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LOL It's like these Arabs have never seen fire before.
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As David Willis reports from Washington, President Obama had previously said proof of chemical weapons would be a "game-changer" in Syria

The US is to supply direct military aid to the Syrian opposition for the first time, the White House has announced.

President Obama made the decision after his administration concluded Syrian forces under Bashar al-Assad were using chemical weapons, a spokesman said.

Ben Rhodes did not give details about the military aid other than to say it would be "different in scope and scale to what we have provided before".

The US had warned any use of chemical weapons would cross a "red line".

The BBC's Jim Muir in Beirut says the US announcement is one that the Syrian opposition has been pushing and praying for for months.

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BBC News, Washington

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America now believes that forces loyal to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad have used small quantities of chemical weapons, apparently crossing President Obama's "red line". After the experience of i-rack, many will question this until the "evidence" is made public. The BBC investigated one of these incidents, and establishing proof beyond doubt is extremely difficult.

The US says it will now increase "military support" to the armed opposition led by Gen Idris. What we do not know is whether that means providing weapons.

If the US does and the objective is to press President Assad to attend peace talks, that will be a difficult and lengthy task while Iran and Hezbollah actively bolster Damascus. If the aim is to facilitate a military victory for the rebels, that will require a massive flow of weapons, it will further regionalise the conflict, and will undoubtedly lead to even more death.
It seems clear that President Obama has finally been persuaded, as Britain and France have argued, that the battlefield cannot be allowed to tilt strongly in the regime's favour, as is currently happening, he adds.

Washington's "clear" statement was welcomed by Nato Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen.

"Urgent that Syria regime should let UN investigate all reports of chemical weapons use," he said on his official Twitter feed.

But a spokesperson for UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon told the BBC that he remained against "any further militarisation" of the conflict in Syria, saying the people there need peace not more weapons.

'High confidence'

Mr Rhodes, a deputy national security adviser to Mr Obama, said the US intelligence community believed the "Assad regime has used chemical weapons, including the nerve agent sarin, on a small scale against the opposition multiple times over the last year".

He said intelligence officials had a "high confidence" in their assessment, and also estimated that 100 to 150 people had died from chemical weapons attacks, "however, casualty data is likely incomplete".

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The President has said that the use of chemical weapons would change his calculus, and it has”
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Ben Rhodes

US Deputy National Security Adviser

Audio statement from Ben Rhodes
Text statement from Ben Rhodes
"We have consistently said the use of chemical weapons violates international norms and crosses red lines that have existed in the international community for decades," Mr Rhodes said.

Mr Rhodes said President Obama had made the decision to increase assistance, including "military support", to the Supreme Military Council (SMC) and Syrian Opposition Coalition.

He did not give details of the aid, but administration officials have been quoted by US media as saying it will most likely include sending small arms and ammunition.

The New York Times quoted US officials as saying that Washington could provide anti-tank weapons.

Syria's rebels have been calling for both anti-tank and anti-aircraft weaponry.

The Wall Street Journal reported that Washington is also considering a no-fly zone inside Syria, possibly near the border with Jordan, that would protect refugees and rebels who are training there.

When asked whether Mr Obama would back a no-fly zone over Syria, Mr Rhodes said one would not make a "huge difference" on the ground - but would be costly.

He said further actions would be taken "on our own timeline."

The CIA is expected to co-ordinate delivery of the military equipment and train the rebel soldiers on how to use it.

Until now, the US has limited its help to rebel forces by providing rations and medical supplies.

Mr Rhodes said the White House hoped the increased support would bolster the effectiveness and legitimacy of both the political and military arms of Syria's rebels, and said the US was "comfortable" working with SMC chief Gen Salim Idris.

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What is sarin?
One of a group of nerve agents invented by German scientists as part of Hitler's preparations for World War II
Huge secret stockpiles built up by superpowers during Cold War
20 times more deadly than cyanide: A drop the size of a pin-head can kill a person
Called "the poor man's atomic bomb" due to large number of people that can be killed by a small amount
Kills by crippling the nervous system through blocking the action of an enzyme
Can only be manufactured in a laboratory
Very dangerous to manufacture
Syria's chemical weapons stockpile
"It's been important to work through them while aiming to isolate some of the more extremist elements of the opposition, such as al-Nusra," he said.

A senior pro-Kremlin politician in Russia - an ally of Syria - said US claims of the Assad government's use of chemical weapons were "fabricated".

Likening it to when the US wrongly claimed Saddam Hussein held chemical weapons in i-rack, Alexei Pushkov, head of lower house of parliament foreign affairs committee, tweeted: "Obama is taking the same path as George Bush."

'Long overdue'

The US decision marks a significant escalation of the proxy war that has been gathering pace in Syria, our Beirut correspondent says.

The support of the West's regional allies, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, had helped the rebels in the days after the uprising became militarised.

But the tide turned after the Assad government turned to Moscow and Tehran for help. Hezbollah fighters have also been involved in the government's counter-offensive.

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Many politicians in Britain and France still feel a heavy imperial burden to use their well-honed militaries to re-make the world. Mr Obama, I am sure, feels no such imperative but increasingly finds himself pushed towards acting”
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North America editor

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Now the West is lining up to try and help the rebels, but that is likely to take many months with more bloodshed and destruction, our correspondent adds.

UK and French leaders have long argued that President Bashar al-Assad must be made to realise that he cannot secure a military victory against his opponents and must be forced to the negotiating table, according to BBC political editor Nick Robinson.

The White House announcement immediately shook up the ongoing debate in Washington DC over how the US might provide assistance to the rebels.

Republican Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham, who have been particularly strident in their calls for military aid, said the finding must change US policy in Syria. They called for further action, saying US credibility was on the line.

"A decision to provide lethal assistance, especially ammunition and heavy weapons, to opposition forces in Syria is long overdue, and we hope the president will take this urgently needed step," they said in a joint statement.

Senator John McCain: "We don't want boots on the ground"
"But providing arms alone is not sufficient. The president must rally an international coalition to take military actions to degrade Assad's ability to use airpower and ballistic missiles and to move and resupply his forces around the battlefield by air."

The White House announcement came on the same day the United Nations said the number of those killed in the Syrian conflict had risen to more than 93,000 people.

A UN report released on Thursday found at least 5,000 people have been dying in Syria every month since last July, with 30,000 killed since November.

More than 80% of those killed were men, but the UN's Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) says it has also documented the deaths of more than 1,700 children under the age of 10.
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The chemical weapons was also used on us, instead of sending arms to FSA they should also send some to us.
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syria war in 3D - RT tv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UXoCAoQnLw
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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wtf can't they shut their damn filthy mouth for a second, how friggin annoying, they keep screaming and talking during the video
one time allah akbar is enough, we understand you need to shout the name of god before killing someone
the poor bastard who got hit probably yelled allah akbar aswel

PS: KDP received a lot of those rocket launchers (other type probably) from Israel during the Aylul Revolution of 1961-1970.
They shot down 100 jets/choppers during that revolution. That was the main reason i-rack got kicked out of Kurdistan for 4 to 5 years (yes, South-Kurdistan was free from occupation in the 1970's, everything was controlled by Barzani).

If the Kurds went on for 2 more weeks in 1970, the i-racki army would have been completely destroyed (they had only amo left for 2 weeks, Barzani didn't know this until after the Algiers peace treaty, and then the Ba'ath came back, Iran stopped supporting the support in return for the Shat Al'Arab and Syria send reinforcements).

Edited by Worldwar2boy, Jun 18 13, 5:31.
biji kurd u kurdistan !!
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http://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=1375574305992295

more wave of young arab volunteers enter syria throu Jordan to fight assad and iran
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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This book is released in USA and it talks about the re-birth of 3 smaller states ;-)
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Al-Mafraji’s arrest sparks reaction

The local committees of Hawija and leaders of the Arab tribes have objected to the arrest of Khalid al-Mafraji, one of the coordinators of the Hawija protests.

A military unit of the 12th division of the Iraqi army, which is part of the Tigris operations, arrested Khalid al-Mafraji, one of the coordinators of the Kirkuk protests on Friday, June 21 in his home in the al-Shahabia village after an exploration pursued carried out by the military.

The local committees of Kirkuk and leader of the Arab tribes held a press conference on Saturday, June 22, condemning the arrest of al-Mafraji, and demanding his release as soon as possible.

“The arrest of al-Mafraji is to silent those who are demanding freedom and protesting for their rights,” according to the statements issued during the press conference.

The protests of the Sunni Arabs in Kirkuk's Hawija have been continuing over the past months as part of the wave of the protests against the central government in the Sunni residential provinces across the country.

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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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terrorist killing terrorists, nice.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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this is anti US policy i dunno how and on what grounds US wants to hand over f16 to this sectarian guy!

Maliki Blames Morsi, Brotherhood for Continuing Syria Bloodshed

US Secretary of State John Kerry (R) talking to Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki during an unannounced visit to Baghdad in March, 2013. Photo: AFP

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – Iraq’s prime minister, whose government has sided with the regime in the Syrian civil war, blamed the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood for the continuing bloodshed, saying that even Egypt’s President Mohammed Morsi was encouraging fighters into Syria.

“I am astonished to see the head of a state telling people ‘go to Syria and fight,’” Premier Nuri al-Maliki told a religious gathering of Faili Kurds in Baghdad on Thursday. “He openly gathers clerics and endorses the fight in Syria,” he added, “They also ask for the killing of Shiites,” he charged.

The Shiite premier has opposed the Syrian revolution since its start in March 2011, and has hosted opposition leaders who believe in dialogue with the Damascus regime.

Syrian rebels have in turn accused Maliki of sending military and financial support to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

There have been reports that the Iraqi government has allowed Iranian planes carrying weapons for the Syrian regime to pass through Iraq.

On a visit to Baghdad in March, US Secretary of State John Kerry urged Maliki to scrutinize flights that travel through Iraqi airspace or airports.

Syrian opposition leaders claim that Iraq has provided substantial backing to the Syrian army, which still controls most of the country, against an increasingly battered rebel army.

The Free Syrian Army (FSA) says that, together with fighters from the Iranian-backed Lebanese Hezbollah, Iraqi Shiite volunteers have been fighting alongside the army against rebel forces.

Earlier this month, The Associated Press news agency quoted Jassim al-Jazairi, from the political bureau of Iraq's Hezbollah Brigades, as saying, “The fight in Syria was ultimately for the sake of Iraq's Shiites as well.”

“We feel that Iraq will be the next target after Syria,” he said, adding that Hezbollah Brigades in Syria were not there only to protect Shiite shrines, but to thwart a rising anti-Shiite movement by extremist Sunnis.

Iraq’s own Sunni leaders have also blamed the prime minister of wasting government money on the war next-door, and contributing to the bloodshed.

But in a recent interview with Al-Arabiya TV, while denying that Iraq had offered “any official support to any of the parties involved in the Syrian conflict,” Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said: “Iraq doesn’t deny that there are Iraqi volunteer fighters who are heading to fight in Syria.”

Turning to Iraq’s own rising sectarian violence in his speech, Maliki warned the Muslim Brotherhood against a partnership with Al-Qaeda, saying that the group would eventually turn its guns on the Brotherhood itself.

“Quit stupid sectarianism and let’s build our countries on the constitution and common interests,” Maliki called on Muslims in the region.

Thousands of Shiite Faili Kurds live in Baghdad, and have known allegiance to Iraq’s Shiite parties, including Maliki’s Dawa Party.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Thousands of Shiite Faili Kurds live in Baghdad, and have known allegiance to i-rack’s Shiite parties, including Maliki’s Dawa Party.

rofl Who wrote this article exactly? They need to actually meet some Faylis and visit the region. They can go to Mandali and Khanaqin and see how much we "support the Arabs".
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it is talking about Baghdad not Mandali, and i also know for a fact that Feylis in baghdad voted for shite maliki party, this was revealed in the electoral commission, PUK dug it out actually, when Talabani was still in his post.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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it is talking about Baghdad not Mandali, and i also know for a fact that Feylis in baghdad voted for shite maliki party, this was revealed in the electoral commission, PUK dug it out actually, when Talabani was still in his post.
Show me proof.

Feylis primarily voted for Kurdish parties, and the Faylis that voted for Dawa are a minority who are brainwashed.
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it is talking about Baghdad not Mandali, and i also know for a fact that Feylis in baghdad voted for shite maliki party, this was revealed in the electoral commission, PUK dug it out actually, when Talabani was still in his post.
Show me proof.

Feylis primarily voted for Kurdish parties, and the Faylis that voted for Dawa are a minority who are brainwashed.
lol you dont need proof it was all over PUK media outlets when it happened.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Go to the iracki election data, and see how many Kurdish votes have been there in baghdad in all of the past elections!? that is another way to know. the PUK shut its previous website all data, news etc,.. have been lost that is why now i am taking no chances all PUK media pic articles are attached or i save it in gallery section and post its pic myself, PUK has twice shut its previous site and all data etc were not transfered over.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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lol you dont need proof it was all over PUK media outlets when it happened.
See you have no proof. :) Alan I know you don't like us, but I will tell you this straight up you are just wrong heval. We do primarily vote for Kurdish parties, I have plenty of family members who vote for such, and the PUK as I said before even has a office building setup there. Created by Talibani himself.

Ok just watch this if you think so:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMRwe080idQ
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Do take note, as kak Nova Daban counseled that many Kurds in Baghdad such as Feylis voted for Shia parties
http://seerwan.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/how-many-iraqi-kurds-are-there.html


here is just one of them ;-) , your denial card is running short

Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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only a small fraction actually voted for kurds the rest was all for maliki's party and they have to vote for them as Kurdistan can do nothing for them from Hawler to baghdad.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Do take note, as kak Nova Daban counseled that many Kurds in Baghdad such as Feylis voted for Shia parties
http://seerwan.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/how-many-iraqi-kurds-are-there.html


here is just one of them ;-) , your denial card is running short

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Do take note, as kak Nova Daban counseled that many Kurds in Baghdad such as Feylis voted for Shia parties, or Kurdish nationalist parties

Yes and you do realise one shia party is the 'Kurdish feyli shia part'y?

So you said there were statistics, because if there isn't then you and this man who wrote a blogspot has no actual proof. I'm not "in denial", I'm just look for evidence that proves what you stated.
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only a small fraction actually voted for kurds the rest was all for maliki's party and they have to vote for them as Kurdistan can do nothing for them from Hawler to baghdad.
Again where did you get that number from?
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only a small fraction actually voted for kurds the rest was all for maliki's party and they have to vote for them as Kurdistan can do nothing for them from Hawler to baghdad.
Again where did you get that number from?
i told you mr denial from PUK website but they shut their previous one i cant find it they have deleted all data like the old rudaw website as well.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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i told you mr denial from PUK website but they shut their previous one i cant find it they have deleted all data like the old rudaw website as well.
:) Ok tough guy.
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they even showed it on TV and made a program about it, i remember Khalid Shwani the kurdish MP was talking from baghdad about it, he said there are over 50,000 kurds in baghdad but the kurdistani list got few 1000 votes, where did the rest of the votes go?
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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they even showed it on TV and made a program about it, i remember Khalid Shwani the kurdish MP was talking from baghdad about it, he said there are over 50,000 kurds in baghdad but the kurdistani list got few 1000 votes, where did the rest of the votes go?
Where? You keep showing examples of where we are not voting for Kurdstani list. Khalid Shwani hasn't even visited the feyli areas in Baghdad, so I don't know why you saying such things.
Mandali and Baghdad are two different places. But you don't trust what I say. If I say feylis also voted for communist party, would you believe me?
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Did you actually watch the video I sent you?
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