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Russian FM Lavrov holds urgent press conference on Syria (LIVE UPDATES)

Earlier Lavrov had a telephone conversation with US Secretary of State John Kerry at the initiative of the Russian side.
He urged Washington "not to succumb to provocations" but to ensure that UN weapons inspectors can carry out an objective investigation.
UN weapons inspectors were due Monday to visit the site in Syria where chemical weapons were allegedly used and over which West has warned of consequences for the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.
The opposition said the August 21 bombardment by government forces using a poisonous gas left 1,300 people dead. The government has denied the claim.
The United States said it was weighing its options on Syria and preparing for "all contingencies."

16:41
"Using force in Syria without mandate of UN Security Council would be a serious violation of law," said Lavrov.
17:09
It's an illusiob to think that desrtroying Syrian military infrastructure would end civil war, underlined Russian FM.
17:06
Russia is "not planning to go to war with anyone" over Syria, said Lavrov.
16:58
"We can already see consequences of previous Western interventions in Iraq and Libya, from Mali to Niger to Lebanon to Iraq," said Lavrov.
16:54
Assad regime had nothing to gain from chemical weapons scandal, said Lavrov.
16:53
UN inspection team in Damascus came under sniper fire in area controlled by rebels, underlined Lavrov.
16:52
Lavrov on recent events in Syria: "I have no doubts Syrian officials will be blamed for opening fire on UN inspectors"
16:50
NATO statement they can go into Syria without UN sanctions is perilous route, said Lavrov.
16:49
Lavrov on Syria intervention: "It'd be a huge mistake not leading to any peace and any calm situation. This will only lead to more bloodshed."
16:48
US military buildup means opposition doesn't want to enter talks, said Lavrov.
16:47
The use of force in Syria has severe consequences on the region, said Lavrov.
16:46
Current events are reminiscent of the events leading up to the war in Iraq, Lavroc said.
16:43
Lavrov has mentioned Iraq and Libya several times in this news conference: Moscow doesn't want Syria to end the same way.
16:43
We should think how we could create conditions for regional reconciliation, not divide nations, said Lavrov.
16:39
"You can't fight regime only because you don't personally like the dictator leading it and not fight some regimes where you like the dictator," Lavrov said.
16:38
Diplomatic solution for Syrian crisis has derailed.
16:35
UN experts in Syria have a mandate to determine whether chemical weapons were used, not who used them, said Russian FM.
16:32
West is strying to substitute both UN Security Council and investigatorsin the situation regarding the use of chemical weapons in Syria, said Lavrov.
16:31
"West is unable to present evidence of the involvement of the Syrian authorities in chemical attacks, but states that "red line" in situation has been passed", said Lavrov.
16:29
There is no date yet for 'Geneva-2' Syria peace conference, said Lavrov. The Syrian Opposition is being 'too negative,' he added.
16:28
Lavrov: Kerry said that US remains committed to Geneva-2 peace conference on Syria.
16:27
"Chemical claim hysteria timed to undermine new Geneva talks round," added Russian FM.
16:26
"There is no alternative to the political solution in Syria through Geneva II," underlined Lavrov.
16:25
Lavrov on Syria intervention talk: "The region is destablized in an unprecedented way. So everyone should be responsible"
16:25
Chemical claim hysteria timed to undermine new Geneva talks round.
16:24
There is no alternative for political dialogue and settlement. We have had this movement of inciting provocation before in Iraq and Libya, said Lavrov.
16:23
Attempts to resolve #syria crisis through diplomatic means are being derailed, said Lavrov.
16:23
Cogent proof of chemical guilt trumpeted by US, UK & France, though no evidence Assad regime behind attacks, said Lavrov.
16:22
Those analyses & blogs are not credible, it's all pretext, said Russia FM.
16:21
Some clips relating to chemical weapons usage emerged in Internet hours before news were announced.
16:19
Declaration of usage of chemical weapons should be throughly investigated, said Lavrov.
16:19
Hysteria is growing around chemical attack in Syria, said Lavrov. This hysteria suits those who want military intervention in Syria, he said.
16:10
You may be able to watch Lavrov's press conference online here. The conference will start shortly.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_08_26/Russian-FM-Lavrov-holds-urgent-press-conference-on-Syria-LIVE-UPDATES-4626/
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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here you go jj

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Khomeini's pictures in Baghdad cause altercation in the House of Representatives

26/8/2013 14:26:00

Fist fighting inside the Iraqi House of Representatives was caused by the pictures of the Iranian leader Khomeini which also lead to postponing today' session.
MP Suhad Fadil from al-Iraqiya said in a statement to PUKmedia Monday, August 26, 2013, that the Iraqi House of Representatives' session had witnessed arm fighting between the Iraqiya MP Haidar al-Mula and al-Ahrar Block MP Kadem al-Sayadi. The altercation then turned into an argument between al-Iraqiya and the National Alliance.
MP Fadil clarified that al-Mula criticized holding the pictures of the Iranian Islamic leaders such as Khomeini in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad. Al-Mula criticizing had provoked the MPs of the National Alliance which resulted in an arm fighting with MP Kadem al-Sayadi.
The session had been postponed into a farther notice, Fadil stressed that these kinds of issues should not be discussed during the session.
Iraqiya MP Haidar al-Mula had asked earlier the Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to remove the pictures of Khomeini and Khaminei the Iranian Islamic leaders from the streets of Baghdad.

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Interesting, yeh these are probably recent. Well they can bark all they like, with the exception of Maliki shias who are not really religious, Sadrists, Sistanists and Hakimists are pro Iran. So I think it will balance power out.
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In 48 hours Assad will be hit, this carrier it's on it's way to annihilate his persian army
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Moscow has no plans to be drawn into a military conflict over Syria: Lavrov

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said his country had no plans to be drawn into a military conflict over the civil war in Syria.
We believe in no foreign military intervention in Syria as it would not solve the conflict in the country, he added.
Lavrov further warned in a news conference on Sunday that Washington and its allies would repeat past mistakes if intervened in Syria.
The Russian chief of foreign affairs said last Wednesday’s alleged chemical attack was probably the work of Syria rebels who wanted to derail plans by Washington and Moscow to hold talks on the country’s future.
The two powers are due to meet tomorrow to look at preparations for the conference.
“If anybody thinks that bombing and destroying the Syrian military infrastructure, and leaving the battlefield for the opponents of the regime to win, would end everything that is an illusion,” Lavrov went on to say.

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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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of course you are, Assad will go he dug his own grave using gas AGAINST KIDS *Dislike

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Iraq opposes use of airspace to strike Syria

27/8/2013 09:01:00

Iraq said Monday it opposes the use of its airspace or territory in any attack on Syria, as Western powers warn of possible military action against Damascus, AFP reported.
"We do not agree to any use of our airspace ... to attack any neighbouring country through our land," Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's spokesman told AFP, asked if Baghdad would authorise the use of its airspace in any action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime.
"Our position is fixed on this subject."
The West appears to be moving closer to a military response over last Wednesday's suspected deadly chemical weapons attack near Damascus that shocked the world after grisly pictures emerged of dead children with horrific injuries.
Washington and its allies have pointed the finger of blame at Assad's regime for the alleged attack, the latest atrocity in a conflict that has claimed the lives of more than 100,000 people since March 2011.
The United States has repeatedly called on Iraq to stop flights allegedly carrying arms from Iran to the Syrian regime. Iraq insists Iran has reduced flights transporting arms to Syria but said Baghdad cannot stop them completely.
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Assad is a crucial dog like his Baathist cousin saddam he must go he is a subhuman for using gas on kids

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/08/28/mccain-administration-leaks-on-syria-are-crazy/?hpid=z1

Here’s a telling map of the most likely strike targets in Syria

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It’s not exactly a secret that the United States and United Kingdom are planning a likely campaign of limited, off-shore strikes against Syria. It’s not a secret that they’re pushing to do it quickly, while international outrage over last week’s suspected chemical weapons attack remains fresh.
And it’s not even a secret what sorts of facilities the strikes are likely to target: military infrastructure. The Washington Post graphics team has mapped them out below, with helpful indicators of where U.S. and U.K. forces are based and where Syrian rebels have a strong presence. Scroll below for some notes on the map and the likely strike targets.

Selected U.S. resources in the area

U.K. base in Cyprus

Britain's Akrotiri Air Base is about 100 miles from the Syrian coast and could be a potential point of operation.

U.S. ships

Four U.S. destroyers are moving to the eastern Mediterranean, each with the capability of firing cruise missiles more than 1,000 miles.

Turkey

Incirlik Air Base, a U.S. Air Force installation, has been used for reconnaissance missions in the past.
Potential targets in Syria

Command centers

The Mazzeh and Qasioun military complexes are home to Syria’s special forces, the elite Republican Guard and the 4th Armored Division, all powerful units close to President Bashar al-Assad.

Airstrips

Any operation will probably target air force bases, including the five largest ones shown here, to suppress the regime’s ability to conduct aerial strikes by hitting areas that house fighter planes and attack helicopters.

An improbable target

A suspected chemical attack in the suburban Damascus district prompted the U.S. to consider a military strike in Syria. However, the chemical weapons stockpile is an improbable target because attacking weapons sites increases the risk of dispersing harmful toxins.
SOURCES: Institute for the Study of War, GlobalSecurity, U.S. Navy, Washi

It appears most likely that the primary purpose of the strikes would be to “punish” Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad and his regime for their alleged use of chemical weapons, a ritual meant to deter him from using them again and, hopefully, do the same for any future military leader.
Some reports suggest that, as part of this, the strikes would also aim to degrade the Assad regime’s ability to launch chemical weapons, although this is very difficult given that the regime is thought to have huge quantities and to move them around the country. It’s unlikely that the strikes will target chemical weapons specifically, as this risks dispersing the chemical agents.
One thing you might notice is that, unlike with the Libya intervention of 2011, there are not a whole lot of military assets deployed around Syria. The Libya campaign was a big mission involving several air forces launching repeated strikes and enforcing a no-fly zone over a very big country. But what looks poised to happen in Syria is expected to be much more limited, likely restricted mostly or entirely to off-shore cruise missile strikes against stationary targets like runways and military buildings. That’s an important distinction to keep in mind, one that has implications for the campaign’s more limited scope and possible results, and the map really drives it home.

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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Iran is next after syria thus they are packing their piles of shit

Iranian Leader warns against US attack on Syria

Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei, Leader of the Islamic Revolution, warned against any US military intervention in Syria, noting that the repercussions of such action would be unpredictable.
"The intervention of America will be a disaster for the region. The region is like a gunpowder store and the future cannot be predicted," the leader added.
The leader stressed that foreign intervention in Syria is nothing but warmongering.

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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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US options on Syria include multi-day strikes: Official

28/8/2013 20:31:00

The Obama administration is considering military options that include multi-day strikes on Syrian government targets in response to last week's chemical weapons attack, a senior U.S. official said on Wednesday.

"The options are not limited to just one day," the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity, as the prospects for a U.S.-led air and missile assault on Syria looked all but certain.

Though the White House said President Barack Obama had yet to make a final decision on exactly how to respond, U.S. security officials have said that any air campaign would likely involve cruise missiles fired from U.S. warships in the Mediterranean.

But the United States does not intend to act unilaterally should it choose to go forward with military action, the senior official said. "We're talking to a number of different allies regarding participation," the official said.

Obama, who has long been wary of any intervention in Syria's civil war, has been consulting allied leaders to lay the groundwork for action aimed at punishing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's government for last Wednesday's gas attack near Damascus.

U.S. intelligence agencies were assembling what they are sure to say is final confirmation of the Syrian government's culpability for the chemical weapons attack, and the White House said their report would be completed this week. Assad's government has denied responsibility.

A second administration official said the United States was still defining its objectives but that strikes to deter Assad from using chemical weapons in the future and degrade his ability to do so were under consideration.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said on Tuesday that a U.S. response would not have the goal of "regime change" in Syria, suggesting that Obama remains cautious about getting too deeply involved in the conflict. Polls show most Americans oppose U.S. intervention.

Republican U.S. Senator John McCain, a harsh critic of Obama's Syria policy, rejected that limited goal.

"This conflict cannot be contained within Syria, and we have to understand that and that's why we've got to help these people get rid of Bashar al-Assad, to get the momentum back on their side," he said on MSNBC.

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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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AS LONG AS intervention is good for the Kurdish cause, I am OK with it. OUR OWN NATION FIRST.
biji kurd u kurdistan !!
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Alan, i noticed some of the targeted area is populated by Kurds. Am i wrong, or is this map wrong??
I am confused by God's wisdom:
In this world of States
Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed,
What for have they all become fugitives, condemned?


Ahmad Khani

Feed the hungry and visit a sick person
And free the captive
If he be unjustly confined
Assist any person oppressed
Whether Muslim or non-Muslim


- Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH)


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They are not populated as far as i can see, and they are also hitting Nusra and Qaida bases :)
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Turanic Turkish Al-Qaeda is against any strikes of the US!


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New fears for Syria's jihadists

Amid the considerable media frenzy regarding apparently imminent U.S.-led punitive strikes on Syrian military forces and facilities, one interesting party to this country's conflict has been largely ignored: the jihadists. In recent days, a notable number of members of the online jihadist community -- some involved directly and others indirectly in the conflict in Syria -- have been somewhat fixated on a widespread fear that their leaders, personnel, and bases will also be the target of Tomahawk cruise missiles.

While no Western officials have suggested any such eventuality is being considered, the extent of the discussion is telling. In the last one-and-a-half years, jihadists have established a concrete foothold in the heart of the Middle East. Jabhat al-Nusra maintains an operational presence in 11 of Syria's 13 governorates and the roughly four-month old Islamic State in i-rack and al-Sham (ISIS) -- an extension of al Qaeda in i-rack's (AQI) front group, the Islamic State in i-rack (ISI) -- is catching up fast. This is not to mention at least 10 other decidedly jihadist groups operating on a more localized level across the country. Clearly, this remarkable expansion in jihadist territorial spread and influence is of long-term concern to the West, and it is for this reason that jihadists are so concerned.

In a note entitled "Important Instructions... Before the US initiates its Mission," distributed via social media on August 27, senior Fatah al-Islam leader Abdullah Shaker (Abu Bakr) claimed: "For each and every missile that strikes a [Syrian] missile site, there will be another that targets the mujahideen's positions," suggesting such strikes would aim to kill as many jihadist leaders as possible. Shaker went on to advise all jihadists to "change your positions, take shelter, and do not move in public," and underlined how previous experiences in Mali, i-rack, and Afghanistan had seen "the mujahideen destroyed in a very short time," as the necessary precautions were not undertaken. Shaker also advised against any attempts to deploy anti-aircraft weapons against U.S. "raids" as this would "practically be suicidal."

Similar notes of warning and advice have been distributed by known Jabhat al-Nusra and ISIS members and sympathizers, including an anonymous "brother familiar with the American media." He suggested on August 25 that in addition to U.S.-led strikes targeting Syrian "radar systems, air defence systems, the chemical weapons industry, and stocks of Scud missiles," a second set of strikes would target "the training camps of Jabhat al-Nusra and ISIS, the group's top tier leaders, and the sharia courts." He also suggested "all leaders change their locations... avoid meetings and avoid being present in any area in large numbers... [and] provoke a torrent of misinformation about our plans and locations to confuse the enemy."

While the location of Jabhat al-Nusra and ISIS leadership is kept highly secret -- with the actual identity of Jabhat al-Nusra's Abu Mohammed al-Golani still unknown in open sources -- the location of their facilities are well known. In fact, jihadist media material regularly announces and celebrates the opening of a new town headquarters, or a new sharia court, and so on and so forth. Videos and photographs are everywhere.

However, this is because jihadist groups have integrated themselves into the social mold, particularly in the northern governorates of Aleppo, northern Idlib, and Raqqa, and also in eastern Deir al-Zour. Jabhat al-Nusra and ISIS govern villages, towns, and even a governorate capital, Raqqa, and as such, operate very much in the open. While such militant infrastructure could theoretically be targeted, collateral damage would be inevitable, and in many cases, high. Moreover, the incredibly fluid nature of a countrywide conflict would provide militants with ample opportunity to slip away.

Despite the high levels of concern, there appears to have been no notable shift in jihadist operations in Syria. If anything, ISIS has become more operationally active in the last few days as a result of it having launched its Revenge Volcano operation in reaction to the alleged chemical weapons attack in Ghouta on August 21. The first day of this operation (August 26) saw ISIS launch a series of mortars and Grad rockets into central Damascus, including several apparently aimed at the Four Seasons Hotel, where the U.N. chemical inspectors are staying. Meanwhile, Jabhat al-Nusra, who has also launched its own retaliatory operations -- applying the Islamic term Qisas, or simply, an Eye for an Eye -- continues to be extensively involved in ongoing operations across the country, including the assassination of the governor of Hama governorate on August 25 and the seizure of the strategic town of Khanasser in Aleppo province the following day.

As such, if precautionary moves are being made, they are only affecting the most senior levels of leadership. However, this fits closely with a line taken by a number of prominent jihadists online, which has emphasized that in the event of strikes targeting their leaders or assets, it is critically important that a group sustains its normal level of operations: "any decline in our work will be seen as defeat," said one such comment.

Placing this situation in a less Syria-constrained context was a August 27 report in the Jordan Times in which the notorious Jordanian Salafist Mohammed Shalabi (Abu Sayyaf) claimed the only reason the West planned to carry out strikes in Syria was "to prevent the Syrian people from establishing an Islamic state." In the same report, an unnamed alleged ISIS official threatened that Jabhat al-Nusra and ISIS had already made the decision to carry out attacks "within Syria and abroad against the West should they target our fighters." While the latter threat is most likely bluster, it is notably one of only a small number of Syria-based jihadist threats to attack targets outside of Syria.

As is well known, jihadists worldwide view the West with immense hostility and assess its political motives, policy, and statements with complete skepticism. Throughout the Syrian conflict, a common jihadist assessment of the West's relative lack of a role in backing the armed opposition is that it, in fact, wants to prolong the conflict in order to eventually force a peace agreement whereby President Bashar al-Assad remains in power -- essentially an extension of Shalabi's argument, based on the foundational belief that the West is explicitly hostile to Islam.

Despite all of this highly speculative furor, one thing certainly does appear clear, that some level of U.S.-led, likely NATO ordered military strikes on Syrian military infrastructure is forthcoming. If, as many Syrians hope, such strikes serve to weaken the government's capacity to maintain its air advantage and to continue to prevent existentially threatening militant advances, the long-term issue of the extensive and consolidated presence of jihadist militancy in Syria will remain a key concern for policy makers in the West.

While the focus today remains on the current conflict in Syria and on how it will one day end, if Assad does eventually fall, a second battle will inevitably commence: one that will decide who, if anyone, takes the reins of power in Syria. Within such a situation, jihadists will very much be involved.

Charles Lister (@Charles_Lister) is a terrorism and insurgency analyst based in London. The views expressed here are written in a personal capacity and do not represent those of his employer.



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Al-Nusra leader meets CIA officials

The leader of al-Nusra militant group has met with two CIA officers as well as Saudi deputy minister of defense Prince Salman bin Sultan in Jordan capital city of Amman.
According to former Austrian general, Matthias Ghalem, who was leading international troops in occupied Golan Heights, al-Nusra Front leader Abu-Mohammad al-Jolani signed a financial-military contract to confront upcoming military and security challenges in southern Syria in near future.
According to Ghalem who quoted Colonel Ahmed al-Naameh, head of the rebel Revolutionary Military Council in southern Syria, two deputies of Robert Stephen Ford, US former ambassador to Syria, were also presented in the meeting.
Saudi deputy minister of defense Prince Salman bin Sultan also participated in the meeting on behalf of his brother Bandar Bin Sultan who is in charge of surveying Syria developments and scheming new operations in this regards.
In the meeting it was also decided that the militant group of al-Nusra Front only to be joined with so-called Free Syrian Army (FSA) to fight against Syrian army.
CIA operatives have been secretly providing the Syrian militants with training on the use of anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons for months, The Los Angeles Times reported earlier.
Since the opening of a new US base in the desert in southwest of Jordan in November 2012, the CIA operatives and US special operations troops have covertly trained the militants in groups of 20 to 45 at a time in two-week courses.
The militants receive training with Russian-designed 14.5-millimeter anti-tank rifles, anti-tank missiles, and 23-millimeter anti-aircraft weapons, according to a militant commander in the Syrian province of Dara’a.
The training program has also been conducted in Turkey, the report said.
The report comes weeks after President Barack Obama ordered the CIA to directly provide the militants in Syria with weapons.


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France’s Plan of Attack in Syria

French President François Hollande might be President Obama's only military ally in Syria.

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“Punishment” against the Damascus government, as French President François Hollande put it, would consist only of aerial strikes on military units that have used chemical weapons, according to a source in the French Cabinet. Chemical ammunition warehouses would be spared in order to avoid uncontrollable explosions. The militaries of potential coalition forces believe they know exactly where these warehouses are.
Therefore, it’s not a question of attacking Syria’s entire army, as was done against Saddam Hussein’s army in Iraq and Muammar Qaddafi’s in Libya. Hollande made that clear in an interview in Le Monde.
The idea is “punishment,” in the French president’s words, or “a shot across the bow,” to use the American president’s phrasing, in response to Bashar Al-Assad’s use of chemical weapons, particularly on Aug. 21, which undoubtedly resulted in about 1,000 deaths. Western forces don’t want to destroy Syrian airplanes, tanks, or command centers—destruction that would surely change power dynamics on the ground—they just want to send a reminder that chemical weapons are a “red line” for the international community.
Military forces will be ready to strike by Saturday, Aug. 31, but the strikes will probably be postponed because of the British Parliament’s having vetoed an intervention. The Labour Party said no to David Cameron to live down Tony Blair’s participation in attacking Saddam Hussein alongside George W. Bush. The challenges and failures of the Iraq intervention cost Blair dearly, and Ed Miliband, the current Labour leader, clearly wants to rehabilitate his party’s image in the eyes of a public very reluctant and skeptical of the benefits of this kind of operation in the Arab world.
Foreign affairs minister Laurent Fabius spent lots of time on the telephone Thursday trying to convince Miliband to soften his position and to make only reasonable demands of the Cameron government in the Commons. If London doesn’t go to Syria, Paris can go—or so Hollande says—but to intervene alone with Washington would be seen as the opposite of what’s happening in Britain: the French government making a fool of both its own Parliament and the United Nations. And if America intervenes unilaterally, Europe will once again appear powerless and spineless.
France should therefore take its time and find a legal basis for action. In other words, we must expand the consensus on a strike, propose a resolution to the U.N., and clearly show that it has made every effort to get it adopted. Experts who have been on missions to Syria must also very quickly appear before the Security Council to testify about what they’ve seen: Such testimony could be sufficient legal grounds. All this could take a week to 10 days.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2013/08/france_s_plan_of_attack_against_syria_should_fran_ois_hollande_join_barack.html
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Allawi: Iraq cannot prevent the transfer of Iranian weapons to Syria

Tuesday, 03 September 2013 09:03

Shafaq News / The leader of al- Iraqiya List coalition and former Prime Minister, Iyad Allawi said on Tuesday that Iraq can’t prevent Iran from transferring weapons to Syria

through the airspace to support the regime of President Bashar al-Assad in his war against the opposition.

“Iraq has sovereignty but it cannot prevent the transfer of Iranian weapons to Syria by air,” Allawi Tweeted on the social networking site “Twitter “briefed by “Shafaq News”.

Allawi called "the government to dialogue or resort to the United Nations”.

Iraq announced over recent months, inspecting Iranian planes on their way to Syria and said that the planes were devoid from any military equipment or weapons.

The Iraqi Foreign Minister, Hoshyar Zebari talked last July in an interview briefed by "Shafaq News”, that “he told Westerners that Iraq is unable to stop the transfer of weapons from Tehran to Damascus if this process exists.

Iraq led by Shiite - led has close ties with Iran, the main ally of the Syrian regime in Damascus, who faces an armed opposition to overthrew him from power.

The U.S. Secretary of State, John Kerry had said earlier, that the Iraqi airspace contribute in the remain of President Bashar al-Assad regime in power, noting for reporters that he had urged Prime Minister , Nuri al-Maliki to inspect Iranian planes coming to Syria through Iraqi airspace .
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Syria tensions rise as Israel test-fires missile defence system

Israel fired a missile on Tuesday to test a new defence system, triggering alerts across a region that is braced for impending international military strikes against Syria.

The Israeli defence ministry confirmed it had launched a Sparrow target missile at 9.15am local time. It said the test of the Arrow anti-missile system was successful.

The exercise was conducted jointly with the United States, according to Israel. However, a spokesman for the US navy European headquarters told Reuters: "No missiles were fired from US ships in the Mediterranean."

Russia sounded the alert, saying its radars at Armavir, near the Black Sea, had detected the launch of two ballistic "objects" in the area, fired from the central Mediterranean towards the east.

A Syrian source told Lebanese television that nothing had been detected by its early warning system.

The Israeli defence ministry said in a statement: "The experiment tested enhanced capabilities of a new type of target missile from the Sparrow series. Arrow anti-missile defence systems, including radars and a command and control system, were also tested."

It added: "The Sparrow missile successfully launched and performed its planned trajectory, in according with the test plan."

It was detected and tracked by the Arrow III missile defence system. "All the elements of the system performed according to their operational configuration."

Israel has redeployed most of its anti-missile systems to the north of the country over the past week amid fears that the Syrian regime could launch attacks on its neighbour – with whom it is still technically at war – following US strikes.

The US-funded missile defence systems are effective at intercepting rockets, but Israel acknowledges that it does not have sufficient capacity to protect the country in the face of a sustained onslaught from Syria or Lebanon.

On Tuesday the prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, repeated previous warnings against attacks on Israel. "The reality around us is changing. I want to say to anyone who wants to harm us, it is not advisable," he said. Israel has promised it will respond with force to any attack.

Last week Netanyahu authorised the call-up of a limited number of army reservists in the expectation that the US could launch strikes over the weekend. Thousands of Israelis flocked to distribution depots to collect gas masks.

However, since Barack Obama's announcement on Saturday that he would seek authorisation from Congress before initiating military action, the mood in Israel has calmed. Most military analysts say retaliatory action by the Syrian regime is unlikely, though possible.

The US is expected to take action against Syria after it said the regime crossed a "red line" drawn by Obama over the use of chemical weapons against civilians.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/03/syria-israel-missile-defence-system?CMP=twt_fd

Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Russia says detects two missile launches in Mediterranean

[13:20] 13/Sep/03

PNA - Russian radar has detected two ballistic "objects" fired towards the eastern Mediterranean from the central part of the sea, the country's defence ministry has reportedly said.

A Defence Ministry spokesman told Russian news agencies the launch was detected at 10:16 am Moscow time (0616 GMT) by an early warning radar station at Armavir, near the Black Sea, which is designed to detect missiles from Europe and Iran.

"The trajectory of these objects goes from the central part of the Mediterranean Sea toward the eastern part of the Mediterranean coast," Interfax news agency quoted the spokesman as saying.

The spokesman did not say who had carried out the launch and whether any impact had been detected, but RIA later quoted a source in Syria's "state structures" as saying the objects had fallen harmlessly into the sea.

The Russian Defence Ministry declined comment to Reuters.

The Russian Embassy in Syria said there were no signs of a missile attack or explosions in Damascus, state-run Itar-Tass reported.

Israel said it was unaware of any ballistic missile launch being conducted in the eastern Mediterranean.

"We are not aware, at this time, of such an event having occurred," a military spokeswoman in Jerusalem said.

Russia opposes any outside military intervention in the Syrian civil war, and a Defence Ministry official had earlier criticised the United States for deploying warships in the Mediterranean close to Syria.

The United States has been preparing for a possible military strike in Syria following what it says was a chemical weapons attack by Syrian government forces. Damascus denies carrying out such an attack.

- See more at: http://www.peyamner.com/English/PNAnews.aspx?ID=319737#sthash.2MHzM7du.dpuf
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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US Congress leaders back Obama on Syria

The House speaker and top Republican in Congress, John Boehner, said on Tuesday that he would support the president's motion for strikes against the regime of Bashar a-Assad for the alleged use of chemical weapons, and called on his party colleagues to support the president.

"We have enemies around the world that need to understand we are not going to tolerate this type of behavior," Boehner said.

His Republican colleague, house majority leader Eric Cantor, also supported Obama's call.

Meanwhile Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic Party's leader in the house, said she did not believe Congress would reject Obama's call, and that Assad's action was "behaviour outside the circle of civilised human behaviour and we must respond''.

She did however say that the public needed to hear more of the intelligence gathered against Assad.

The politicians' statements came after a meeting at the White House, where the president said he was confident of securing Congress support.

Obama called for a prompt vote by the Congress and reiterated that any US action would be limited in scope and not a repeat of Iraq or Afghanistan.

"What we are envisioning is something limited. It is something proportional. It will degrade Assad's capabilities," Obama said.

"At the same time we have a broader strategy that will allow us to upgrade the capabilities of the opposition," he said.

Obama said he was willing to address concerns among politicians about the motion to authorise the use of force that the White House sent to Congress. "I am confident that those concerns can be addressed," he added.

"I would not be going to Congress if I wasn't serious about consultations and believing that by shaping the authorisation to make sure we accomplish the mission, we will be more effective."

Asked whether he was confident Congress would vote in favour of a strike, Obama said: "I am."

Obama reiterated his "high confidence" that the Syrian government used chemical weapons against its people on August 21 in a Damascus suburb.

The president said that posed a serious national security threat to the United States and to the region.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2013/09/201393154941494433.html
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Democratic Understanding of the Americans and the West:
"Anyone who isn't the troll and cocksucker of the superduper overcivilized humanright defending Americans is a dictator or an evil person who needs to be bombed out".
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Senate committee authorizes limited military response in Syria

By Kasie Hunt and Erin McClam, NBC News
The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Wednesday voted to give President Barack Obama the power to a launch a military attack to punish Syria for using chemical weapons.
The vote was 10-7. It marked the first time in more than a decade — since a 2002 resolution that preceded the Iraq war — that members of Congress have voted to authorize military action.
The resolution, which could be voted on by the full Senate as early as next week, forbids Obama from using ground troops in Syria and allows the military response to last no longer than three months.
In Washington, Secretary of State John Kerry and other top administration officials went before the House Foreign Affairs Committee to confront skeptics and press the administration’s case. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel estimated the cost of a limited strike at tens of millions of dollars.
However, Kerry told the hearing that Arab League countries had offered to pay for the unseating President Bashar Assad if the United States took the lead militarily.
"Yes, that offer is on the table," Kerry said in response to a question from Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.).

The Senate yes votes comprised seven Democrats and three Republicans, including Sen. John McCain, who had expressed reservations that the United States was not doing enough to arm the rebels fighting Syrian leader Bashar Assad.
"We commend the Senate for moving swiftly and for working across party lines on behalf of our national security," read a statement from the White House. "We will continue to work with Congress to build on this bipartisan support for a military response that is narrowly tailored to enforce the prohibition on the use of chemical weapons, and sufficient to protect the national security interests of the United States of America."
Kerry told Congress that American inaction would “live in infamy,” and he drew analogies to black marks of history — the appeasement of Adolf Hitler before World War II and the U.S.’ refusal to accept a boat full of Jewish refugees from Germany in 1939.
“There are moments when you have to make a decision,” he said. “And I think this is one of those moments.”
He added: "A lot of people out in the Middle East count on us."
"They count on us to help them be able to transition," Kerry said.
Asked in Sweden whether he would strike Syria even if Congress does not authorize force, Obama said: “I believe that Congress will approve it.”
He added: “I do not believe that I was required to take this to Congress, but I did not take this to Congress just because it’s an empty exercise. I think it’s important to have Congress’ support on it.”
The president said he was mindful that memories of the Iraq war were fresh, particularly in Europe.
“Keep in mind I’m somebody who opposed the war in Iraq, and am not interested in repeating mistakes of us basing decisions on faulty intelligence,” he said. “But having done a thoroughgoing evaluation of the information that is currently available, I can say with high confidence that chemical weapons were used.”

Kerry: Inaction over Syria would 'live in infamy'

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry tells a House committee Wednesday that failure to act with military force in Syria would be a historic mistake.
At Wednesday’s House hearing, Rep. Steve Chabot, R-Ohio, expressed deep reservations and asked whether Obama would have “bothered to come to Congress” if the British Parliament had passed its own resolution supporting military force. Parliament rejected it instead.
“I believe he absolutely would have,” Kerry said.
In a tense exchange, Rep. Jeff Duncan, R-S.C., said he had recently spoken to a group of eighth-graders “who get it. They get it that we shouldn’t be drug into someone else’s civil war where there are no good guys.”
He praised Kerry for always showing caution with respect to the American armed forces, then asked him whether power was “so intoxicating” to the Obama administration that it couldn’t resist “pulling the trigger” on a conflict.
“I volunteered to fight for my country, and that wasn’t a cautious thing to do when I did it,” Kerry shot back. “I am not going to sit here and be told by you that I don’t have a sense of what the judgment is with respect to this.”
Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was asked about potential Syrian retaliation. Among the risks he mentioned were that Syria could use rockets to attack its neighbors or American facilities, could encourage surrogate groups to attack American interests or could stage a cyberattack.
Meanwhile, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, declined a meeting with a Russian delegation hoping to discuss possible U.S. military involvement in Syria, an aide to the speaker said Wednesday.
"The speaker has declined the Russian embassy's request that he meet with a delegation," Boehner spokesman Michael Steel confirmed to NBC News.
NBC News' Becky Bratu and Reuters contributed to this report.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/03/20306844-senate-committee-authorizes-limited-military-response-in-syria?lite
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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That does look like a scary map, considering Russians also have warships in the East Med region. I wonder how Russia would react to a military strike from the USA.
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And the Russian ones are in front of Syrian coast
biji kurd u kurdistan !!
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