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| ALAN | Jan 15 13, 7:12 Post #51 |
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The Sunni countries are growing restless with him and his serving to iran-syria. all of the money for assad's war is paid by maliki, US knows this too, but they need the oil flowing, however once assad is done which is gonna be this year all of that weapon and militias gonna come for sunni regions thus maliki will only be left with a shia region and cant reach and touch Kurdistan no more like most shia iraqis want right now. he is gonna be sorry that he upset the kurds cos once they come for him kurds will just watch like they came for saddam. its an iraqi thing to be cool and popular pick a fight with the kurds, well only this time our strong army stopped him in his sorry ass tracks. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Kinematik | Jan 15 13, 7:54 Post #52 |
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But will maliki step down pracefully or will it come to war? Dont they have to much to loose? Is that why they are planing to build a pipeline to Jordan, so that they still can sell oil if war breaks out and the route to Turkey is stopped? |
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| FeyliKurd | Jan 16 13, 6:16 Post #53 |
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Sunni lawmaker in Iraq killed by suicide bomber BAGHDAD – A suicide bomber assassinated a Sunni lawmaker in western Iraq on Tuesday, raising tensions in a part of the country that has been roiled by weeks of demonstrations. While it was unclear who carried out the attack, the killing is likely to further strain relations between the central government and minority Sunnis who have been demanding reforms to policies they believe unfairly target their sect. The governor of Anbar province, Qassim al-Fahdawi, said that lawmaker Ifan Saadoun was killed when a suicide bomber blew himself up in the restive city of Fallujah. The attack comes two days after a convoy carrying Iraq's Sunni finance minister, Rafia al-Issawi, was struck by a bomb as he traveled to the city. Al-Issawi hails from the same tribe and is from the same political bloc as the lawmaker. According to police and hospital officials, Saadoun was inspecting a project when his attacker approached and pretended that he was trying to shake hands, then blew himself up. Two of the lawmaker's bodyguards were killed as well, and four other people were wounded, officials said. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release details to journalists. The parliamentarian was part of the Sunni-backed Iraqiya bloc, which holds some posts in Iraq's loose power-sharing government but is at the same time the main force in opposition to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's administration. He was also one of the main key founders of Fallujah's branch of the Sahwa, a group of Sunni Arabs who joined forces with the U.S. military to fight al-Qaida at the height of Iraq's insurgency. Sahwa members have been frequent targets for Sunni insurgents, who consider them traitors. Anbar province, which is dominated by Iraq's Sunni minority, has been the scene of more than three weeks of protests against the Shiite-led government. They were sparked by the arrest of bodyguards assigned to Iraq's Sunni finance minister, the official whose convoy was struck Sunday. He escaped unharmed. Mohammed al-Khaldi, another member of parliament from the Iraqiya bloc, condemned the attack and demanded an investigation into how the security breach happened. "The situation in the country is tense, and this attack will complicate things here. A solution must be sorted out soon, and we demand that the government provide protection to the protesters in order to prevent further security breaches," he said. Mohammed Fathi, a spokesman for the Anbar provincial council, said officials have declared a three-day mourning period in the province. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/01/15/sunni-lawmaker-in-iraq-killed-by-suicide-bomber/ Edited by FeyliKurd, Jan 16 13, 6:16.
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From Erzingan to Îlam From Gire Spî to Agirî Kurdistan will be free | |
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| Kinematik | Jan 16 13, 6:43 Post #54 |
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Just sent a message to Alan with a link about this Crazy! First finance minister and now this What do they have in common? Maliki dosnt like them F Maliki! |
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| ALAN | Jan 16 13, 7:41 Post #55 |
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Blast Kills Iraqi Leader Who Helped Spur 'Awakening' An Iraqi tribal leader who played a prominent role in the U.S.-backed campaign against al Qaeda militants was killed Tuesday by a suicide bomber, heightening concerns that extremist groups in Iraq are being reinvigorated by the conflict in neighboring Syria. Aifan al-Issawi, a Sunni Arab from Iraq's Anbar province, was visiting a road-construction site near Fallujah, his hometown, when he was approached by a suicide bomber disguised as a laborer, said Jasim al-Halbousi, the head of Anbar's provincial council. The tribal chief was killed and several of his bodyguards were injured when the assailant detonated his charge, he said. "This was a terrorist act that was well planned," said Mr. Halbousi. "Sheik Aifan played a major role in fighting al Qaeda in Anbar and was tough on terror." There was no immediate claim of responsibility. Al Qaeda in Iraq, also known as the Islamic State of Iraq, has targeted those who cooperated with U.S. troops in the fight against it and other insurgent groups. The U.S. designated the group as a foreign terrorist organization shortly after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. Last month, the U.S. identified one of the main Islamist rebel groups fighting in Syria as a front for al Qaeda in Iraq. Mr. Issawi's apparent assassination represents a setback for Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's Shiite-led central government, which has been besieged for almost a month by demonstrations and sit-ins in Anbar and several other predominantly Sunni provinces demanding the release of prisoners, among other grievances. The slain sheik was among a group of influential and moderate Sunni figures willing to work with Mr. Maliki after his public rows with several Sunni politicians. Mr. Maliki on Tuesday described Mr. Issawi and another tribal leader who was assassinated in northern Iraq on Monday as "symbols of national unity that reject the conspiracies of the sectarians and plots of discord and division." Mr. Issawi and other tribal leaders in Anbar rallied their followers starting in 2006 to join the U.S. campaign against al Qaeda that later became known as the Sahwa, or Awakening. Mr. Issawi's Albu-Issa clan had been among the Sunni tribes that welcomed and sheltered foreign jihadists who flocked to Iraq starting in 2003 to fight what was largely seen by Sunnis as an occupation by infidel Americans. Sentiments shifted when many of the Iraqi tribesmen saw the fighters' brutal tactics firsthand. In interviews, Mr. Issawi had said his mother and several members of his extended family were killed in March 2007 when al Qaeda insurgents detonated a dump truck packed with explosives and chlorine gas canisters. Men including Mr. Issawi received arms and cash from the U.S. military to join the battle against al Qaeda in Iraq. He forged ties with the Americans, eventually hosting U.S. military commanders and diplomats for poolside barbecues at his farm house near Fallujah. In one living room at the house, Mr. Issawi—who U.S. troops nicknamed "Dark" for his skin tone—exhibited accolades from the U.S. military and photographs showing him with U.S. officials, including a photo taken with then-President George W. Bush during his 2007 visit to Anbar. The U.S. Embassy in Baghdad said Tuesday it "strongly condemns the murder" of Mr. Issawi, who was serving as a lawmaker from the Sunni-dominated Iraqiya parliamentary bloc. In an interview with The Wall Street Journal at the end of July, Mr. Issawi voiced concern that the nearly two-year conflict in Syria was being exploited by al Qaeda to regain momentum and strengthen its position on both sides of the border. "No doubt that the activity of al Qaeda in Syria plays a role in energizing al Qaeda in Iraq, the security situation in Anbar is connected to a great extent to what's happening in Syria and neighboring countries," he said. "Al Qaeda in Syria is the same al Qaeda in Iraq and Afghanistan." In a similar assessment, the U.S. government said in December that Jabhat al-Nusra, which has emerged as one of the most formidable fighting groups in Syria, was established in 2011 by al Qaeda in Iraq. The group has claimed dozens of suicide bombings and executions in Syria since its creation. The State Department says al Qaeda in Iraq has dispatched money, people and materiel from Iraq to Syria over the past year. Al Qaeda experts say veteran Syrian jihadists who fought in Iraq over the past decade make up the backbone of Jabhat al-Nusra. Both it and al Qaeda in Iraq have portrayed themselves as guardians of Sunnis in Iraq and Syria in the battle against Shiites and their allies. "The situation in Syria has rekindled sectarianism," Mr. Issawi said in July. "Al Qaeda is trying to ignite sectarian warfare." |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Kinematik | Jan 17 13, 1:13 Post #56 |
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Al-Jaafari sets his sights on al-Maliki’s throne 16/01/2013 By Sherzad Shekhani Hewlêr , Asharq Al-Awsat - The leader of the Shia National Iraqi Alliance, Ibrahim al-Jaafari, has recently taken steps with several Iraqi political forces and blocs in order to ease the stagnant political situation in Iraq. The country is going through a serious political crisis due to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki’s stances against the Kurds and the Sunnis. Al-Jaafari claimed he was attempting to persuade Iraqi leaders to sit down at the negotiating table to solve Iraq’s current problems, but some analysts believe that “al-Jaafari has undertaken this move in order to market himself as an alternative prime minister to al-Maliki, and that his recent meeting with Deputy Prime Minister Dr. Rowsch Nuri Shaways came within this framework”. Al-Jaafari met with Shaways yesterday, according to a statement issued by his office, and they discussed the current political situation in Iraq. During the meeting, al-Jaafari stressed the need for national unity and the need to address the outstanding issues between various political parties in the country. Media sources reported that al-Jaafari proposed the idea of holding a national meeting, at his home and under his auspices, in order to bring together the Iraqi parties and attempt to find satisfactory solutions to the country’s current political crisis. However, a number of key blocs, most notably the Iraqiya bloc and some Shiite parties, boycotted the meeting. This ultimately prevented al-Jaafari from achieving all his aims, one of which allegedly is to put himself forward as an alternative to al-Maliki, as some Iraqi political and media circles claim. However, a Kurdish leader stressed to Asharq Al-Awsat that “al-Jaafari will not be an acceptable alternative to al-Maliki, because they are of the same mold”. The Kurdish source, speaking on condition of anonymity, said in a statement to Asharq Al-Awsat that al-Jaafari “hopes to persuade the Kurdish leadership to accept him as an alternative to al-Maliki, but these leaders previously experienced his rule during the years 2005-2006. They witnessed his negative stances towards the Kurds first and foremost, and likewise towards the Sunnis, and sectarian discord was prevalent during his reign. Thus it would be hard to accept him as an alternative to al-Maliki”. The sourced added that “al-Jaafari and al-Maliki are working in the same vein; they both belong to the Shiite alliance, and given the country’s volatile political situation it is of no benefit to simply change positions between two members of the same alliance. During this crisis al-Jaafari has fallen under the influence of al-Maliki. He has lacked the power or strength to discourage al-Maliki from committing many fatal errors against other political parties, despite the fact that he [al-Jaafari] is head of the Shiite alliance. So we can see that his presence in a ruling position would not change anything”. Meanwhile, a source in the Kurdistan Alliance bloc pointed out that deep differences are prevalent today within the Shiite bloc. He claimed there is no longer something that can be called a “National Iraqi Alliance”, but rather there has been a return to what was formally called the “Coalition Provisional Authority” [the transitional government established after the ouster of Saddam Hussein], of which Ahmed Chalabi was a prominent leader. The source claims that neither the Sadrist trend nor the Islamic Supreme Council are in sync with the rest of the current national alliance, and their differences have emerged in public,. Therefore, he contended the most appropriate figure to lead the Shiite alliance in the future would be Dr. Ahmed Chalabi, who is considered among the rest of the Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds to be one of Iraq’s more moderate and respected political leaders. Shiite-Kurdish relations these days have reached an unprecedented low after al-Maliki’s recent confrontations with the Kurds in the disputed areas [between Iraq and Iraqi-Kurdistan]. These confrontations almost led to an open conflict between the Arabs and the Kurds there. However, despite the risk of military confrontation subsiding completely, the crisis is still ongoing. The origin of the problem still exists, represented in al-Maliki’s insistence in forming the Tigris Operations Command whilst the Kurdish leadership rejects any move that jeopardizes their control of the disputed areas, as a condition for them signing a normalization agreement with the Iraqi government. Brave man! Takes some balls for this! Hope he survives unti april Seems better than maliki? Dont you think? |
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| ALAN | Jan 17 13, 2:38 Post #57 |
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the face change wont and dont matter, the orders come straight from Tehran. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Kinematik | Jan 18 13, 12:16 Post #58 |
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Is Maliki going to outer space??? Iran will parade its ballistic rocket achievements by sending monkeys into space next month. Hamid Fazeli, head of the country’s space agency said Tuesday, Jan. 15 that the launch would be part of the celebrations leading up to the 34th anniversary of the Islamic Revolution on Feb. 10 and part of the program for putting humans in orbit in 2020. Five monkeys in a capsule named Pishgam (Pioneer) will be carried into orbit by a Kavoshgar rocket and orbit earth 120-130 kilometers in space, he said. Western space experts are dubious about Iran’s ability to send a capsule into orbit and expect the monkeys to come down to earth quite soon. This is not the first such attempt to be touted by Tehran. Last October, Iran acknowledged that an attempt to send a live monkey into space on August 1 was a failure. |
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| Kurdistano | Jan 18 13, 12:06 Post #59 |
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Malikis army is not well developed, it will be pretty easy game. |
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| ALAN | Jan 19 13, 3:00 Post #60 |
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Good news guys مالیکی فەرمانی کردوە سەرجەم چەکە قورسەکان بەرەو باشووری ئێراق بگوازرێنەوە لە ترسی گەیشتنە دەستی خۆپیشاندەران کە چاوەروان دەکرێت بەم نزیکاانە سوپای ئێراقی ئازاد بکەوێتە شەر لەگەل سوپای ئێراق و تا بەغداد ئازاد بکات و موقتەداش لە کۆکردنەوەی میلیشیاکانی سوپای مەهدیە بۆ پاریزگاری لە شیعە Translation: Maliki has ordered his militia to withdraw from Near Kirkuk and north of iraq south of Kurdistan border, to south of iraq, as he has got the news of Free iraqi army forming in the Sunni provinces who will go all the way to Baghdad, and Muqtada Sadr is also gathering his Mahdy army to protect the Shia people from slaughter. Afsarany Kurdistan |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Qandil | Jan 19 13, 3:07 Post #61 |
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All those Iraqi thugs living safe in Europe, thinks everything will be OK and there's unity between Shia and Sunni Arabs. Good news, by the way.
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| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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| Kinematik | Jan 19 13, 5:55 Post #62 |
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So standoff is over? Hope it dosnt get messy in iraq for the innocent
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| ALAN | Jan 19 13, 4:06 Post #63 |
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Stand off has been over long time ago but Maliki is withdrawing his heavy weapons to protect his Shia region , Iraq will be divided into three states there is no going back , Silly Talabani used to get in between them stop a civil war but now he is out of the game they are on their own with Iran and Saudi breathing down their necks for power and influence in Iraq |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Jan 19 13, 5:03 Post #64 |
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And I honestly don't care if civilian Iraqis die if you go on any Iraqi forum they never regret killing Kurds, we have Halabja and Anfal for the freedom and status we have what does Maliki gov have to be proud of fighting the Baathist regime? Nothing!. Since he was installed in his chair by US and without Hewlêr agreement he would be back in Syria polishing shoes. Maliki is a cheater since his followers, if there going to be election which now he will not let have since dictators don't do that otherwise he will be thrown to the gutter. and now Iran is keeping him in his post thus the guy is a total tool and joke, he is refused as a PM by most sunni arabs they have told him you are not my leader, so he is a leader for the shias only thus might as well start forming his shia region to stop the Sunni Arab world wrath fal on his head like it has fallen on poor Assad. Since iraqis don't regret killing our people I couldn't care less if they end up like another Syria in fact ill be happy this will be gods pay back for what they have done to my people and not having any remorse. Saddam and Sunnis did it yes but now Shia are following where he left off even many Shia members on Iraqi forum has said this and their politicians act the same chauvinist way towards Kurds as Saddamis did. So I really hope a civil war breaks out in Iraq which seems it has began already then it will be best chance to divorce Iraq and declare the long delayed Kurdish state with the Kurdish areas outside of KRG administration. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Jan 19 13, 5:13 Post #65 |
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Maliki and his followers proved to be unloyal and untrustworthy back stabbers. when Maliki ran away like a chicken in the 90s from saddam he ran to Kurdistan we shelters him and exported him to syria then when he returned to Iraq after US liberation he came to power without any struggle , Kurds helped him in his post for 2nd term what he does in return ? Formed dijla thugs and sent it to Kurdish areas outside of KRG well to their borders, Refuse to draft and oil n gas law who he still uses the baathie law and delayed implementing article 140 not cos he cared about the Sunnis but cos he wanted this issue to linger on between Kurds and Sunni Arabs so when Iraq becomes three states the Sunni will bee busy with Kurds over land which have always been Kurdish majority and was attached to Iraq in 1923 as wilyati Mosul (known as sharazoor Wilayat previously), we were not always majority for no reason in those areas according to all census held this is why not iraq is shitless scared to hold another fresh census cos they know kurds will beat them AGAIN, despite detaching 4 Kurdish majority districts from Kirkuk we are still majority in the province. you will hear most iraqi politicians rhetoric calling for the cut of the 17% budget we get from Iraq, the only way for this to stop is when Kurdistan divorces iraq with the Kurdish areas outside of KRG administration, but what amazes you is that they forget even if we become a state like Kuwait we will seek our rightful compensation for the Anfal campaign which cost 110,000 innocent lives, and Halabja gas attack. it might not be 17% but it will not be that far from it. Germany is still paying the jews for what their Hitler did to them, iraq is still paying Kuwait and still owns billion of dollars, and we have not even started seeking this compensation in an international court once time is right Kurdistan government will launch this law suit. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Jan 19 13, 6:41 Post #66 |
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Religious Marjaa calls Anbar protesters not to listen to the "clowns"![]() Saturday, 19 January 2013 10:06 Shafaq News / The religious Marjaa, Muhammad Taqi al-Mudarisi called on Saturday, Anbar demonstrators not to listen to what he called as some "clowns" , describing the current events in the country's western regions as an "alarm bell". The religious Marjaa Mohammad Taqi al-Mudarisi said according to a source in his office in an interview with "Shafaq News" that "we must be cautious from the presence of groups and regional and international plans to strike and tear the peoples and Islamic movements’ unity that are active in the region which are demanding for change and reform." He called "the executive and legislative authorities, blocs and politicians in Iraq to address the crises and problems including those associated to the administrative and financial corruption and work to provide services to the people and to listen to their complaints and aspirations." Al-Mudarisi warned "the executive and legislative power not to underestimate the people, their awareness, abilities and rights and not to think about them in closed rooms." It is worth mentioning that thousands of Iraqis continue to demonstrate and sit-in in all of Anbar, Salahuddin and Mosul since three weeks ago, as a rejection of the policies of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, after they accused him of "marginalization" of Sunnis and the failure to meet their demands to release of detainees in prisons. The protesters also demand to cancel Article 4 of the Anti-Terrorism Act and accountability and justice law. Baghdad as well as many of the central and southern provinces have also witnessed demonstrations in support of Prime Minister, Nuri al-Maliki, condemning the claims filed by the demonstrators in the western and northern provinces. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Jan 19 13, 6:43 Post #67 |
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you might be too late, the liberation of iraq has been planned by FSA and Qatar if not all of iraq but Half of Baghdad, Mousl (except kurdish districts), Salahaden, Anbar, Diyala(except Khanaqin) and most probably Arabic Kirkuk (Hawija) will become a Sunni strong hold region similar to KRG. it is the only likely and wise for the Sunnis to get some power back to themselves, they cant get Kurdistan again they cant run iraqi including south who are shia majority the only chance is to create another KRG look alike for themselves in where they form majority. they will have a rich region too imo, maybe not as rich as south region but it will good enough for them. Kirkuk Baba field will most probably be given to them by KRG as it stretches to Hawija district, the rest of the field (Avana and Khurmala) will be under kurdish control. the Sunnis can not afford to have two enemies one from south and one from the north and since KRG does have good relations with the gulf states we will be spared of any violence from a future Sunni mini state. there is no other way out for iraq, they have come to that point they are accepting Joe bidens project. if only they listened back then now the Sunni region would have been well advanced in every aspect as well, the shia region is not too bad as most of the money they spend on projects in their cities anyway, good for them. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Deleted User | Jan 19 13, 10:24 Post #68 |
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Most of the Kurds in Mandali are Shia, so that is unlikely it will ever be a Sunni stronghold. If the KRG do not incoporate Mandali into it, then what is the point. There are atleast 30,000 Kurds living there, from there they are mostly from the Arkuwazi tribe. Pretty much no different from how Ilamis speak. Anyway my point is if your family were there, you would not want it to be apart of Iraq. |
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| ALAN | Jan 19 13, 10:51 Post #69 |
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JJ Mandali will not be annexed its isolated from main land which makes it impossible to annex. Hell KRG doesn't even control Sadyia which is part of mainland!! They made a mistake in 2005 withdrawing and I don't think KRG will go to war over them as Iraqi militias are there. Kirkuk is different as Pêshmerga has always been there since 91 and most of them were local kirkukis who fought for their city till 2003 then peshmerga poured in and now they control 2/3 of Kirkuk. If my family was there I will tell them to RUN. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Deleted User | Jan 19 13, 11:33 Post #70 |
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Heval how can you say Mandali is isolated? You know Mandali borders Ilam, there are Mandali familes who have families both in Ilam and in Khanaqin. I when Ilam is liberated we will ourselves re-claim those lands. Mandali was apart of the Lurestan Kurdish principal state for 800 years atleast. |
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| ALAN | Jan 20 13, 2:18 Post #71 |
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i have posted a reply here heval jj gyan http://kurdistanskyscrapers.com/topic/8313471/3/#new |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Kinematik | Jan 20 13, 11:11 Post #72 |
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EP report on Iraq: Al-Maliki may either give in to protestors demand or resign Saturday, 19 January 2013 22:25 NCRI – Mr. Struan Stevenson, the president of the European Parliament Delegation for Relations with Iraq published a report on the political crisis and civil uprisings happening in that country. The report published on January 12, 2013, concludes that: 1- Most political commentators have concluded that the current uprising has provided an unprecedented tipping point for toleration of the Maliki government. 2. Iraqiya and other factions that previously participated in the government now know that any sign of reconciliation with Maliki will bring about public outrage against them. 3. Contrary to last year’s uprising, this time the concentration of the demonstrations mostly in Sunni provinces, supported by parts of the government on one hand and a disinclination of the US to get involved on the other, leaves al-Maliki’s hands effectively tied. With the first signs of repressive reaction and violence to quell the riots, Iraqiya will have no choice but to pull out of the government and Parliament. This will significantly increase the public outrage against al-Maliki. 4. Al-Maliki only has two paths which he can follow, either to give concession in order to calm the crisis, which will lead to his resignation and free elections, or resorting to force, which will radicalise and spread the demonstrations and could sow the seeds of a revolution. Neither choice is attractive for the Iraqi Prime Minister. |
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| ALAN | Jan 21 13, 4:57 Post #73 |
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Presidency of the South Kurdistan: the emphasis on full support to the demands of the demonstrators Iraqi provinces Kurdistan Region President Massoud Barzani issued a statement about the repercussions of the current crisis and correct the course of the political process, and came: that Iraq is going through a long crisis which led to large reactions express resentment of the Iraqi people with all its components and its scholars and its parties and its organizations. At the time it was the duty of the federal government to take the initiative to deal rationally in order to find solutions, the government worked to exacerbate the crisis by marginalization and the threat of exclusion and that led to serious complications may lead to serious consequences. Barzani said: We affirm our full support to the legitimate demands of the demonstrators and that are compatible with the Constitution, stressing the need to preserve the peaceful protests and not to resort to violence. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Kinematik | Jan 27 13, 1:38 Post #74 |
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Good! Who do you think will replace maliki? |
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| Kinematik | Jan 27 13, 1:45 Post #75 |
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Ok What happend to that thing where maliki is forced to be questioned by the parlament? They got enough signatures i read What elaction is now in april? Not parlament? Edited by Kinematik, Jan 27 13, 1:46.
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