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| jjmuneer | Jun 29 14, 12:37 Post #1426 |
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So now you accept its not his father, you question the authenticity of it being his voice? That is confirmed, and it's his voice.
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| Brendar | Jun 29 14, 12:39 Post #1427 |
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No. I told you that is not him because no one has heard him speaking in arabic. |
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| Brendar | Jun 29 14, 12:40 Post #1428 |
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Now show me a video. |
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| jjmuneer | Jun 29 14, 12:42 Post #1429 |
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There isn't any. But show me all the videos of Sistani on the internet. |
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| jjmuneer | Jun 29 14, 12:44 Post #1430 |
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You seem to forget what you say easily. You told me
I'm still wondering how do you know it's not him, when you were certain it was his father? |
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| Brendar | Jun 29 14, 12:54 Post #1431 |
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Ok I was wrong I thought Aytollah is his father. Abu al-Qasim al-Khoei is ali al sistani father. But after reading about him in arabic, I discovered he doesn't speak arabic neither mastered in quran. |
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| jjmuneer | Jun 29 14, 12:56 Post #1432 |
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Well if you say so, whatever helps you go to sleep at night. No problem Mullah Brendar
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| Brendar | Jun 29 14, 1:02 Post #1433 |
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But he doesn't speak arabic and nobody has ever heard him speaking in his entire life. This is what the arabs say not me. Also, the books he has written are not by him but rather his fathers with his name on the cover. So if you have a video share it with us. Edited by Brendar, Jun 29 14, 1:02.
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| jjmuneer | Jun 29 14, 1:11 Post #1434 |
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And how do those Arabs you've spoken to know he cannot speak Arabic? I've already told you, there is only 2 videos of sistani and they are without sound, which just proves the point. He has no videos of him. |
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| MedianKurd | Jun 29 14, 1:38 Post #1435 |
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that picture made me llol
Edited by MedianKurd, Jun 29 14, 1:38.
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| ALAN | Jun 29 14, 4:30 Post #1436 |
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Kurdistan isn't a nation state we have minorities... I can't stand him and his alike and he has shown his opposition to Kurdish state so showing support on KSS is disallowed. This isn't an Iraq forum where we support claric leaders remember where you are.. If you support such people that's your choice we don't want to hear it on here heval. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Deleted User | Jun 29 14, 7:14 Post #1437 |
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Seems like ISIS downed the first MI-35M; ![]()
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| the SUN child | Jun 29 14, 7:21 Post #1438 |
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Doesn't matter, the majority of Kurdistan is Kurdish. Also when you say that Kurdistan is not a nation state, you are claiming that a Kurdish nation doesn’t exist. Kurdish ethnicity is very distinguish from our neighbours, we do exist as 1 group of people, with the same DNA (heritage), language (Kurdic), history and culture. when we do realize Great Kurdistan there will be a Kurdish NATION. And the whole world will recognie Kurds as a nation. Therefore Kurdistan will be considered as a nation state. A nation state with many other ethnic minorities. But all those minorities are going to have a Kurdish nationality. So 1 Kurdish state + 1 Kurdish nationality = 1 Kurdish nation state Edited by the SUN child, Jun 29 14, 8:28.
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| Deleted User | Jun 29 14, 9:50 Post #1439 |
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Iraq just received Su-24s from Russia. 2 arrived in Baghdad today, and will be operational and in the air in 1 week according to Maliki. وەزارەتی بەرگریی گەیشتنی دوو فڕۆکە سوخۆکەی راگەیاند http://rudaw.net/sorani/middleeast/iraq/280620148 By the way, the picture in the article is of a Su-30MKI, not a Su-24 I have to admit the numbers in the article is written in a very unprofessional and chaotic way, almost impossible to interpret whether it says 34 or 24, but realistically Su-24 is much more likely (especially considering the fast delivery and expected time to get in the air. Iraq probably have pilots from former air force to fly them).
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| Deleted User | Jun 29 14, 9:59 Post #1440 |
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Seems like that news article was wrong. Iraqi MoD says there is 5 Su-25s, and there is video confirmation of that. |
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| ALAN | Jun 29 14, 1:15 Post #1441 |
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Time to get them anti airs Barzani spoke of once on Al Jazeera |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Jun 29 14, 4:22 Post #1442 |
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Who controls what (Syria, ISIL, Iraq, Rojava and South Kurdistan) Rojava and SK are painted as one ![]() |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| mazda | Jun 29 14, 7:30 Post #1443 |
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ISIS territory is very large. |
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| Zagros | Jun 29 14, 8:01 Post #1444 |
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Kurdish fighters step in to protect Iraq residents from ISIS MAKTAB KHALED, Iraq — Kurdish flags ripple over a dusty checkpoint south of the oil city of Kirkuk, where soldiers deploy behind earthen mounds and sandbags. This is the Kurds' front line against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, the al-Qaida splinter group that has stormed across northern and western Iraq backed by Sunni militants. Iraqi soldiers fled from the area as ISIS approached. A few discarded uniforms and helmets are scattered around freshly dug foxholes. “Just past that bridge is ISIS,” said one young soldier in an older American army uniform and a yellow-and-black scarf, pointing about a mile away. Asked whether he fears the terrorist group, which is known for beheading captives, he replied: “No. I'm a peshmerga.” Kurdish peshmerga — “those who face death” — have their own reputation as fierce fighters. For more than a decade, they held back former dictator Saddam Hussein's army despite its superior numbers, tanks, helicopters and chemical weapons. During the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq, the peshmerga fought alongside American forces. Now they stand between ISIS and fellow Kurds, the non-Arab minority in a semi-autonomous portion of Iraq bordering Turkey and Iran. Their gains on the battlefield could lead to Kurdish independence. The Kurdish 1st Brigade has seized Kirkuk, a city that many Kurds refer to as “our Jerusalem.” Kurds — divided among Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey by European powers after World War I — have longed for a separate state; some think Iraq's sectarian split could give them that chance. Kurdish President Massoud Barzani told an interviewer last week that “the time is here” for Kurds “to determine their future.” BACK-AND-FORTH BATTLE “When Mosul fell to ISIS, our army went on red alert,” Col. Lateef Saber said in a prefab container that has been converted into an office. ISIS, he said, has “no stable positions, just mobile units. ... It's a back-and-forth battle. They stay five kilometers (three miles) away. Then they attack us and run back. “If we capture an ISIS fighter, we turn them over to a higher authority. If ISIS captures us, they will slaughter us.” American-made Humvees with Iraqi army insignia, parked around the checkpoint, were seized from Iraqi troops by ISIS but recaptured by peshmerga, Saber said. Behind him, an advertisement on a television set extolled the Iraqi army's prowess. Saber, sitting in a spot that the army abandoned, acknowledged that the army “is powerful, and we know that.” But, he said, its soldiers “have no loyalty to the country. They had a lot of training and equipment from the Americans. If we had that, we would be much stronger.” The idea of his men's fleeing is unthinkable. “Saddam used chemical weapons on the Kurds, and we didn't retreat. And now you want us to retreat over a small group like ISIS?” ‘WE LIKE AMERICANS' Headquartered in an abandoned railway station, 1st Brigade Gen. Sherko Fatih said he has lost men in “large battles” and is awaiting “the order to move against ISIS.” The provincial governor and other officials asked for Kurdish protection, he said, when an Iraqi division of 17,000 soldiers fled after fighting ISIS for less than 30 minutes. “I personally called the commander of that division to say, ‘Stay and fight side by side with us against the terrorists.' But they didn't answer my calls,” Fatih said. “They don't have the spirit to fight against the terrorists. The smallest fight, and they collapse.” In Kirkuk, “we aren't just defending the Kurds; we are defending Arabs and Turkmen, and the Assyrians and Chaldean Christians — anyone who is under our control,” he said. That city, a mosaic of those religious and ethnic factions, is “100 percent safe” from ISIS, he assured. After a suicide bomber killed three people and wounded dozens there earlier in the week, more troops deployed there. Many peshmerga are proud to have fought or deployed alongside American forces. The general fondly recalls Gens. Anthony Cucolo, Patrick Donahue and others with whom he served. Saber worked with U.S. special forces until they withdrew in 2010. “Do the Americans like the Kurds?” one soldier asked. “We like the Americans.” At the checkpoint, Saber walked onto the bridge to talk with approaching motorists about the situation on the ISIS-held side of the river. Some of his men watched from a sandbagged rail line. “ISIS is putting explosives on the roads over there,” he said, pointing toward the town of Hawija, where gunfire is often heard. “All these villages have civilians, and we are defending them.” As the sun faded on the horizon, he looked back at his dug-in troops. “They don't sleep in the night,” he said. “Because this is our land, and we will defend it.” Read more: http://triblive.com/usworld/betsyhiel/6358709-74/isis-kurdish-peshmerga#ixzz3617KxeuB |
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| ALAN | Jun 29 14, 11:37 Post #1445 |
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Russian jet sent for saving milki's ass.... note the russians, and i think they will flight it too |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Xoybun | Jun 29 14, 11:39 Post #1446 |
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That piece of junk Daash has anti air weapons more advanced than ours
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| ALAN | Jun 29 14, 11:43 Post #1447 |
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Tikrit rebels 'push back Iraq army' - BBC Iraq crisis: Fresh clashes over Tikrit Iraqi government forces are continuing an offensive to retake the northern city of Tikrit from Sunni rebels. Aircraft have struck at rebel positions and clashes have broken out in various parts of the city, witnesses and officials have said. Troops had reportedly pulled back to the nearby town of Dijla as Saturday's initial offensive met stiff resistance. The city of Tikrit was captured by Sunni rebels on 11 June as they swept across large parts of KRG. "The security forces are advancing from different areas", Lt-Gen Qassem Atta told journalists. "There are ongoing clashes." There was fighting in the northern Qadissiyah district, near the university where troops established a foothold in the city a few days ago, witnesses told the Associated Press. An unnamed official also told the agency of clashes around an air base formerly used by the US military, Camp Speicher. Improvised devices Heavy fighting took place on Saturday between the Iraqi security forces and armed men from different factions controlling Tikrit, resulting in many casualties on both sides, eyewitnesses and journalists told the BBC. ![]() Several air strikes were also reported on the rebel-held second city of Mosul ![]() Refugees have continued to pour into South Kurdistan in order to flee the fighting Insurgents, led by the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis), were reported to have shot down a helicopter and captured the pilot. The witnesses said the Iraqi forces had been hampered in their bid to retake the city by the large number of improvised explosive devices laid on the approaches to the city. But Lt-Gen Atta said that during Sunday's offensive many of the devices had been detonated. Fear inside Tikrit "We cannot live here another day. The entire night we have only heard bombs bursting all around the hospital" - Marina Jose, one of 46 stranded Indian nurses at a Tikrit teaching hospital, tells BBC 'No-one wants to stay here' Meanwhile, Iraq said it had received the first batch of military jets ordered from Russia in order to help fight the militants. The defence ministry said five Sukhoi aircraft would enter service in "three to four days". Speaking to the BBC on Sunday, British Secretary of State William Hague called for political unity in Iraq to help fight what he called the "mortal threat" to the state. "Security operations will only work with strong political support from all elements in Iraq" he said. Mr Hague's intervention will add to the pressure on Iraq's leaders to form a national unity government, correspondents say. It follows a call from Iraq's most influential Shia cleric Grand Ayatollah Sistani for a prime minister to be appointed by Tuesday - when the new parliament meets - to try to defuse the country's political crisis. Prime Minister Nouri Maliki wants a third term, though correspondents say he is seen by many as having precipitated the crisis through sectarian policies that have pushed Iraq's Sunni minority into the hands of Isis extremists. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28077425 |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| jjmuneer | Jun 30 14, 1:11 Post #1448 |
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And Assyrians insult us? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRLb0XJIzY We defend them, they don't even defend themselves. |
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| jjmuneer | Jun 30 14, 8:53 Post #1449 |
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-declares-new-islamic-state-in-middle-east-with-abu-bakr-albaghdadi-as-emir-removing-iraq-and-syria-from-its-name-9571374.html Iraq crisis: Isis changes name and declares its territories a new Islamic state with 'restoration of caliphate' in Middle East
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| Brendar | Jun 30 14, 10:17 Post #1450 |
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Interviewer: Now has Kirkuk gone? hanan fatlawi: Yes Kirkuk is gone. hanan fatlawi: I worked as part of the ARTICLE 140 committee, and I managed to obstruct the implementation of the article while it was seemingly moving inexorably toward implementation for exactly 4 years. Interviewer: So you ruined it. hanan fatlawi: I did it for iraq. 35.05 (I loved the way she said "Kirkuk is gone" )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UJaG7zDQAw |
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That is confirmed, and it's his voice.






I have to admit the numbers in the article is written in a very unprofessional and chaotic way, almost impossible to interpret whether it says 34 or 24, but realistically Su-24 is much more likely (especially considering the fast delivery and expected time to get in the air. Iraq probably have pilots from former air force to fly them).


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