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| ALAN | Jun 21 14, 11:36 Post #1326 |
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Its a shia militia march!!??? |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Deleted User | Jun 21 14, 11:51 Post #1327 |
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I think he meant this vid; http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27952465 |
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| ALAN | Jun 21 14, 11:53 Post #1328 |
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Oh thats already been posted in Peshmerga topic... |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| jjmuneer | Jun 22 14, 12:50 Post #1329 |
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Yeh, not sure why another clip came up. |
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| Zagros | Jun 22 14, 4:31 Post #1330 |
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Shi'ite Turkmen villagers near Baghdad flee to Kurdish-controlled areas As ISIL Sunni radicals bring the fight for Iraq closer and closer to Baghdad, Shi'ite Turkmen villagers flee to northern areas controlled by the Kurds. NATS HIGHWAY On this wind-swept highway north of Baghdad, Iraqi families are making their escape. They're from a Turkmen Shi'ite village. They're fleeing violent clashes between radical Sunni militants and government forces for control of their village. All their worldly goods, piled onto the back of a truck. They'll make their way to a nearby town called Tuz Khurmato, controlled by Kurdish forces. (SOUNDBITE) (Arabic) UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN FLEEING FROM AMERLY DISTRICT HEADING TO TUZ KHURMATO, SAYING: "We left the village to go to Tuz Khurmato out of fear for the safety of our families and children." (SOUNDBITE) (Arabic) UNIDENTIFIED MAN FROM ALBU HASSAN VILLAGE, AMERLY DISTRICT, SAYING: "We were forced to leave the district because of the clashes between the army and the militants. We are afraid for the safety of our families." NATS FIGHTING With stunning speed, Sunni Islamist insurgents called I-S-I-L, an offshoot of al Qaeda, have captured large tracts of territory in northern, and now, central Iraq. The fighting has allowed autonomous Kurds in the northeast to expand their zone of control. In the west, the Sunni radicals have taken ground. Iraq is being divided along sectarian lines. NATS HIGHWAY The U.N. says it's expanding aid to a MILLION people driven from their homes by the fighting. Many families, say the U.N. are living in the open, in urgent need of food, water, shelter and latrines. These luckier ones are off to Tuz Khurmato. But there's no guarantee the fighting won't follow them. The village lies in territory that the federal government and the autonomous Kurdistan Confederation claim as their own. Watch the video: http://uk.reuters.com/video/2014/06/21/shiite-turkmen-villagers-near-baghdad-fl?rpc=401&videoId=316497544&feedType=VideoRSS&feedName=TopNews&rpc=401&videoChannel=1 Edited by Zagros, Jun 22 14, 4:32.
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| Zagros | Jun 22 14, 5:32 Post #1331 |
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Latest Developments in Iraq and South Kurdistan ANF - NEWS DESK 21.06.2014 13:47:22 Violent clashes broke out in Jalawla between the peshmerga forces affiliated to YNK and ISIS gangs, leading to heavy losses of ISIS in Tecnid and Wihde regions. The peshmerga forces launched an artillery attack against the gangs, forcing them to withdraw. According to information from the PUK press, peshmerga forces control 95 per cent of Jalawla. Violent clashes also erupted between the peshmerga forces and the ISIS around Kirkuk and Tuz Khurmatu in South Kurdistan. In the meantime, in clashes in Tal Afar, the head of the ISIS forces in Tal Afar, Husen Quce, was reportedly killed. Iraqi forces launched a bombardment of ISIS controlled areas in Tal Afar as well as in Tikrit and its surroundings. Releasing the images of the operation, Iraqi army reported that many camps and vehicles belonging to ISIS were hit, killing 65 ISIS members. Additionally, the Iraqi army has reportedly regained control of the town of Daluiye and Baiji, where the biggest oil refinery of the country is located, from the ISIS gangs. Meanwhile 6 ISIS members, including two high ranking officials of ISIS, were captured in Sinjar by the peshmerga forces. In the Dicle district of Tikrit, the bodies of 5 people executed by ISIS were reportedly found. The gangs also plundered houses belonging to Christians in Mosul and burned all the churches of the city. The Israeli newspaper Hareetz has alleged that the ISIS gangs captured the chemical weapons plant in Al-Mutana. The chemical plant is said to be from the period of the rule of Saddam Hussein. While the Shia tribes are getting armed against the gangs, the Iraqi government has called on the people to fight voluntarily against the ISIS in their own regions, adding that the government will provide material support. In another development, Iraq’s Foreign Minister, Hosyar Zebari, speaking to Hura tv channel, said it was not only the government that was responsible for the political crisis and the attacks in Iraq, adding that stability in Gulf countries depends on Iraq and called on all forces to react against the attacks on Iraq. In another development, Qubad Talabani, the son of the Iraqi President, Jalal Talabani, said the US must support the Kurds. Another important statement came from the US president Barack Obama, saying that Iran can play a constructive role in the crisis in Iraq, while the Australian government announced that it is sending special forces to Iraq to protect its embassy there. http://en.firatajans.com/news/news/latest-developments-in-iraq-and-south-kurdistan.htm |
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| Zagros | Jun 22 14, 5:37 Post #1332 |
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Signs of strain in militant ranks as ISIL alienates allies Hugh Naylor June 21, 2014 NINEVEH PROVINCE // The alliance of Islamist militants, Sunni tribesmen and loyalists of Iraq’s former Baathist regime that seized large areas of the country in the past two weeks is under serious strain over ideological differences, according to local officials, Kurdish intelligence and analysts. The first signs of a split emerged on Saturday, with reports of fighting between the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and the Naqshbandi Army, formed by officers from the former dictator Saddam Hussein’s military, that left 17 people dead. The fighting in Hawija, in Kirkuk province, on Friday was sparked by the refusal of Naqshbandi fighters to give up their weapons and pledge allegiance to ISIL, a security official said. However, witnesses said the two sides clashed over who would take control of fuel tankers in the area. So far, the partnership between ISIL and elements of Iraq’s Sunni population has met with stunning success, with Iraq’s United States-funded and trained military disintegrating before their advance. The insurgents seized the northern city of Mosul on June 10, followed quickly by further gains, including Saddam’s hometown of Tikrit, to arrive within 60 kilometres of Baghdad. The offensive has been led by ISIL, an Al Qaeda offshoot comprising foreign and local fighters that is known to be ruthless in combat and in enforcing the austere form of Islam it espouses, but is widely believed to have received backing and logistical support from sympathetic Sunni tribesmen and former members of Saddam’s now outlawed Baath party. The Sunni-dominated Baathists have family and cultural ties in most of the areas between Mosul and Baghdad that the insurgents have captured so far. Their leaders, including the former dictator’s deputy, Izzat Ibrahim Al Douri, share ISIL’s hostility towards Shiites and the government of prime minister Nouri Al Maliki. Sunnis have long chafed against what they consider to be the premier’s pro-Shiite agenda. “There are two dimensions here: there is the mutual dislike for Shiites and then there is the mutual dislike for the Maliki government in Baghdad,” said Hazar Salim, an independent political analyst who lives in Erbil, the capital of South Kurdistan. “That has brought them together.” But this coalition of convenience appears to agree on little else. ISIL’s strict enforcement of its religious convictions, such as the destruction of tombs and other cultural symbols in Mosul, has raised misgiving among other members. This friction may be compounded by public frustration over power outages and fuel shortages in captured territory. “We’re expecting them to fight,” said Bashar Mahmoud, who headed the provincial council in the northern city of Mosul before it was overrun. Mr Mahmoud said leaders from the groups met two days after Mosul’s capture to decide on a new governor, but failed to agree on a candidate. “They couldn’t agree because they’re too different. Yes, they are Sunnis and they came together because of common interests against the Maliki government. But ISIL wants total Islamic rule, while the others want what they call Islamic rule with a secular flavour,” said Mr Mahmoud, who maintains contact with Mosul residents from a nearby village protected by Kurdish forces where he and other local politicians fled. Elsewhere, too, ISIL’s tough measures have begun alienating those who initially did not oppose their military campaign. The tribal areas of Kirkuk province, where ISIL has a strong presence, are starting to resent the group’s behaviour, said Mohammed Mohammed, who runs the Arab affairs division of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan office in Kirkuk city. ISIL has killed youths from the tribes for unspecified reasons and demanded that residents repent for their sins, angering leaders of the two main tribal confederations in the area, said Mr Mohammed, whose office is in regular contact with residents there. When ISIL first came to those areas, they seemed to be trying to reach out the local population. But then they started killing members of these tribes and that has infuriated their leaders,” he said. Mr Mohammed said he met a tribal elder from Kirkuk last week who spoke about a backlash brewing against ISIL. “He was enraged and said there could be clashes,” he said. Now it appears ISIL may also be alienating the Naqshbandi Army, which has played a large part in its success. Officials, intelligence officers and analysts interviewed for this article said Saddam’s former deputy, Mr Al Douri, plays a key role in the force, also known by its Arabic acronym JRTN. Mr Al Douri became famous as the king of clubs in the deck of cards of wanted Saddam officials compiled by the US after its 2003 invasion of Iraq that deposed Saddam. American and Iraqi officials say he played a key role in a Sunni-led insurgency that followed the invasion. The Naqshbandi Army, formed in 2007, has a strong presence in Mosul as well as other areas taken during the ISIL-led offensive, consists of former Baathist officials who follow a strand of Sufi Islam. Mr Douri’s influence in the Naqshbandi Army and among many Sunnis may have been important in terms of increasing its popularity by fusing religious elements with the largely secular Baathist ideology, analysts say. Mr Al Douri himself is a follower of the Sufi order, said Hoshang Waziri, a political analyst in Erbil. He said Mr Al Douri used to attend a mosque in the city that was linked to the Sufi order. “I remember seeing him here when I was seven. He’s a religious man.” For years after the US invasion, Mr Al Douri and other Baathists, were given refuge and support by the regime of Syrian president Bashar Al Assad, which supported Sunni fighters against the US occupation. Mr Al Douri’s exact whereabouts during that time are not known, although he is believed to have spent time between Syria and locations near Mosul. After the uprising against Damascus that began in 2011, the Baathists appear to have begun working with Mr Al Assad’s opponents, hoping to capitalise on the momentum of militant groups such as ISIL that were fighting both in Syria and Iraq. Mosul officials say Baathists coordinated a large convoy of pickups from ISIL-controlled territory across the border in Syria to that militant-held areas near the city, days before it was captured. The tip was relayed by an informant to a bodyguard of Khalaf Al Hadidi, a Nineveh provincial council member who was in Mosul when it fell. “One of my security detail is cousin of an old Baathist officer who’s operating in Syria,” Mr Al Hadidi said. “It’s clear the Baathists were heavily involved in this attack.” He and other politicians who fled the city have for years suspected the Naqshbandis of fanning protests and violence in Mosul. But the governor in Nineveh, Atheel Nujeifi, said it was only a matter of time before the Baathists and ISIL turned on each other in Mosul. “The Naqshbandis and [ISIL] will clash,” he said. “Everyone there thinks they control the city.” http://www.thenational.ae/world/iraq/signs-of-strain-in-militant-ranks-as-isil-alienates-allies?#page1 |
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| Brendar | Jun 22 14, 11:20 Post #1333 |
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Greatest iraqi invention (2014) - This is how the iraqi government fools their people
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| ALAN | Jun 22 14, 12:33 Post #1334 |
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We must not allow turkmen into SK shia or sunni they can go to their country which is turkmanistan or they could go to turkey... If we keep taking turkmen and all arabs of Iraq then Kurds will become minority on it's own soil.. are KRG officials blind! |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Jun 22 14, 12:34 Post #1335 |
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they are following their masters in Iran like sending monkey to space and building fighter jets
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| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Jun 22 14, 4:27 Post #1336 |
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Former Deputy of Saddam Hussein threatens Maliki with execution![]() 21.06.2014 Nuwar Faqie Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has replaced members of his personal security after he received a text message from the Vice President of deposed Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, Izaat al-Douri. Douri allegedly sent the prime minister a threatening text message in which he promises Maliki to execute him before the end of Ramadan. In the message Douri advises Maliki to wear a military uniform without military epaulets so that he will be hung rather than shot, as is custom in Iraqi Army. Many retain the failure to arrest Douri despite his visits to Baghdad as a great threat to Maliki and security agencies in Iraq. Furthermore, some Iraqi local media alleged that Douri was seen in Mosul last week, during ISIS attack on Iraqi Army to take over the city. http://basnews.com/en/News/Details/Former-Deputy-of-Saddam-Hussein-threatens-Maliki-with-execution/24141 |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Jun 22 14, 4:28 Post #1337 |
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You both deserve to be hanged. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| kurdishpatriot | Jun 22 14, 8:06 Post #1338 |
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guys take a look at this guy... Seriously he dont knows anything about Iraq or the sunni/shia tensions for sure. He is a conspiracy maker just like the ones of the illuminati just insane... he is like brainwashing the people that are to stupid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR65wj2QyAs |
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#PROMOTEWOMENRIGHTS "shengal bo ezdi ya", Ezidi namerin, HATA ARAB NAMAYEN NEK SHENGAL! "A society can never be free without women's liberation" - Abdullah Ocalan | |
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| ALAN | Jun 22 14, 8:21 Post #1339 |
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It's actually Muqtada army not Iraqi Govt army and it's PVC plastic sewage tubes with metal frames to scare ISIS rats lol |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Kurdistano | Jun 22 14, 11:17 Post #1340 |
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He should hang Maliki, we clap the hands and than we hang him. |
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| Zagros | Jun 23 14, 6:17 Post #1341 |
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Kerry Arrives in Region, as Iraq Militants Capture Syria Border Post FALLUJAH, Iraq – US Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in the region Sunday to push for a new Iraqi government, as Sunni insurgents expanded their advance to Iraq’s west and captured a key border post with Syria. Meanwhile, residents in cities under rebel control for more than a week reported life returning to normal, with water and electricity restored in some places and markets reopening. In their latest battlefield victories insurgents led by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) captured the towns of Rawah, Anah and Qaim in Anbar province, after marching on major cities that have included Tikrit and Mosul, Iraq’s second-largest, in less than a fortnight. The town of Qaim, with its border crossing to Syria, is a major prize for the militants, whose aim is to create an Islamic state on territories straddling Iraq and Syria. In Fallujah, an important city in Anbar which the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki had been shelling and bombing for months to flush out fighters of the al-Qaeda breakaway, ISIS, residents said the militants had not harmed anyone, following earlier reports of mass atrocities and killings in cities they have captured in lightning advances. The Iraqi military largely buckled under the rebel onslaught, deserting in large numbers. Maliki, struggling for his political life and teetering as Iraq threatens to split into Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish regions, has appealed for help from the United States, which so far has not committed to much more than sending in military advisors. But at the same time, Nasir al-Saeedi, a senior cleric loyal to firebrand Shiite leader Muqtada al-Sadr, said the Americans were not welcome, saying “we will be ready for you if you come back.” Sadr’s Mahdi Army fought US forces during the US occupation that ended in 2011. Kerry arrived in Cairo reportedly to push for a new, non-sectarian Iraqi government, and to urge Arab states to crack down on funding for jihadi groups. As Maliki and Iraq’s highest Shiite authorities called on militias to rise up and confront the Sunni rebels who have vowed to march on Baghdad and overthrow the government, Um Hassan, a 45-year old elementary schoolteacher in Fallujah, said that the militants had freed the city’s Sunnis from “tyranny.” “It has been a week since the militants are in Fallujah, among them fighters who seem to call themselves ISIS. They have not harmed anyone. On the contrary, electricity and water has been restored and markets have been reopened,” she said. “It was Maliki who had imposed tyranny.” Ahmed Adel, a government employee in Fallujah, said that, “Life in Mosul has returned to normal. Gasoline is abundant, all roads are open, and the concrete blast walls have been removed.” He added that, “We even hear that the insurgents, whether ISIS or others, gave out salaries at the University of Mosul. There were no reports of citizens killed by the militatns, unlike Maliki’s security forces, who killed and arrested along sectarian lines and sowed fear. “Maliki forced us to accept ISIS due to his failure to lead the country,” he added. “Maliki and his sectarian army forced people to embrace ISIS because, compared to Maliki, it remains the lesser of two evils.” The insurgents are an axis of several factions, notably ISIS, Naqshbandis, the Islamic Army, as well as rebel Sunni tribes and loyalists of the ousted Iraqi regime. “People do not like ISIS, but Maliki’s injustices have led people to turn to anyone who can rescue them,” explained Abdul Razzaq al-Shammari, a spokesman for protesters who staged a year-long sit-in at Ramadi, Anbar’s capital. Maliki sent in forces early this year to clear out the protests, angering Sunni residents and tribal leaders, and sowing the seeds of the current turmoil. Shammari said that the Ramadi protesters had never accepted ISIS, which he described as only a small part of the armed groups and rebels advancing across Iraq. He said that the insurgents were manly comprised of tribal forces and former army loyalists. Iraq’s large Sunni populations have been chafing under Maliki’s Shiite-led government, which they accuse of only patronizing the Shiites and neglecting the large minority Sunnis over jobs and basic services. The Sunni ire also has been raised over what they say have been random arrests, with thousands of Sunnis – including women – in the government’s prisons. Sheikh Fihran al-Sadid, leader of a tribe in Mosul and Salahaddin, said: “We do not deny the existence (of ISIS), but most people have rallied behind the rebel tribes because injustice sometimes pushes you to cooperate with any party. What Maliki has done against Sunnis since he came to power is unimaginable. Therefore the people's revolution came to restore the dignity of people and to free the innocent from prisons. People would never have rallied around the rebels if it wasn’t for Maliki’s injustices.” http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/220620141 |
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| ALAN | Jun 23 14, 12:37 Post #1342 |
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| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Jun 23 14, 5:29 Post #1343 |
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listen to the guy filming lol maliki militia fleeing Sadyea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPFnD4m-aZM#t=218 |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Jun 23 14, 5:37 Post #1344 |
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Iran sends 130 military planes to Iraq 22.06.2014 Nuwar Faqie Iran has sent hundreds of military planes to Iraq to retaliate against the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham (ISIS) in Mosul and Salahaddin Province. A source from the Iraqi Ministry of defense who asked to remain anonymous revealed that after Iran sent military supervisors and Quds force soldiers, they have now sent 130 military planes. The source also explained that the highly developed planes are capable of reaching specific targets in both Nineveh and Anbar province. However, according to the Iranian Ministry of defense, the planes are those that were confiscated by the Tehran Regime in 1991 while fighting with Iraq and that Iran has decided to give them back to Iraq. The official from the Iraqi Ministry of Defense rejected the statement from the Iranians. http://basnews.com/en/News/Details/Iran-sends-130-military-planes-to-Iraq/24265 |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Brendar | Jun 23 14, 8:33 Post #1345 |
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This divide between sunni and shia goes back to the 7th century http://time.com/2905812/iraq-kurds-isis/ |
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| jjmuneer | Jun 23 14, 11:25 Post #1346 |
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Obviously, but the conflict in Iraq isn't a religious one, as much as people like to make out that it is. It's a proxy war bewteen Saudi Arabia and Iran, and Saudis played their first card. Not to mention Kurds are Sunni, but you don't see them siding with ISIS, it's only logical we Kurds want independance, and the shias and sunnis wants theirs. |
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| the SUN child | Jun 23 14, 11:57 Post #1347 |
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Saudi Arabia = Sunni Muslims Iran = Shia Muslims In the past Sunni Islam was a tool for Arab nationalism. At the very beginning, Islam brought all Arabian tribes together. And Arabs succeeded to Arabize the whole region through their religion. Arabs have been trying to expand their political power through Islam from the very beginning. Persians modified the Arabian religion and brought a halt to Arabian expansion in West Asia. With other words Persians tried to oppose/fight Arab influence and Arabization with the very same weapons Arabs used against other races. The Persians outsmarted those retard Arabs. No matter how many million or billion Arabs there are, they will lose at the long turn. Why? Because most of them are retards and have a low IQ. Because of their intellectual incapacities they can compete with more evolved humans on this planet. Edited by the SUN child, Jun 23 14, 11:58.
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| the SUN child | Jun 24 14, 12:01 Post #1348 |
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If you believe in Darwinism Arabic race no right to exist. It's a survival of the fittest and smartest ones. And Arabic or Turkic races are very low on the evolution ladder. As low as some unevolved races in Africa. Edited by the SUN child, Jun 24 14, 12:09.
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| the SUN child | Jun 24 14, 12:07 Post #1349 |
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For Persians, Arabs and Turkic terrorists like Al-Nusra and ISIS Islam is not a religion but a political tool to suppress people. With all due respect but that’s why folks shouldn’t take that religion to serious and part of our existence. Because life (real world/reality) goes on with or without Islam, Islamic institutions or any other religions. Religions are a social constructions to bring order in human lives, nothing more, nothing less. And there’re 2 kind of religions: violent religions (like Christianity, Islam and Judaism) and peaceful religions (like Buddhism). |
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| jjmuneer | Jun 24 14, 12:24 Post #1350 |
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Saudis aren't Sunnis, they are Wahhabis. Wahhabis don't consider themselvs to be a part of "ahle Sunnah", but seperate. Plus the conflict bewteen Persia and Arabia has existed during the Sassanid era. But no denying Shiasm and Wahhabism are at opposite ends. |
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