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Apperently there are 800 feylis Shias in Kirkuk now sent by malaki each time they send 200. Jash PUK and jash feylis that go there!
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Just nuke Iraq = Problem solved
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Pker2theend
Jul 22 14, 5:33
Apperently there are 800 feylis Shias in Kirkuk now sent by malaki each time they send 200. Jash PUK and jash feylis that go there!
Again with the lies.
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Jul 22 14, 11:09
JJ don't Denie that you wouldn't do this.
Don't deny it, you'd fight for ISIS if you could.
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Jul 22 14, 5:33
Apperently there are 800 feylis Shias in Kirkuk now sent by malaki each time they send 200. Jash PUK and jash feylis that go there!
And you definately cannot read Arabic, if you open up the source it doesn't mention faylis lol. Those Shia militias are Arabs and they weren't sent to Karbala, but probably the shia turkmen area.

Well ok it does mention Karbala
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Anyone who can read arabic and isn't Brendar will easily confirm what I'm saying.
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ISIS burning Palestianian flag:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=jQJGUal5xtU&app=desktop
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They are apparently Badr militia.... If this makes PUK jash how do you EKis feel about Turkish army barracks in PDK zone? How do you think NKis see it as???

I'm not with this move it's very wrong however they won't STAY and build an army barrack, they aren't there to fight any Kurdish forces but to protect a shrine since it's not our problem to protect them, this I'm not worried about but we could expect Persian army barracks in Kerkûk and Suli in the future if PDK doesn't kick out Turkish ones from its territories....
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Jul 22 14, 10:30
It is the baath party flag for fck sake
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JJ the news is not fake, it is true, if you read Kurdish media you will see it is true! as for the logic behind going through slemani, well obviously Daash controls all the roads from Baghdad to Kirkuk, so, they go went to Slemani, and traveled through secured Kurdish land to daquq.

I think this is some sort of compromise.. the Shia wanted to protect their shrine, obviously, but the Peshmerga didn't want Arabs coming in to protect it, neither did they want to risk their own troops for a war that isn't ours, so it seems the compromise was Shia Kurds.

Kak Alan it is wrong to compare this to the Turkish base in Duhok because this was an agreement between the Allies and Turkey to enforce the no fly zone.. we had no say in this.. now, off course ideally we should ask them to leave, but again, as long as the PKK stays in Qandil no country will support us in this claim and Turkey will use and justify their base due to the PKK. Also, are we really in a position to overplay it with Turkey? it's hard enough for us to sell our oil as it is.
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Jul 22 14, 11:43
Kak Alan it is wrong to compare this to the Turkish base in Duhok because this was an agreement between the Allies and Turkey to enforce the no fly zone.. we had no say in this.. now, off course ideally we should ask them to leave, but again, as long as the PKK stays in Qandil no country will support us in this claim and Turkey will use and justify their base due to the PKK. Also, are we really in a position to overplay it with Turkey? it's hard enough for us to sell our oil as it is.
The Turkish barracks should at the very least be surrounded by multiple Peshmerga bases, so that their ability to mess around or blackmail us is negated. If my memory serves me right, there have been stand-offs between Turkish forces and Peshmerga before(although these might not have been PDK-affiliated units).
Edited by Partizan, Jul 23 14, 12:33.
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Partizan
Jul 23 14, 12:30
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Jul 22 14, 11:43
Kak Alan it is wrong to compare this to the Turkish base in Duhok because this was an agreement between the Allies and Turkey to enforce the no fly zone.. we had no say in this.. now, off course ideally we should ask them to leave, but again, as long as the PKK stays in Qandil no country will support us in this claim and Turkey will use and justify their base due to the PKK. Also, are we really in a position to overplay it with Turkey? it's hard enough for us to sell our oil as it is.
The Turkish barracks should at the very least be surrounded by multiple Peshmerga bases, so that their ability to mess around or blackmail us is negated. If my memory serves me right, there have been stand-offs between Turkish forces and Peshmerga before(although these might not have been PDK-affiliated units).
There are and they were.

Look KDP is still pro-Greater Kurdistan and they don't hide it. Pro-KDP generals have greater Kurdistan maps in their offices. This is where KDP and PKK clash.
Edited by AlanJunior, Jul 23 14, 12:37.
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Jul 22 14, 11:43
Kak Alan it is wrong to compare this to the Turkish base in Duhok because this was an agreement between the Allies and Turkey to enforce the no fly zone.. we had no say in this.. now, off course ideally we should ask them to leave, but again, as long as the PKK stays in Qandil no country will support us in this claim and Turkey will use and justify their base due to the PKK. Also, are we really in a position to overplay it with Turkey? it's hard enough for us to sell our oil as it is.
Yup and Iran will bring its army barrack to Suli and Kerkûk using PJAK as an excuse as well.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Jul 23 14, 12:52
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Jul 22 14, 11:43
Kak Alan it is wrong to compare this to the Turkish base in Duhok because this was an agreement between the Allies and Turkey to enforce the no fly zone.. we had no say in this.. now, off course ideally we should ask them to leave, but again, as long as the PKK stays in Qandil no country will support us in this claim and Turkey will use and justify their base due to the PKK. Also, are we really in a position to overplay it with Turkey? it's hard enough for us to sell our oil as it is.
Yup and Iran will bring its army barrack to Suli and Kerkûk using PJAK as an excuse as well.
They can't Kak Alan you missed the main point. Turkey is a NATO member and the PKK was considered an emeny of NATO by extension, besides, the Americans had to agree to their demands because they used Turkish bases and airspace to enforce the no fly zone! Iran is not a NATO member neither are they on good terms with the US, and so, the US will never allow them to build up inside Kurdistan, and neither will Kurdistan.
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no offense but really f**k PUK and those shia jashes doing the biding of fartians and f**k talibani and his entire family, f**king talibans can't f**king stand up for themselves. As long Iran allows the talibani clan to spend their Newroz in iran as they they do every year they will continue being their lapdogs and sell the Kurdish nation, f**k yeketi. Atleast KDP are trying to bring peace and help Kurds in NK what are PUK doing besides licking khameneis butthole?

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Jul 23 14, 2:31
no offense but really f**k PUK and those shia jashes doing the biding of fartians and f**k talibani and his entire family, f**king talibans can't f**king stand up for themselves. As long Iran allows the talibani clan to spend their Newroz in iran as they they do every year they will continue being their lapdogs and sell the Kurdish nation, f**k yeketi. Atleast KDP are trying to bring peace and help Kurds in NK what are PUK doing besides licking khameneis butthole?

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Had you been a Northern Kurd saying this about the KDP and Barzani you would have been banned hours ago.
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no offense but really f**k PUK and those shia jashes doing the biding of fartians and f**k talibani and his entire family, f**king talibans can't f**king stand up for themselves. As long Iran allows the talibani clan to spend their Newroz in iran as they they do every year they will continue being their lapdogs and sell the Kurdish nation, f**k yeketi. Atleast KDP are trying to bring peace and help Kurds in NK what are PUK doing besides licking khameneis butthole?

:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Had you been a Northern Kurd saying this about the KDP and Barzani you would have been banned hours ago.
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Jul 22 14, 11:43
JJ the news is not fake, it is true, if you read Kurdish media you will see it is true! as for the logic behind going through slemani, well obviously Daash controls all the roads from Baghdad to Kirkuk, so, they go went to Slemani, and traveled through secured Kurdish land to daquq.

I think this is some sort of compromise.. the Shia wanted to protect their shrine, obviously, but the Peshmerga didn't want Arabs coming in to protect it, neither did they want to risk their own troops for a war that isn't ours, so it seems the compromise was Shia Kurds.

Kak Alan it is wrong to compare this to the Turkish base in Duhok because this was an agreement between the Allies and Turkey to enforce the no fly zone.. we had no say in this.. now, off course ideally we should ask them to leave, but again, as long as the PKK stays in Qandil no country will support us in this claim and Turkey will use and justify their base due to the PKK. Also, are we really in a position to overplay it with Turkey? it's hard enough for us to sell our oil as it is.
Yes and you missed out the part where they travel all the way back down to Karbala lol.

It's not true, and if you think it's true just show me the source. The Kirkuk TV source doesn't mention feylis but Arabs, as Alan stated.

This is a myth I've asked my dad. Don't get my wrong there are faylis in Baghdadi police force, who live in Baghdad and work as police for a living, but there is no such "militia". That's some myth.

Notice how quick people are not to refute news related to feylis, but when it comes to their own tribe or region, they are quick to defend them. Honestly some people give me a report of reporters who haven't even set foot in the Kurdish district of Baghdad.

And I've read Kurdish Media, nothing even indicates this is true, no Feyli has even made such a statement ordering such a creation of a militia. Feylis don't support Maliki, which is fact. So why on earth would they want to help him.
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no offense but really f**k PUK and those shia jashes doing the biding of fartians and f**k talibani and his entire family, f**king talibans can't f**king stand up for themselves. As long Iran allows the talibani clan to spend their Newroz in iran as they they do every year they will continue being their lapdogs and sell the Kurdish nation, f**k yeketi. Atleast KDP are trying to bring peace and help Kurds in NK what are PUK doing besides licking khameneis butthole?

:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Had you been a Northern Kurd saying this about the KDP and Barzani you would have been banned hours ago.
He is blocked. No insult is tolerated towards ANY leaders, IVE SAID THIS 100 TIMES, if you have "concerns" why not use the "seniors"??? most of you do it he isnt the only one.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Jul 22 14, 10:25
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Jul 22 14, 9:41
Shiite force arrive in Kirkuk through Sulaimani

This source doesn't state they are feyli's but Rudaw stated it. jjmuneer since you understand arabic, here is a source from Kirkuk TV.

http://kirkuknow.com/arabic/?p=34958
You take me for a fool don't you? NO WHERE DOES THAT EVEN MENTION FAYLI. Brendar I cannot believe you have the nerve to spout lies like that. It says soo shia militants who are Arabs, not Faylis lol.
If you read my comment, thats what I exactly said. I said "This source doesn't state they are feyli's but Rudaw stated it." :)
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Jul 22 14, 10:25

Quoting limited to 2 levels deepShiite force arrive in Kirkuk through Sulaimani

This source doesn't state they are feyli's but Rudaw stated it. jjmuneer since you understand arabic, here is a source from Kirkuk TV.

http://kirkuknow.com/arabic/?p=34958
If you read my comment, thats what I exactly said. I said "This source doesn't state they are feyli's but Rudaw stated it." :)
I read it, it don't heval. Alan showed it on SK thread.
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JJ the news is not fake, it is true, if you read Kurdish media you will see it is true! as for the logic behind going through slemani, well obviously Daash controls all the roads from Baghdad to Kirkuk, so, they go went to Slemani, and traveled through secured Kurdish land to daquq.

I think this is some sort of compromise.. the Shia wanted to protect their shrine, obviously, but the Peshmerga didn't want Arabs coming in to protect it, neither did they want to risk their own troops for a war that isn't ours, so it seems the compromise was Shia Kurds.

Kak Alan it is wrong to compare this to the Turkish base in Duhok because this was an agreement between the Allies and Turkey to enforce the no fly zone.. we had no say in this.. now, off course ideally we should ask them to leave, but again, as long as the PKK stays in Qandil no country will support us in this claim and Turkey will use and justify their base due to the PKK. Also, are we really in a position to overplay it with Turkey? it's hard enough for us to sell our oil as it is.
Yes and you missed out the part where they travel all the way back down to Karbala lol.

It's not true, and if you think it's true just show me the source. The Kirkuk TV source doesn't mention feylis but Arabs, as Alan stated.

This is a myth I've asked my dad. Don't get my wrong there are faylis in Baghdadi police force, who live in Baghdad and work as police for a living, but there is no such "militia". That's some myth.

Notice how quick people are not to refute news related to feylis, but when it comes to their own tribe or region, they are quick to defend them. Honestly some people give me a report of reporters who haven't even set foot in the Kurdish district of Baghdad.

And I've read Kurdish Media, nothing even indicates this is true, no Feyli has even made such a statement ordering such a creation of a militia. Feylis don't support Maliki, which is fact. So why on earth would they want to help him.
A small minority actually do support maliki(because of religious reasons), but there are as many or twice more who support KRG and barzani, as there are maliki supporters. majority(90%) are not politically active however. Personally I want to stay out of partisan politics until the situation with sunni arab islamists settles. I just want to kill ISIS and baathists as they kill innocent people and as they've killed thousands of people, and hundred of thousands of ours. What they do to innocent people is unforgivable.
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A small minority actually do support maliki(because of religious reasons), but there are as many or twice more who support KRG and barzani, as there are maliki supporters. majority(90%) are not politically active however. Personally I want to stay out of partisan politics until the situation with sunni arab islamists settles. I just want to kill ISIS and baathists as they kill innocent people and as they've killed thousands of people, and hundred of thousands of ours. What they do to innocent people is unforgivable.
Lashgare no feyli supports maliki for religious reasons lol. Maliki isn't a "religious leader". The feylis that "support" Maliki are no more than a few dozen, and trust me I've seen them they aren't religious at all. I know one personally.

Most religious feylis are basically apolitical. I know quite a few disgruntled faylis who don't trust SK, but they aren't "JASH", they support independance.

Although Lashgare the claim feylis are fighting for maliki is ridicilous. I've contacted my family, they haven't heard anything.
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Lashgare no feyli supports maliki for religious reasons lol. Maliki isn't a "religious leader". The feylis that "support" Maliki are no more than a few dozen, and trust me I've seen them they aren't religious at all. I know one personally.

Most religious feylis are basically apolitical. I know quite a few disgruntled faylis who don't trust SK, but they aren't "JASH", they support independance.

Although Lashgare the claim feylis are fighting for maliki is ridicilous. I've contacted my family, they haven't heard anything.
You've obviously no idea about feylis in iraq then. While overall political activism is low for feylis, there is definitely an element of pro-shiah/pro-maliki(majority arab areas aren't exactly bastions of kurdish nationalism political activity, so to speak). Maybe not in Ilam or kermanshah, but in baghdad, mandali, definitely. It's natural since they're disconnected from nationalism(lack of political activity), and i don't see why people here are upset about that. It's like saying there are no pro ISIS supporters(even though ISIS is worse than eve maliki if they had power) amongst soranis or kurmanjis, or there no pro-sunni religious kurds, or no salafi kurds. And that only shiah kurds are involved with religious politics. That's a blatant act of selective information.

About kurd feyli batallions, i do think some volunteered(people in baghdad have told me that some did, because they want to protect feyli areas and shia shrines), but their exact numbers we don't know. Either way I don't know why you act so insecure about it. It's not like you're involved in supporting maliki. It's a few thousand at most in the diaspora and in middle-east. People like to throw around jash alot. The conflict isn't as polarized as some people like to say it is. And only people who can't think outside the box, throw jash out liberally. Every people on earth has it's nuanced political divisions. It's convinent to only point at groups that aren't yours. I mean shizz... if there are kurmanji kurds in the gray wolves and kemalist turkish parties, or soranis in ISIS or Sunni islamist groups, why would pro-iran/pro-maliki feylis surprise anyone? They're all small segments of each group.
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