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FeyliKurd
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May 23 13, 12:30
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May 22 13, 9:51

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I did some searching, but I only found Sehids. Do you want to see Kirmansahis as well? Some of these fought for HPG, and others fought for PJAK.

Born in Ilam, but died in Sirnax:

http://www.hpg-sehit.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=3056:hewr%C3%AA-kelhor-daryu%C5%9F-havasi&Itemid=134

Born in Ilam, but died in Lice:

http://www.hpg-sehit.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=3217:firat-margi-ruhallah-sidinecat&Itemid=134

Born in Kirmansah, but died in Sirnax:

http://www.hpg-sehit.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=1169:suwar-k%C4%B1rman%C5%9Fah-muhammed-kubadi&Itemid=112

Born in Kirmansah, but died in Botan:

http://www.sehid.com/sehitbiyografi-3157.html

Born in Kirmansah, but died in Hakkari:

http://www.sehid.com/sehitbiyografi-226.html

Born in Kirmansah, but died in Meriwan:

http://www.sehid.com/sehitbiyografi-3554.html

Born in Kirmansah, but died in Hakkari:

http://www.sehid.com/sehitbiyografi-3225.html (however, picture is invalid, but quick google search, and I found him: http://www.kurdishphotos.net/thumbnails-search.html&keywords=on&search=%C5%9Eaho+Serbest+-+Necim+Selimi)

Sehid namirin!
Thank you for posting this.

And many thanks to PJAK who are protecting the feyli areas of EK.. Sehit namirin! kf
Edited by FeyliKurd, May 23 13, 1:23.
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May 23 13, 12:30
jjmuneer
May 22 13, 9:51

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I did some searching, but I only found Sehids. Do you want to see Kirmansahis as well? Some of these fought for HPG, and others fought for PJAK.

Born in Ilam, but died in Sirnax:

http://www.hpg-sehit.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=3056:hewr%C3%AA-kelhor-daryu%C5%9F-havasi&Itemid=134

Born in Ilam, but died in Lice:

http://www.hpg-sehit.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=3217:firat-margi-ruhallah-sidinecat&Itemid=134

Born in Kirmansah, but died in Sirnax:

http://www.hpg-sehit.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=1169:suwar-k%C4%B1rman%C5%9Fah-muhammed-kubadi&Itemid=112

Born in Kirmansah, but died in Botan:

http://www.sehid.com/sehitbiyografi-3157.html

Born in Kirmansah, but died in Hakkari:

http://www.sehid.com/sehitbiyografi-226.html

Born in Kirmansah, but died in Meriwan:

http://www.sehid.com/sehitbiyografi-3554.html

Born in Kirmansah, but died in Hakkari:

http://www.sehid.com/sehitbiyografi-3225.html (however, picture is invalid, but quick google search, and I found him: http://www.kurdishphotos.net/thumbnails-search.html&keywords=on&search=%C5%9Eaho+Serbest+-+Necim+Selimi)

Sehid namirin!
Heval I'm not sure if the first one is Ilami, his last name is 'Khelur', he probably Kirmanshani born in ilam.

Can I see more Ilamis please?

And Sehd Namirin! U HEZAR SILW ERE SHEID MAN!
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May 22 13, 10:11
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jj gyan can you post that picture you posted on RBK!? of the Feyli areas of SK and EK!?
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May 23 13, 2:54
Heval I'm not sure if the first one is Ilami, his last name is 'Khelur', he probably Kirmanshani born in ilam.

Can I see more Ilamis please?

And Sehd Namirin! U HEZAR SILW ERE SHEID MAN!
That is only what I could find about Ilamis. Those two websites are the only primary sources for sehids. I checked other websites, but to no avail.
"Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn.
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May 22 13, 9:38
heval jj: to me it doesn't matter, if they are Feylis then they MUST protect and preserve their land whether its EK or SK, to me a Feyli from EK has EVERY right to settle in Feyli areas of SK :)
they have the right to settle all throughout Kurdistan , Slemani, Duhok or Hewler it doesn't matter-
Edited by Kurdistano, May 23 13, 5:53.
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^^ yes but you missed my point, a Suli or Duhoki would not go leaving his city to live in those areas but these Feylis in Baghdad could, bcos those areas are Feyli's ancestral lands in Kurdistan. if Kurdish population increases there they can demand Peshmerga but now Feyli population there has dropped dramatically and dangerously!
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Thanks jj, here i have highlighted where Jalawla, Sadyea and Qara Tapa are located in the red circle. do you know what a country like Israel would do for a land of this size right now!? and don't forget Mandali as well!! :sad:

look at the 2nd picture if Jalawla, Sadyea and Qara Tapa are arabized Mandali will be lost and disconnected from SK completely.. :rolleyes:
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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May 23 13, 11:02
Thanks jj, here i have highlighted where Jalawla, Sadyea and Qara Tapa are located in the red circle. do you know what a country like Israel would do for a land of this size right now!? and don't forget Mandali as well!! :sad:

look at the 2nd picture if Jalawla, Sadyea and Qara Tapa are arabized Mandali will be lost and disconnected from SK completely.. :rolleyes:
I guess they'd fight for it,
Do you know how much of a percentage is Kurdish?
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i think this is why KRG is now trying to gain at least Qara Tapa so Mandali is now entirely disconnected.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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May 23 13, 11:06
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May 23 13, 11:02
Thanks jj, here i have highlighted where Jalawla, Sadyea and Qara Tapa are located in the red circle. do you know what a country like Israel would do for a land of this size right now!? and don't forget Mandali as well!! :sad:

look at the 2nd picture if Jalawla, Sadyea and Qara Tapa are arabized Mandali will be lost and disconnected from SK completely.. :rolleyes:
I guess they'd fight for it,
Do you know how much of a percentage is Kurdish?
what do you mean jj? for which part?
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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what do you mean jj? for which part?
Jalawla and Sadyea.

Alan do you know any Mandali Peshmerga battilion?
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They were once 80% Kurdish that was 2003, but ever since then its now like 30%, most have migrated to SK-Kelar and Xanaqin, been forced out by the sunni extremist terrorists
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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They were once 80% Kurdish that was 2003, but ever since then its now like 30%, most have migrated to SK-Kelar and Xanaqin, been forced out by the sunni extremist terrorists
They need to form a Militia or something like Kerkûk.
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Kerkuk has no militia jj what are you talking about :rolleyes:
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Kerkuk has no militia jj what are you talking about :rolleyes:
They had no local peshmerga?
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When Like you mean now! I'm confused! did you just call Peshmerga "militia"!!??
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Kerkuk has no militia jj what are you talking about :rolleyes:
They had no local peshmerga?
All the Peshmergas who fought in Kerkûk was under PUK administration.
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When Like you mean now! I'm confused! did you just call Peshmerga "militia"!!??
Militia: A military force of civilians to supplement a regular army in an emergency.
A military force that engages in rebel activities

In the 1960s 70s Peshmerga were made up of ordinary folk, now they are official.
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edit: IMO what needs to be done is the young Feyli Kurds from baghdad or even EK need to join Peshmerga till a brigade is reached then they can ask for transfer to protect and de-arabized our lands in mentioned areas!, best to let their commander be a Feyli as well!.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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edit: IMO what needs to be done is the young Feyli Kurds from baghdad or even EK need to join Peshmerga till a brigade is reached then they can ask for transfer to protect and de-arabized our lands in mentioned areas!, best to let their commander be a Feyli as well!.
Feylis have plenty of experts of military affairs.
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well there you go, if there is will there will be action too :)

i told FeyliKurd this as well, an awareness has to be created for those kurds to move their sense of nationalism :)
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Dividing Iraq: Now is the time to split the country in half

24.5.2013
By Daoud al-Ali, Baghdad - Niqash

BAGHDAD,— Currently Iraqi commentators seem to think there are two options for ending current protests and ensuing violence: civil war between Sunni and Shiite Muslims. Or a new Iraq with various autonomous regions.

Over the years since the US-led invasion of Iraq that toppled Saddam Hussein, there has often been discussion about whether it would be a good idea to split Iraq up, mainly dividing the country into the two sects of Islam that make up most of the population: that is, Sunni and Shiite Muslim.

And every now and then the idea has seemed a credible solution to Iraq’s troubles, when violence between the two sects and other ethnicities has continued to threaten the general public’s well being and lives. Now is such a time too – and mainly because of the protests comprised mainly of Sunni Muslim demonstrators in certain parts of the country.

The Sunni Muslim protestors say they are discriminated against and marginalised by the current Shiite Muslim-led government in Baghdad, headed by Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki.

Recently things became even more tense when Iraqi army forces, acting on behalf of the Shiite Muslim-led government, turned on mostly Sunni Muslim protestors in Hawija in the north of the country, killing around 50 demonstrators. Since then there have been a number of deadly incidents around the country.

Recent events in Iraq indicate an escalation [of sectarian tensions],” Harith Hassan, an Iraqi political researcher, wrote on his personal blog. “The increased tensions may lead to the failure of the current political process and the increased levels of violence could ignite a new civil war. Social divides in the Iraq would become even more established. All this would put an end to any opportunity for peaceful coexistence.”

Hassan believes that current protests have seen the Sunni Muslims of Iraq starting to form their own ethnic identity even more strongly, which takes them even further from Iraqi nationality. He also warned against the increasing influence of extremist groups within the ranks of the protestors as well as growing links between them and similarly radical groups fighting in Syria. Recently there’s been evidence that the so-called Islamic State of Iraq, a particularly violent group with links to the Sunni Muslim extremist group, Al Qaeda, has been fighting among Sunni Muslims in Syria.

At a May 19 press conference Iraq’s Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said that his government was considering new strategies for domestic security. Partially this was because some of the recent attacks used methods security personnel had not seen before. For example a senior police officer in Baquba, the capital of Diyala province,www.ekurd.net explained that at a bomb attack outside the Sunni Muslim Sariyat al-Jadid mosque, extremists had used two bombs. After the first had gone off, it was followed by a second explosion which killed those who had rushed to the aid of the first bomb’s victims.
“In both attacks, armed groups also used new forms of explosives," the police officer said.

In terms of the escalation of sectarian conflict, there is evidence that both sects have been forming their own militias in response to the growing violence. And neither side has been short of emotional rhetoric either. In a statement issued by Lebanese-based Hezbollah in mid-May, the Shiite Muslim group wrote that, “they murdered us for centuries before Saddam Hussein and they continued to do so when Saddam ruled the country. Even today, they don’t stop murdering us. Nothing will stop them. They don’t believe in a partnership, they believe they are our superiors. We, the political majority, should be prepared for the clash.”

Similar speeches have been made by Iraq’s Sunni Muslims. “Some of the tribal leaders here have agreed that things cannot go backwards,” Hamid al-Jibouri, one of the leaders in Sunni Muslim protests in the central Iraqi city of Samarra, told niqash. “That’s why they and their men have agreed to carry arms and joined the protestors’ group that is against the government.”

All of this is why the idea of splitting Iraq into regions based on their sectarian populations is being revived again. At the same May 19 press conference even the Prime Minister seemed to welcome the idea.

"Anyone who wants to form a region in Iraq should express that intention openly,” al-Maliki said. “And we will welcome it. However, we won’t tolerate the use of force. These demands can only be achieved through constitutional mechanisms.”

Meanwhile local politician Hamid Majid Mousa, the Secretary General of the Iraqi Communist Party, believes that his colleagues must take some of the blame for the current escalation. “These unfortunate calls for revenge and retaliation are the reason behind the exacerbation of the problem and the increased violence, and are the basis for the formation of armies, militias and armed gangs. And they’re being repeated by politicians,” Mousa complained. “We cannot solve the problem this way. By doing what we always do, we’re only making things worse and removing any possibility for a peaceful solution.”

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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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They shouldn't put that eagle there, they don't deserve it. A suicide bomber or a sheep would be better
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May 26 13, 10:24
They shouldn't put that eagle there, they don't deserve it. A suicide bomber or a sheep would be better
haha true its an insult to Saladins legacy.
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