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Hayder-Kurdistani
Dec 3 13, 6:27
all this civil war and the reason for the displacement of more than 3 million Syrian out of Syria is Assad he could've stepped down and prevented his country from this bloody mess
If this dictator stay in power that will be the most disgusting thing and a big crime the world also take responsibility for his Hulagu of the 21st century
Yes and if Assad goes your going to have another Saudi Arabian Wahhabi state. This isn't some romantic film where it's the heroic rebels fight off the evil tyrant.
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jjmuneer
Dec 3 13, 7:00
Hayder-Kurdistani
Dec 3 13, 6:27
all this civil war and the reason for the displacement of more than 3 million Syrian out of Syria is Assad he could've stepped down and prevented his country from this bloody mess
If this dictator stay in power that will be the most disgusting thing and a big crime the world also take responsibility for his Hulagu of the 21st century
Yes and if Assad goes your going to have another Saudi Arabian Wahhabi state. This isn't some romantic film where it's the heroic rebels fight off the evil tyrant.
You gonna personalize matters here JJ but no I'm not going to Wahhabi Saudi Arabia neither to Persian shitte state if I ever go back i'll go to my country.
The majority of the people in Syria are opposing this dictator regime and if they are going to have a extremist state then fine it's their country but as someone who lived in Syria and know what Syrians look like they are secular by nature and these thugs Islamist you see Assad brought in order to convince the world that his fighting terrorism and not his people and they are the reason why west don't support Syrians and the war dragging on
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You gonna personalize matters here JJ but no I'm not going to Wahhabi Saudi Arabia neither to Persian shitte state if I ever go back i'll go to my country.

I never said you personally, I said if the FSA come to power that is what will be implemented. You even have Wahhabi shiekhs encouraging Erdogan to fund the FSA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEiq3LD6jjE

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The majority of the people in Syria are opposing this dictator regime

Yet all minorities with the exception of Kurds are openly supporting Assad.

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if they are going to have a extremist state then fine it's their country

So where is the dispute bewteen you and I exactly?

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but as someone who lived in Syria and know what Syrians look like they are secular by nature

Then they would support Assad if they were secular by nature not the FSA. Since the FSA have never stated they wish to implement secularism, but Sunni Islamism.

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these thugs Islamist you see Assad brought in order to convince the world that his fighting terrorism

So he really Islamist held areas are areas are controlled by Assad? And Wahhabis who support these groups are basically sending in arms to Assad? That makes no sense whatsoever.

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You gonna personalize matters here JJ but no I'm not going to Wahhabi Saudi Arabia neither to Persian shitte state if I ever go back i'll go to my country.

I never said you personally, I said if the FSA come to power that is what will be implemented. You even have Wahhabi shiekhs encouraging Erdogan to fund the FSA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEiq3LD6jjE

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The majority of the people in Syria are opposing this dictator regime

Yet all minorities with the exception of Kurds are openly supporting Assad.

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if they are going to have a extremist state then fine it's their country

So where is the dispute bewteen you and I exactly?

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but as someone who lived in Syria and know what Syrians look like they are secular by nature

Then they would support Assad if they were secular by nature not the FSA. Since the FSA have never stated they wish to implement secularism, but Sunni Islamism.

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these thugs Islamist you see Assad brought in order to convince the world that his fighting terrorism

So he really Islamist held areas are areas are controlled by Assad? And Wahhabis who support these groups are basically sending in arms to Assad? That makes no sense whatsoever.

So what if Arour asks for Erdogan help, Assad is bringing Iran and the Iraqi mercenaries who always acused him of sending terroists to Iraq and now they support him that's other than the Yemini's and Pakistani shittes who come to Syria and kill Syrians in their country to "defend the holy shrine of Zainab".
When I said ISIS and Al Nusra it's not the Syrians problem it's the west who was late to help the moderate ones and made the Syrians stuck in between either supporting these extremist or going back to this regime and his shabiha.
and the minorities who support Assad is because he always scares them of evil Sunni's and that the Sunni majority will treat them like slaves if they get in power. In my opinion if the rebels win the war there will be chance for Syrian people to kick extremist ass at some point and there will be a chance of democracy but if Assad win the good old days of tyranny and discrimination will be back and Rojava will be crushed and he will treat the Kurds like he and his father always did treated them as (Aliens).
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Dec 3 13, 8:47
jjmuneer
Dec 3 13, 8:12

Quoting limited to 2 levels deephttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEiq3LD6jjE
So what if Arour asks for Erdogan help, Assad is bringing Iran and the Iraqi mercenaries who always acused him of sending terroists to Iraq and now they support him that's other than the Yemini's and Pakistani shittes who come to Syria and kill Syrians in their country to "defend the holy shrine of Zainab".
When I said ISIS and Al Nusra it's not the Syrians problem it's the west who was late to help the moderate ones and made the Syrians stuck in between either supporting these extremist or going back to this regime and his shabiha.
and the minorities who support Assad is because he always scares them of evil Sunni's and that the Sunni majority will treat them like slaves if they get in power. In my opinion if the rebels win the war there will be chance for Syrian people to kick extremist ass at some point and there will be a chance of democracy but if Assad win the good old days of tyranny and discrimination will be back and Rojava will be crushed and he will treat the Kurds like he and his father always did treated them as (Aliens).
What you say doesn't make sense. You claimed:
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these thugs Islamist you see Assad brought in order to convince the world that his fighting terrorism

Now you are saying so what if Saudis support them? How could Assad of "bought them" if Saudis fund these groups?

You don't get it. If the FSA wins they will turn on Kurds, if Assad wins they will also turn on Kurds. It's better we just wait for Assad to start winning since it will balance the power.

How is the shrine of Zainab theres? Doesn't it also belongs to sunnis? See this is what I don't get about this mentality. Can I ask do you even know who Zainab is? haha
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jjmuneer
Dec 3 13, 9:04
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Dec 3 13, 8:47

Quoting limited to 2 levels deephttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEiq3LD6jjE
What you say doesn't make sense. You claimed:
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these thugs Islamist you see Assad brought in order to convince the world that his fighting terrorism

Now you are saying so what if Saudis support them? How could Assad of "bought them" if Saudis fund these groups?

You don't get it. If the FSA wins they will turn on Kurds, if Assad wins they will also turn on Kurds. It's better we just wait for Assad to start winning since it will balance the power.

How is the shrine of Zainab theres? Doesn't it also belongs to sunnis? See this is what I don't get about this mentality. Can I ask do you even know who Zainab is? haha
lol JJ
Zainab is the daughter of Imam Ali did you seriously not know it xD
yea Sunnies and Syrians also like her and it belong to them also when I was in Syria I visited that also multiple times but now Iraqis came and they claim that Sunni's are going to destroy her shrine and they should protect it
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Dec 3 13, 9:12
jjmuneer
Dec 3 13, 9:04

Quoting limited to 2 levels deephttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEiq3LD6jjE
lol JJ
Zainab is the daughter of Imam Ali did you seriously not know it xD
yea Sunnies and Syrians also like her and it belong to them also when I was in Syria I visited that also multiple times but now Iraqis came and they claim that Sunni's are going to destroy her shrine and they should protect it
) (I meant Fatima lol)So regardless of whatever Alawites claim it's not the case. I'm not saying the FSA will attack any Shrines, but groups like Al-Nusra or ISIS will. The Saudis have done so in the past:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_early_Islamic_heritage_sites_in_Saudi_Arabia


And frankly the so called "Iraqis" fighting for Assad seem to be Maliki sponsered people. People are just trying to turn this into a secterian war for their own gains. Assad isn't even religious. It reminds me of Saddam in his later years using Islam for his political causes.

Lets just agree Assad is bad for Kurds. The FSA are equally bad.

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Luckily however Al Nusra and ISIS don't operate in Damascus and it's Reef that's the field of Arour supported "Army of Islam" and newly formed "Islamic front"
but yea the longer the war takes the better for us Kurds obviously but at the end of it if Assad wins his 1 man with government while the rebels are divided and if they win the war it will be mess in Syria for some time a time we can use and strengthen our Rojava
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The rebel entered the town of Maloula once again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jELdZrHihog
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jj majority Syrian are Sunnis if they want ISIS to rule them who are we to oppose it!? WK is established the rest I don't care who rules it but majority are sunni not shia, these Sunnis won't stop fighting till Assad is gone/weakened even if it takes 10 years, and in the end sunni shia Kurd state will come about... Or some federal system all 3 will be forced to accept... jj you can't take sides here between Nusra/ISIS vs Assad if you do then you are been shia not a kurd... You know our stance on ISIS and Nusra Assad is no better just cos he is shia!? I urged you before not to take sides between them jj on here as you know we are not here to defend sunni or shia we are here bcos we care about KURDISTAN only...
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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There are barely any Shias in Syria it will be kurd, Sunni, and alevi state
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theres more shia in Syria than the kurds. the alawites are a branch of shia islam
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Iraqi politician Ahmed Chalabi says South Kurdistan President Masoud Barzani can be a good president to Iraq, London based al Hayat reports.

https://www.facebook.com/RudawEnglish/posts/523331474441427
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Dec 6 13, 6:06
jj majority Syrian are Sunnis if they want ISIS to rule them who are we to oppose it!? WK is established the rest I don't care who rules it but majority are sunni not shia, these Sunnis won't stop fighting till Assad is gone/weakened even if it takes 10 years, and in the end sunni shia Kurd state will come about... Or some federal system all 3 will be forced to accept... jj you can't take sides here between Nusra/ISIS vs Assad if you do then you are been shia not a kurd... You know our stance on ISIS and Nusra Assad is no better just cos he is shia!? I urged you before not to take sides between them jj on here as you know we are not here to defend sunni or shia we are here bcos we care about KURDISTAN only...
I'm not looking at it emotionally like you. I'm looking at it rationally and logically. The minority are the Alawites, therefore we are in a better position if the Alawites survive.

Now how is analysing a situation "taking sides"? haha

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The Syrian army supported by his Iraqi's and Hezbollah entered Al-Nabk today and a masscare against women and children by the Iraqi Dhu Al Fiqar brigade

Edited by Hayder-Kurdistani, Dec 9 13, 8:25.
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Syria conflict: Foreign jihadists 'use Turkey safe houses'

Foreign jihadist fighters are using safe houses in southern Turkey to cross into Syria to fight against government forces, the BBC has learnt.

A man running one such house near the border town of Reyhanli said more than 150 people - including up to 20 Britons - had used it in the past three months.

The route through Turkey used by al-Qaeda-linked foreign jihadists is now becoming increasingly organised.

Opposition activists say jihadists are destroying the Syrian revolution.

'Not true Muslims'

The man in charge of the safe house near Reyhanli told the BBC's Richard Galpin that "more than 150 people stayed at the house" in the past 90 days.

"Between 15 and 20 were British. It's all done through invitations from friends".

He added that jihadists usually "stay for a day or two before crossing into Syria and stay on the way back when they are waiting for flights back to their home countries".

One such fighter from France told our correspondent that "there are thousands of us, literally from every corner of the world".

"And we are all al-Qaeda," he added.

The jihadist, a former student in France, said he had joined a brigade which had 8,000 men.

He added that the brigade had recently pledged allegiance to the radical Islamist organisations called the Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria

Over the past year, thousands of foreign fighters - including about 300 British nationals - have poured into Syria to fight President Bashar al-Assad's forces.

But Syria's original armed opposition say the jihadists are not just fighting the regime but are also systematically targeting Free Syrian Army fighters.

A former FSA commander said he had to flee to Turkey after his unit had been captured by jihadists.

"They told us we were not true Muslims," the commander said.

"I saw how they beat my friends with iron bars, smashed their faces with ammunition boxes and then killed them. The floor was covered with blood.

"We made the revolution for freedom and equality but the jihadists don't want this. They've come to destroy Syria."

The commander added that he was one of the few men from the unit to survive.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25274886
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Dec 9 13, 8:23
The Syrian army supported by his Iraqi's and Hezbollah entered Al-Nabk today and a masscare against women and children by the Iraqi Dhu Al Fiqar brigade

Fking coward murderers.
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Arour and Saudi supported Army of Islam is the reason for this masscare because they cowardly retreated once again
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Poor kids! This picture is horrifing.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_qXJaFQmZY
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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One of Hezbollah commanders in Qalamoun known as Ali Bzi has been killed today
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i supported the uprising at 1st before it was hijacked by ISIS and Nusra bcos it was what majority wanted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LXDjFNzo28
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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I still think the majority still want this war to end with the rebels winning
no way that they will accept the dictator not after all these people who died because of him wanting to stay in power
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Some of the victims of Al-Nabk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Ra4BkZWvM
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Yeah i guess, but no matter what Syria will be divided, Iran wont let go of its mercenary assad, Gulf wont give up on FSA and sunni iraqis wont give up on Nusra and co... and finally Qandil wont let go of WK at what ever cost... its in our interest the fighting goes on
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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