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She needs a man to silence her, but but I guess you won't find a man in Iraq lol lol ....They should discuss how Iraqi army doesn't exist anymore instead, not how they "lost" Kerkûk.
Edited by Xoybun, Jun 30 14, 10:28.
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Jun 29 14, 11:37
Russian jet sent for saving milki's ass.... note the russians, and i think they will flight it too
soucre: http://m.aljazeera.com/story/201462944837214478
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She is a dumb bitch, once she says "i opposed article 140 implementation for 4 years" so shamelessly but then say "Kerkûk status should not be determined by military means but by the constitution"

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she must be smoking something...
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Iranian soldiers’ parents: don’t kill our sons in Iraq

30.06.2014
Nuwar Faqie

Parents of Iranian soldiers, who have been sent to north Iraq to fight the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham (ISIS) and help the Iraqi Army, have called on their government to not send their sons to Iraq.

After Iraqi army collapsed hundreds of Iraqi civilians and Iranian Quds force, were sent into Iraq to fight the Sunni insurgents and help the Shiite-led Iraqi government.

On Saturday, the parents of Iranian Soldiers who have been sent to Iraq protested in front of the Iranian Army and Protection Building in Iranian Capital Tehran and called on the authorities to bring back their sons and to not participate in the current clashes happening in Iraq.

According to a BasNews source, the parents told the officials that they did not want their sons killed in Iraq, and asked them to bring back the Quds forces.

Recently local and international media have published reports of Iranian soldiers fighting in Iraq and recent reports talked about Iranian soldiers being killed during clashes against ISIS.

http://basnews.com/en/News/Details/Iranian-soldiers--parents--don-t-kill-our-sons-in-Iraq/25149
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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The Fall of Iraq - What You Aren't Being Told

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey9tExYbjm8
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"If Turkey allows itself interfere in the matter of Kerkûk because of a few thousand Turkmen, we will do the same with regard to Diyarbakir (Amed) and other Kurdistani cities in Turkey because of 30 million Kurds." - President Masoud Barzanî
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In 2007 PM Necirvan Barzani predicted current situation in Iraq

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From Wikileaks leaked document PM Barzani say following:

- Iran know only they and US supports the Iraqi Government

- Peace between Shia and Sunnis will not happen

- Whenever US force is out of Iraq, the situation will get worse

- Amerika need to think on a solution, and not creating a weak government that will not succeed

- Currently(2007) kurdish independency is not in favor for kurds, but iraq need ti be a federalism system, and not a sentral government that is weak

- It is needed by Amerika and Iran to sitt togheter and come to a solution for Iraq

- Li Îranê bandora herî mezin derbarê pirsa Iraqê de ya Qasim Silêmanî û Elî Larîcanî ye.(Couldnt translate this correctly)

- Iranian wants to come to a solution regarding Iraq with Amerika

- Iran is affraid of that after Amerikan redrawal, Sunnis will come to power and take controll over the government

- Neither will Amerika or Israel attack Iran

- Whenever Bagdad want it, from our side there is no problem having connections with Israel


Source: http://rudaw.net/kurmanci/kurdistan/300620146

I have tried my best to translate, but if you see any mistake, let me know and i will correct.
Edited by Alasha, Jun 30 14, 11:51.
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"If Turkey allows itself interfere in the matter of Kerkûk because of a few thousand Turkmen, we will do the same with regard to Diyarbakir (Amed) and other Kurdistani cities in Turkey because of 30 million Kurds." - President Masoud Barzanî
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Sunni tribal leader: Baghdad will fall, we don’t want to affect Kurdistan

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30.06.2014
Nuwar Faqie

According to Dlemi tribe leader Ali Hatam Suleiman, the takeover of Baghdad by the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham (ISIS) is inevitable but stressed that he does not want this to affect the South Kurdistan.

Suleiman revealed in a press conference in Erbil said capturing Baghdad by ISIS militants is Inevitable but they don’t want to something that could affect South Kurdistan negatively.

“What has happened in Sunni areas is related to the Sunni revolution that is taking place and in the near future Baghdad will also be freed and there will be no one left to defend Baghdad,” said Suleiman

Suleiman also expressed hope that the crisis in Iraq would end soon and the people would cease to be oppressed.

So far ISIS extreme group has captured Mosul, which is the third biggest city in Iraq and also captured some other Sunni towns in north and central of Iraq.

http://basnews.com/en/News/Details/Sunni-tribal-leader--Baghdad-will-fall--we-don-t-want-to-affect-Kurdistan/25194
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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CNN citing witnesses: No security forces in Tikrit city

Monday, 30 June 2014 11:39

Shafaq News / CNN U.S. TV station reported, citing local residents in Tikrit, as saying that there is no trace of government forces in the city, about 140 kilometers northwest of the capital, Baghdad.

The lady who spoke to CNN by telephone, refused to be identified for security reasons and said "there is no Iraqi forces here .. for those who exist at least in my area, they are (ISIL), pointing to hear the sounds of heavy fighting between the two sides in the region .

The network said that "the videos posted on " YouTube " site upheld the eyewitness allegations, where the camera wandered across the city to prove they are no Iraqi security forces on Saturday, which is the day on which the Iraqi army launched operations to clear the city from armed militias."

A voice shouted, in a video clip, repeatedly on "June 28, 2014" to confirm the date of registration, adding, "Thank God .. Tikrit is safe and still in the hands of tribesmen."

According to the news, the witnesses pointed from inside and outside Tikrit city, to be exposed to heavy shelling by Iraqi forces.

Al- Iraqiya semi-official TV satellite channel said on Saturday, that the security forces cleared Tikrit city fully from the elements ISIL organization , while Salahuddin Governor , Ahmed Abdullah al-Jubouri confirmed the news.

http://english.shafaaq.com/index.php/politics/10357-cnn-citing-witnesses-no-security-forces-in-tikrit-city
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Jun 30 14, 10:17
Interviewer: Now has Kirkuk gone?

hanan fatlawi: Yes Kirkuk is gone.

hanan fatlawi: I worked as part of the ARTICLE 140 committee, and I managed to obstruct the implementation of the article while it was seemingly moving inexorably toward implementation for exactly 4 years.

Interviewer: So you ruined it.

hanan fatlawi: I did it for iraq.


35.05 (I loved the way she said "Kirkuk is gone" rofl )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UJaG7zDQAw
Haha burn motherfucker. Who's laughing now little bitch?
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She has just f***ked herself up and milki by saying "i worked on opposing article 140 implementation for 4 years" now we know officially they have done it and we will no longer even talk about it with them but UN, just to make the recent reunited areas to become 'offical' parts of KRG and link all of their administrations to Hewlêr...
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Sunnis and Kurds Walk Out of Iraq Parliament

By ROD NORDLAND

JULY 1, 2014


BAGHDAD — Sunnis and Kurds walked out of the first session of the Iraqi Parliament on Tuesday, imperiling efforts to form a new government in the face of a bitter offensive by Sunni militants.

After the new Parliament took a short recess after less than an hour of debate, Sunni and Kurdish lawmakers did not return. There were not enough lawmakers present for a quorum, forcing the session to be adjourned for at least a week.

Spokesmen for the party of Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki blamed Kurds and Sunnis for the impasse, provoking countercharges that Shiite leaders were not ready to make a serious deal. The day’s events also ended hopes of an early resolution to Iraq’s political crisis, even as insurgents mount a violent challenge north and west of the capital.

The walkout represented a rejection of calls by Shiite religious leaders who had demanded agreement on the speedy formation of a government that included Sunnis, Kurds and Shiites.
The Iraqi government had declared a national holiday for the convening of Parliament. Many shops and businesses were closed as large numbers of troops and police officers patrolled the city and established checkpoints at most major intersections, as well as around neighborhoods with large Sunni populations.

Underscoring the threat from the militants, the United Nations announced that June had been the deadliest month in Iraq for many years.

The violent death toll in Iraq, except Anbar Province, during June was 2,417 people. By far the largest category of fatalities was civilians, with more than 1,500 dead, followed by 886 members of Iraq’s beleaguered security forces, according to United Nations statistics.

The fatalities were four times higher than in May, before the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria began its offensive to take Mosul and much of KRG on June 10.

The death toll was one of the highest monthly figures for Iraq, reaching a level of violence not seen there since 2008, according to the United Nations. In May, according to the data, 799 people were killed in Iraq, including 240 members of the security forces. The figures do not take into account Anbar Province, much of which has been under the control of ISIS-led insurgents and where the United Nations has no presence. The United Nations cited Health Ministry officials in Anbar as recording 244 civilians killed and 588 injured from June 1-29, bringing the total violent death toll for the country in June to at least 2,661.

In 2008, one of the worst years of sectarian violence, 7,000 people were killed in the entire year.

The top United Nations official in Iraq, Nikolay E. Mladenov, called the civilian casualties in June a “staggering number” and connected the violence to Iraq’s stalled political process.

With large parts of the country under the control of ISIS militants and armed groups, Mr. Mladenov said in a statement issued by his office: “It is imperative that national leaders work together to foil attempts to destroy the social fabric of Iraqi society.”

“What can be achieved through a Constitutional political process cannot be achieved through an exclusively military response,” he added. “Security must be restored but the root causes of violence must be addressed.”

Late Monday night, ISIS militants fired mortars into the Askari shrine in Samarra, killing six people, according to hospital officials.

An Iraqi government official said the shrine, where many worshipers had gathered to celebrate the first day of Ramadan, was not hit, but a security official at the scene said two mortars hit the dome, causing minor damage.

Such attacks on the shrine by Qaeda-related groups in 2006 set off a wave of sectarian violence in Iraq that lasted for years.

The Iraqi government has heavily reinforced Samarra, about 80 miles north of Baghdad, to prevent ISIS insurgents from carrying out attacks on the shrine.

ISIS has made no secret of its intention to spark a sectarian war in Iraq, as Al Qaeda did in 2006. The group has been formed from the remnants of Al Qaeda in Iraq, which was defeated by a Sunni uprising against the extremists, aided by support from the American and Iraqi militaries.

The assault on the shrine aroused fears of a wave of retaliatory attacks in an atmosphere in which Sunnis have already begun to be the target of random, apparently sectarian killings in Baghdad and elsewhere, as a response to the advances by ISIS in Sunni-dominated parts of the country.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/02/world/middleeast/iraq.html
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sunnis announced in a press conference that they will no0 longer return to parliament, they have realized having a sunni region or state is much better than living with the al malikis....
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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sunnis announced in a press conference that they will no0 longer return to parliament, they have realized having a sunni region or state is much better than living with the al malikis....
I wouldn't go that far. If a sunni state is declared... there will be lots in-fighting, unless the ISIS steps down, or begins wearing suits. Only KRG can become independent without political reprecussions. Either way... ISIS is f***ked if they declare independence. The sunni tribes aren't stupid and neither are baathists, ISIS won't share power with sunni arab nationalists or tribalistic arabs. The sunni part of iraq and anbar is controlled by tribes, it's not one city like ar-raqqia. They won't relinquish power so that some foreign islamists can create a taliban state ran by suffocating salafism and retarded sunni islamic extremists. Even afghanistan, only fell into taliban hands, because the other non-salafist deobandi factions, weren't organized enough. Not because afghans actually wanted the taliban. Shah massoud who was more popular than Taliban was winning against them in the afghan civil war, before things went to shizz there.
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^^ none of my concerns, as long as sunnis have pulled out of baghdad this is great news for sth Kurdistan...

and IS is f***ked? how please let me know....
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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^^ none of my concerns, as long as sunnis have pulled out of baghdad this is great news for sth Kurdistan...

and IS is f***ked? how please let me know....
You could read the above reasons. You thinking it's not your concern, doesn't mean it won't affect you. I think there is a possibility of it spilling over, if kurdish salafists ever want to overthrow KRG. ISIS is f***ked... because they're politically totalitarian, and don't share power with people with different POV. Arab tribes have a bedouin mentality and they'll rebel. Baathists will either turn-coat or side with the tribes. Unless ISIS co-opts them and waters down their rules, approach and ideology, they'll never be accepted. Closing down barber shops and killing people for saying "DA'ESH" won't fly with arab tribes. Thats what the arab tribe leaders themselves said.
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^^ none of my concerns, as long as sunnis have pulled out of baghdad this is great news for sth Kurdistan...

and IS is f***ked? how please let me know....
Because ISIS don't care about "wal sunnah wal jamat". To them they are the only true "Ahle Sunnah", since they are Wahhabi/Takfiris. They believe they can declare anyone who opposes them an apostate, regardless of Shia or Sunni. And as Lashgare said Sunni tribal leaders, are tribal, they don't want to share power. To them, it's either my way or the highway. And the fact "Abu-bakr al baghdadi", released his true name and claims to be a descendant of the prophet. It shows ISIS are insecure.
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sunnis announced in a press conference that they will no0 longer return to parliament, they have realized having a sunni region or state is much better than living with the al malikis....
Yes alot of the sunni officials have said that in the media and I hope they stick to their words which will make our independence much more closer.
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^^ exactly my point
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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He named his self Abu-bakr because the leader when islam had his golden age capturing spain and there were no sunni/shia tensions was also named abu-bakr. He sees him as an rolemodel i think
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He named his self Abu-bakr because the leader when islam had his golden age capturing spain and there were no sunni/shia tensions was also named abu-bakr. He sees him as an rolemodel i think
The Islamic golden age was atleast 200 years after the existence of the Sahabi known as Abu-Bakr. And yes his "nick name" is that.
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Russia will deliver to Iraq 5 to 10 additional planes by the end of summer.
Today, the 5 already delivered planes flew over Baghdad (wonder if flown by Russian or Iraqi pilots?).
Deal signed in 2013 under "implementation".

http://rudaw.net/sorani/middleeast/iraq/0107201411

Something else to note (not from article);
The remaining 34 F-16s are on halt. Many speculate that they won't be delivered, even tho paid for.

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Russia will deliver to Iraq 5 to 10 additional planes by the end of summer.
Today, the 5 already delivered planes flew over Baghdad (wonder if flown by Russian or Iraqi pilots?).
Deal signed in 2013 under "implementation".

http://rudaw.net/sorani/middleeast/iraq/0107201411

Something else to note (not from article);
The remaining 34 F-16s are on halt. Many speculate that they won't be delivered, even tho paid for.

It would be a great trolling if the paid ones are sent to us instead :D , Murica' would have to say we thought you paid with Kurdish budget too lol lol


and then we declare independence with the F-16s
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He named his self Abu-bakr because the leader when islam had his golden age capturing spain and there were no sunni/shia tensions was also named abu-bakr. He sees him as an rolemodel i think
The Islamic golden age was atleast 200 years after the existence of the Sahabi known as Abu-Bakr. And yes his "nick name" is that.
Well i mean he was the last leader to remain all the power or something because the one after him let sunni, and shia have tensions and the empire fell
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Well i mean he was the last leader to remain all the power or something because the one after him let sunni, and shia have tensions and the empire fell
Well not to get into a religious debate, but most Shias believes it was Abu Bakr who caused the 'Fitnah', since he is believed to of usurped the Islamic caliphate.
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