sunnis one bit and never will, have you ever seen me defend the iraqiya list or sunni irackis? see my topics on their genocides towards us in SK, read my comments on Hawija arabs :) and also see my comments on iraqiaforum.org. i know how brutal sunnis were to us jj trust me i have "seen it" but thanks to Peshmerga strength they are now totally given up to face us ever again lol they couldn't even defeat PYD let alone KRG. i actually want a civil war to break out in irack we as Kurdistan will benefit it from it 1st as when they are in peace they turn onto us, you see they get bored not to have a war that is irackis for you. best to let the war from syria get transferred and it will legitimize SK secession from shithole irack. but i know as i am from SK the anbaris have never hated kurds, the Hawijians, Tkriti, Mosulis yes but the anbaris never.

On another note jj: go watch the "gardalul" series in the cinema topic see how the sunni irackis treated us. but dont get too carried away with maliki he would do worst than them if he had the chance, he has threaten us few times and did create dijla against us but it all benefited it to our advantaged in the end, thanks all to our Peshmerga.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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But Alan, you cannot say Milki is worse, since he hasn't killed a Kurd yet. What more worse can there be than chemical warfare? Even if we go war against the Shias, I don't even think their actions would ever be compared to that of Saddam's Ba'ath.
"Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn.
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you keep missing the point, today SK Kurds are not Kurds of pre 1991 Saddam era, even after 1991-2003 "saddam was alive" and he couldn't touch kurds in Kurdistan anymore as autonomy got secured so maliki not been able to do the same thing has alot to do with Peshmerga and our recognized autonomy, now with Peshmerga and its strength we are a force to be reckoned with, thus he cant kill a kurd in KRG but in the Kurdish sliced off areas he tried to do so 3 times ill get to it in a second. He has made plans to do so and even ssc thugs have confirmed it, they are all awaiting for the arrival of their f16s so dont be on much of a rush yet. not too long ago he sent a plane to check up on Peshmerga positions in Domalan - Kerkuk which we shot down. now imagine if that was an f16. i dont think we yet have such weapons to shoot them down if he sends them as he has planned. watch some of Barzanis interviews with foreign medias he talks about this. and maliki did order tanks onto us in 2008 in xanaqin the situation almost exploded, the sunnis and US actually got in between. he sent his militia to Zummar hence the stand off, again he then created dijia to invade Kerkuk, "if only we did not have the Peshmerga" he would have invaded all these 3 places from SK and killed many of us like his friend in syria is doing to innocent people. the shia of irack are no different from the sunnis, go read ssc for yourselves they are all shia except chounez, sinjar and some delusional assyrian lostie. look at shaytan and euphrates for a very good example. even the shia parties told this to kurds few months ago "sorry during saddam we were both oppositions and needed each other now we are in power and we do not need you kurds". they sent this in a letter to Barzani it was all over SK news agencies.

i think he talks about these in this vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufTq0GWNToc
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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May 11 13, 4:32
I know you have family in EK but EK is safe from war for now we are talking about irack here.

And no, i dont trust sunnis one bit and never will, have you ever seen me defend the iraqiya list or sunni irackis? see my topics on their genocides towards us in SK, read my comments on Hawija arabs :) and also see my comments on iraqiaforum.org. i know how brutal sunnis were to us jj trust me i have "seen it" but thanks to Peshmerga strength they are now totally given up to face us ever again lol they couldn't even defeat PYD let alone KRG. i actually want a civil war to break out in irack we as Kurdistan will benefit it from it 1st as when they are in peace they turn onto us, you see they get bored not to have a war that is irackis for you. best to let the war from syria get transferred and it will legitimize SK secession from shithole irack. but i know as i am from SK the anbaris have never hated kurds, the Hawijians, Tkriti, Mosulis yes but the anbaris never.

On another note jj: go watch the "gardalul" series in the cinema topic see how the sunni irackis treated us. but dont get too carried away with maliki he would do worst than them if he had the chance, he has threaten us few times and did create dijla against us but it all benefited it to our advantaged in the end, thanks all to our Peshmerga.
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both, you say shia irackis are better than the sunnis, which is 100% wrong, if they had the chance they would do the same to us, they already have tried to arabized 3 kurdish areas outside of KRG administration, Xanaqin, Zummar and Kerkuk. apparetnly maliki is waiting for his f16 to invade these areas as he cant do it with the current militia and weapons he has. and sunnis are brutal i know but when the sunni vs shia war breaks out it will have no impact on Kurdistan then it will be very wise for kurds outside of SK to head to SK when this war heats up like syria, do you agree with that?
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Fallujah Shekh: "Maliki is similar to Holako"

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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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May 11 13, 7:06
both, you say shia irackis are better than the sunnis, which is 100% wrong, if they had the chance they would do the same to us, they already have tried to arabized 3 kurdish areas outside of KRG administration, Xanaqin, Zummar and Kerkuk. apparetnly maliki is waiting for his f16 to invade these areas as he cant do it with the current militia and weapons he has. and sunnis are brutal i know but when the sunni vs shia war breaks out it will have no impact on Kurdistan then it will be very wise for kurds outside of SK to head to SK when this war heats up like syria, do you agree with that?
Show me one time I said Shia Iraqis are better than Sunni Iraqis? But lets be fair here if it wasn't for Maliki F16s would be flying into Baghdad to bomb the Kurdish quarters.
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Erdogan says Turkey backs US land attack against Syria

The Prime Minister of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced his country will back the United State of America’s land attack against the Syrian government, NTV msnbc said.
Specking to NBC News, Erdogan said on Friday the Syria President Bashar al-Assad’s political system has no more ways to stay “since it has applied chemical weapons against the people.”
“The US should take a serious stance against Syria as it has crossed the redline by using chemical weapons against the people,” Erdogan said, referring to a US president Barack Obama’s term.
Obama said month ago that using chemical weapon by the Syria government is a White House redline and it may lead to some form of foreign intervention.
“The US should assume more responsibilities and take further steps,” he said, adding that Ankara will help US in attacking Syria.
Erdogan claimed Turkey National Intelligence Organization (MIT) research and medical tests of Syrian casualties transferred to Syria prove they have been exposed to toxic substances.
Erdogan said he will discuss the issue with Obama in his upcoming visit to Washington, planned for next week.
Erdogan warned Assad and said he would soon be arrested by the oppositions if he does not leave the country.

Source: http://www.kurdpress.com/En/NSite/FullStory/News/?Id=4477#Title=%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%09Erdogan says Turkey backs US land attack against Syria %0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09
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Blast in Northern Kurdistan
Sounds like Bashar is scared of the new peace plan between the PKK and Turkey, LOL. Good, now Turkey can concentrate on Syria instead of PKK.
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Iranians don't give a f**k if you are pro-Iranian. They will still use you like they are using Feylis in EK right now. And if Iranians weren't like the government, then why can't they say no to occupation of Kurdistan. Qazi Muhammad said this and I suggest every Feyli remember it: If a Persian gives you honey, there is poison in it for sure!
How many hangings must there be until the Kurdish people of EK understand that Iran is using them and don't give a shizz about their pro-Iranian views??
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5 bodies believed belongs to protesters found in Mosul

Sunday, 12 May 2013 13:47

Shafaq News / Sheikh of Aekadat clan in Nineveh said on Sunday, that the bodies of five members of his clan in Mosul city, located 400 km north of Baghdad were found.

“The victims disappeared after their abduction nine days ago Mustanteq area in Mosul,” Sheikh Ghazwan al-Mezher told “Shafaq News”.

He added that their bodies were found today dumped on Umm Rabiein island, also called as Mosul island in the center of Tigris River.

Mezher did not refer to the party responsible for the victims kidnapping, saying only that they are from Aekadat clan.

In Nineveh there are gangs of organized crime and Islamist militant organizations that kidnap and extort citizens for money.

But one of the protests’ activists taking place in Nineveh since months ago, named Ehsan accused indirectly the government because the victims are of protesters who are against the policies of Prime Minister, Nuri al-Maliki.

Ihsan told “Shafaq News” that “five protesters of Ahrar Square, was executed by a firing squad”.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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So true (left is now, right is past)
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Isn't it supposed to be the other way around, since i-rack got invaded and their oil can be sold cheaper?
"Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn.
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Isn't it supposed to be the other way around, since i-rack got invaded and their oil can be sold cheaper?
Yep true, i-rack during Saddam's period sold oil at a more expensive rate because they could limit the supply of oil through OPEC.
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you guys missed the point, the point is irack sold its oil during saddam era ppl were poor now it's sold much more expensively but they are starving now. irackis yearly budget is over 100 billion USD but look at their lifestyles and public services!? it's worst than Afghanistan. bcos only maliki and his party steal all the money to themselves. but ssc thugs cry about the 10 billion we get like it will make a different lol all it will do is add more cash to the pockets that currently take all iracks budget. during saddam the yearly budget was under 40 billion USD.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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you guys missed the point, the point is irack sold its oil during saddam era ppl were poor now it's sold much more expensively but they are starving now. irackis yearly budget is over 100 billion USD but look at their lifestyles and public services!? it's worst than Afghanistan. bcos only maliki and his party steal all the money to themselves. but ssc thugs cry about the 10 billion we get like it will make a different lol all it will do is add more cash to the pockets that currently take all iracks budget. during saddam the yearly budget was under 40 billion USD.
I get what your saying, your saying the i-racki government is corrupt and isn't sharing the revenue generated from the oil to the people.

My point was that actually i-rack during the Kuwait war artificially reduced and limited supply of oil to raise its price.
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This is disgusting. This is a war crime, cannibalism is a crime against humanity! doh :koko: *shock

Syria Rebel Defends Gruesome Video as Revenge

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" A Syrian rebel who was filmed apparently cutting out and eating the organs of a soldier has defended his actions as revenge for regime atrocities, Time magazine reported on Tuesday.

The U.S. news weekly said it had talked by Skype with the fighter, identified as Khalid al-Hamad, who appeared in a video that sparked outrage and condemnation, including from the Syrian opposition.

Hamad claimed he was driven to the gruesome acts by footage on the dead soldier's cellphone, showing him "humiliating" a naked woman and her two daughters.

The magazine said Hamad described participating in other acts of mutilating regime forces, including militiamen known as shabiha.
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http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/82993-syria-rebel-defends-gruesome-video-as-revenge
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I've seen the video, it is messed up.
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May 16 13, 12:07
I've seen the video, it is messed up.
I don't want to see it, because I do already sleep terrible at nights.
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