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Jul 24 14, 8:26
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You've obviously no idea about feylis in iraq then. While overall political activism is low for feylis, there is definitely an element of pro-shiah/pro-maliki(majority arab areas aren't exactly bastions of kurdish nationalism political activity, so to speak). Maybe not in Ilam or kermanshah, but in baghdad, mandali, definitely. It's natural since they're disconnected from nationalism(lack of political activity), and i don't see why people here are upset about that. It's like saying there are no pro ISIS supporters(even though ISIS is worse than eve maliki if they had power) amongst soranis or kurmanjis, or there no pro-sunni religious kurds, or no salafi kurds. And that only shiah kurds are involved with religious politics. That's a blatant act of selective information. About kurd feyli batallions, i do think some volunteered(people in baghdad have told me that some did, because they want to protect feyli areas and shia shrines), but their exact numbers we don't know. Either way I don't know why you act so insecure about it. It's not like you're involved in supporting maliki. It's a few thousand at most in the diaspora and in middle-east. People like to throw around jash alot. The conflict isn't as polarized as some people like to say it is. And only people who can't think outside the box, throw jash out liberally. Every people on earth has it's nuanced political divisions. It's convinent to only point at groups that aren't yours. I mean shizz... if there are kurmanji kurds in the gray wolves and kemalist turkish parties, or soranis in ISIS or Sunni islamist groups, why would pro-iran/pro-maliki feylis surprise anyone? They're all small segments of each group. It's not up for debate. I have been to Baghdad quite a number of times. Infact I came to Baghdad in 2004 right after the war. Feylis were never supportive of maliki or shia blocs for that matter of fact. Feylis have a shia identity, but I would like to ask you which shia bloc did feylis support? I can tell you it's not Sadrists, nor Maliki.
Yes they are disconnected to an extent, they certainly aren't PDKists or PUKists, although there is a PUK centre in the fayli district in Baghdad and quite a number of faylis support the PUK and even PDK.
No one is upset heval, but making up things is just playing into enemy hands. Feylis in Baghdad may not be as "nationalistic" as lets say feylis in Khanaqin or Ilam, but the majority haven't lost their roots. They primarily speak Kurdish at home etc...
I've already said heval there are feylis who actually work in the police force for a living. And yes probably one or two fayli indiviuals have voluneteered to go to Karbala, but it's not because of Maliki. They hate and are scared of ISIS.
Well Brendar claimed Rudaw said feylis(200 or so) went to fight, the article makes no such claims. I can't understand sorani but I can read it's script.
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Jul 24 14, 8:31
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but I would like to ask you which shia bloc did feylis support? I can tell you it's not Sadrists, nor Maliki.
Doesn't every Shia like Ali Sistani?
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Jul 24 14, 8:45
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but I would like to ask you which shia bloc did feylis support? I can tell you it's not Sadrists, nor Maliki.
Doesn't every Shia like Ali Sistani? No but alot, but his a Marja. Not a politican. Although wrong, you can compare him to the pope in that sense.
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Out of those 200 Shias that went to Kirkuk, 5 of them were Iranian postars ( like soldiers). So for sure there were less than 200 feylis.
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Jul 24 14, 9:34
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Out of those 200 Shias that went to Kirkuk, 5 of them were Iranian postars ( like soldiers). So for sure there were less than 200 feylis. Just read the Rudaw report: http://rudaw.net/sorani/kurdistan/2207201416
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Analysis: In Search of Unity, America Loses a Dear Friend
ERBIL, South Kurdistan—In a worrying development, the South Kurdistan’s top security official is claiming that the United States is doing nothing to help the Kurds in their fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), a terrorist organization that controls much of Iraq including a 1,050-kilometer border with the semi-autonomous South Kurdistan.
"ISIS now has a lot of modern military equipment in their possession, and to fight against them I think the Peshmerga have to be much better equipped than they are," Masrour Barzani, the head of the Kurdistan Regional Government’s (KRG) National Security Council told Reuters on Saturday. "For that, the United States and the international community as a whole should feel responsible."
"We have had talks with the United States, with some of the European countries,” he added, “but no practical steps have been taken to provide assistance to the KRG especially on the military front.”
If the Syrian civil war is any indication of American willingness to assist anti-ISIS military outfits, then Iraq’s Kurds have little reason to be optimistic.
The war has been raging for three years at the cost of 170,000 lives, and ISIS has secured control of large swaths of the country. Yet US President Barack Obama’s administration has done precious little to uproot ISIS by assisting rebels affiliated with the moderate Syrian National Coalition.
While Obama recently put forward a $500 billion “train and equip” package to Congress, senior members of the House Armed Services Committee have indicated the funding won’t clear lawmakers unless the administration lobbies for it.
Adam Smith, a Democrat and the ranking member of the committee who supports the plan, was candid with defense officials. "Sell it, and if you don't, there ain't no way we're going to pass it!" he was quoted as saying.
There are other reasons to believe that Kurdish forces won’t receive support, despite the fact that they were the staunchest ally of the United States in both Gulf wars against Saddam Hussein’s Baathist regime.
With an estimated 200,000 soldiers, the Peshmerga is currently the strongest infantry force in Iraq. The United States may fear that strengthening the Kurdish military would further the region’s independence ambitions, alienate American partners in Baghdad, and interrupt the delicate process of forming a new Iraqi government.
The US State Department has made it clear that the priority should be fighting ISIS — but not at the cost of Iraq’s unity.
"A united Iraq is a stronger Iraq and the focus should be on the existential threat that all Iraqis and the people in the region face, which is the threat of (ISIS),” State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in a press conference earlier this month. “We should not give an opening to a horrific terrorist group by being divided at this critical moment."
The reality on the ground, however, is that Iraq is already divided — quite literally now that ISIS has sliced the country in two, blocking transit routes between Erbil and Baghdad.
Even before Mosul fell on June 10, the country was effectively fractured. Baghdad stopped paying Peshmerga salaries months ago and ignored repeated warnings from Erbil about ISIS activity in the north. It has also withheld the KRG’s budget for the past seven months because of disputes over the South Kurdistan independently exporting oil to Turkey.
These days, Kurdish forces are armed with outdated weapons, and are essentially fighting ISIS on the cheap. At the same time, the scope of their activity has increased dramatically: they are now tasked with defending a vast new border against a well-trained terrorist group wielding state-of-the-art American military technology that they seized in Mosul.
“This is an emergency, not an everyday crisis, and the caution that characterizes US actions often is inappropriate,” James Jeffrey, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, wrote in remarks prepared for Congress. “The costs of doing nothing significant now are greater than the risks of most actions short of committing ground troops.”
In fact, the US isn’t only “doing nothing”: it is effectively blocking the Peshmerga’s financing. Independent oil exports are the only revenue source for the isolated South Kurdistan, which is now tasked with funding the Peshmerga. Yet the United States has applied diplomatic pressure to ensure that Kurdish oil is not sold at a volume that could substitute for its allocation of the federal budget.
"Our position has long been that we don't support exports without the appropriate approval of the federal Iraqi government,” Psaki told reporters, “and certainly we do have concerns about the impact of those continuing."
American policymakers have made clear that keeping Iraq together is higher on the list of priorities than containing ISIS. Anthony Cordesman, a national security analyst at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies, suggests that unity is not a panacea.
“I think everyone is concerned that Iraq may not stay together as a single country,” he told PBS. “But the more serious problem is that having a single country where you have sectarian and ethnic groups that hate each other, that drive people who are in the minority out of their homes or kill them, is not a form of unity. It doesn’t really provide any basis for stability and development.”
If US efforts to keep Iraq together prove successful, it may cost them a dear ally in the region. Many Kurds already feel betrayed by their fickle friend. On June 3, South Kurdistan President Massoud Barzani assured the Kurdish Parliament that the international community would accept a bid for independence following a referendum.
“Those who do not support us do not oppose us,” he said.
When Al-Jazeera asked him about talks with the US two weeks later, he replied, “We hope that those who do not support us do not become our enemies,” he said.
http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/25072014
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Nineveh Governor: we are forming militias to fight against ISIS in Mosul
26.07.2014 Hawar Abdulrazaq
The governor of Nineveh Province, Atheel Nujefi has revealed the formation of militias in Mosul, set up to fight the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham (ISIS), who on June 10th took over most of the province. In a televised announcement, Nujefi – who is currently taking refuge in the South Kurdistan – announced that they have called on youths from the province to take up arms against ISIS. “We are in the process of forming a number of militias to fights against ISIS and push them out of the city [Mosul],” said Nujefi. “I’m calling on all youths from Mosul to take up arms and secure the province,” added Nujefi. The governor also explained that these groups would guarantee that no sectarian militias remain in the province.
http://basnews.com/en/News/Details/Nineveh-Governor--we-are-forming-militias-to-fight-against-ISIS-in-Mosul-/28278
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Jul 27 14, 11:00
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Nineveh Governor: we are forming militias to fight against ISIS in Mosul26.07.2014 Hawar Abdulrazaq The governor of Nineveh Province, Atheel Nujefi has revealed the formation of militias in Mosul, set up to fight the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham (ISIS), who on June 10th took over most of the province. In a televised announcement, Nujefi – who is currently taking refuge in the South Kurdistan – announced that they have called on youths from the province to take up arms against ISIS. “We are in the process of forming a number of militias to fights against ISIS and push them out of the city [Mosul],” said Nujefi. “I’m calling on all youths from Mosul to take up arms and secure the province,” added Nujefi. The governor also explained that these groups would guarantee that no sectarian militias remain in the province. http://basnews.com/en/News/Details/Nineveh-Governor--we-are-forming-militias-to-fight-against-ISIS-in-Mosul-/28278 I dont really think this will make any diffrence, but if those militias are doing little good , they can form a buffer zone
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Nothing will happen. The people are scared, they won't fight, and the youth is with ISIS.
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I still think Naqshbandi army is way better than ISIS rats.
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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I still think Naqshbandi army is way better than ISIS rats. Naqishbandi army=ISIS. 90% of ISIS are those baathist revolutionary council rats and the naqishbandi saddam fedayee subhumans. only 10% of the fighers are abu bakr al baghdadis fighters.
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After the exodus of the Christian community from Mosul following threats by the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham (ISIS), the insurgents are now allegedly threatening the Kurdish community, pushing them to leave the city. Hashm Ali, a Kurd from Mosul, plans to leave the city as soon as possible due to the threats made by ISIS to his family. “ISIS insurgents view Kurds in the city as infidels and non-Muslims, for this reason they threaten Kurdish families. They have warned Kurds to leave the city as soon as possible because Kurds are Peshmerga fight against ISIS rebels,” said Ali to BasNews. Another Kurdish citizen in Mosul Salwan Hussein said “in spite of the continuous threats of ISIS, they have given us several days to leave the city.” Islamic Cleric in Mosul Sheikh Bast Issa told BasNews: “after several hours, ISIS insurgents will make some decisions about dismissing Kurdish families in Mosul, they will ask Kurds to leave the city just like Christians without taking any belongings with themselves. The reason they made this decision is because Kurdish families help and support Peshmerga forces.”
http://basnews.com/en/News/Details/ISIS-tells-Kurdish-families-to-leave-Mosul/27520
They are even forcing feyli kurds out diyala. Sunni arabs are still baathist scum. I'll never forgive them for this.
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I still think Naqshbandi army is way better than ISIS rats.
Naqishbandi army=ISIS. 90% of ISIS are those baathist revolutionary council rats and the naqishbandi saddam fedayee subhumans. only 10% of the fighers are abu bakr al baghdadis fighters. Do you have a source for this or you just assuming!?
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Do you have a source for this or you just assuming!? How do you think ISIS took iraq so fast? It was because ISIS allied with the naqishbandi army and the revolutionary council fighters:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/13/isis-s-secret-allies.html
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All eyes have been on ISIS as the jihadist group, in a matter of days, cut Iraq in half and declared its own state in the cities it captured. With fewer than 10,000 fighters ISIS forced the retreat of the better-armed Iraqi army forces many times its size. Their incredible success on the battlefield has fed into a growing lore about the group: the small band of fanatics that can take down a country. The truth is more basic and it’s something ISIS doesn’t want to admit—they weren’t acting alone. It wasn’t having God on their side that let ISIS conquer Mosul and Tikrit with hardly a fight, analysts say. It was the other Sunni insurgent groups that were there alongside them, unacknowledged partners in the coalition. Those groups have deep organizational roots and were instrumental in the takeover but have been largely overshadowed by ISIS. The standoff in Iraq isn’t between a single militant group and the government. There is a broad coalition of Sunni groups—both nationalist and Islamist—who had been plotting against Iraq’s Shia government for years before ISIS's rise provided the chance to strike. ISIS and its partners are unnatural allies. Maintaining their unity was the key to their early success, and is the only way they can hold the ground they have taken, but that incentive may prove to be weaker than the force of their natural hostilities. “ISIS control in Mosul is contingent on political alliances they have made with the Baathists and the tribal groups,” said Brian Fishman, a fellow at the New America Foundation, who has been following ISIS since the group’s early days during the Iraq war. “This alliance marching on Baghdad is not a natural one,” Fishman added. “We can understand how it was put together in opposition to the government but what exactly is holding it together, and how sturdy it is, is an open question,” he said. The anonymity of the non-ISIS members in the anti-government faction wasn’t by choice. Some have used social media to broadcast their war exploits and document their control of conquered territories. It could be an early sign of fissures in the coalition that beat back Baghdad’s army. - See more at: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/13/isis-s-secret-allies.html#sthash.NvMQZcKr.dpuf
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ERBIL, Iraq — Meeting with the American ambassador some years ago in Baghdad, Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki detailed what he believed was the latest threat of a coup orchestrated by former officers of Saddam Hussein’s Baath Party.
“Don’t waste your time on this coup by the Baathists,” the ambassador, Zalmay Khalilzad, chided him, dismissing his conspiracy theories as fantasy.
Now, though, with Iraq facing its gravest crisis in years, as Sunni insurgents have swept through northern and central Iraq, Mr. Maliki’s claims about Baathist plots have been at least partly vindicated. While fighters for the extremist Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, once an offshoot of Al Qaeda, have taken on the most prominent role in the new insurgency, they have done so in alliance with a deeply rooted network of former loyalists to Saddam Hussein. Continue reading the main story
The involvement of the Baathists helps explain why just a few thousand Islamic State in Iraq and Syria fighters, many of them fresh off the battlefields of Syria, have been able to capture so much territory so quickly. It sheds light on the complexity of the forces aligned against Baghdad in the conflict — not just the foreign-influenced group known as ISIS, but many homegrown groups, too. And with the Baathists’ deep social and cultural ties to many areas now under insurgent control, it stands as a warning of how hard it might be for the government to regain territory and restore order. Photo Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri Credit Karim Sahib/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
Many of the former regime loyalists, including intelligence officers and Republican Guard soldiers — commonly referred to as the “deep state” in the Arab world — belong to a group called the Men of the Army of the Naqshbandia Order, often referred to as J.R.T.N., the initials of its Arabic name. The group announced its establishment in 2007, not long after the execution of Mr. Hussein, and its putative leader, Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, was one of Mr. Hussein’s most trusted deputies and the highest-ranking figure of the old regime who avoided capture by the Americans.
Referring to the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria’s fighters, Michael Knights, an analyst at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who has researched the Naqshbandia group, said, “They couldn’t have seized a fraction of what they did without coordinated alliances with other Sunni groups.”
In some areas under militant control, including areas around Mosul, Kirkuk and Tikrit, he said, “there are definitely pockets where the Naqshbandias are wearing the pants.” Continue reading the main story Graphic: In Iraq Crisis, a Tangle of Alliances and Enmities
Mr. Douri, the king of clubs in decks of cards given to American forces in 2003 to identify the most-wanted regime leaders, is a mysterious figure, so furtive he was even declared dead in 2005. It is believed that he is still alive today — he would be in his early 70s — although even that is uncertain. After the American invasion he was said to have fled to Syria, where he reportedly worked with Syrian intelligence to restore the Baath Party within Iraq and led an insurgency from there that mainly targeted American interests. Continue reading the main story Continue reading the main story
“He’s a great totem of the old regime,” Mr. Knights said. “You need that kind of individual to keep the flame going.”
The role the Baathists are playing in the current uprising justifies not only Mr. Maliki’s suspicions, but also the longstanding concerns of American intelligence officers. As American forces were winding down operations in Iraq, they frequently predicted that the Baathists were well positioned to exploit Sunni grievances and mount a violent challenge to the government. Continue reading the main story Video
The goals of of the three main groups in Iraq — Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish — as the country threatens to split apart along sectarian lines. Video Credit By Christian Roman on Publish Date June 13, 2014. Image CreditReuters
Analysts say the former regime figures, whose group combines strands of Islamic thought with notions of Arab nationalism typical of Baath ideology, are bedfellows with the Islamist extremists in one respect: Both sides are determined to restore Sunni rule to Iraq and rid the country of what they see as the pernicious influence of Iran, which like Iraq has a Shiite majority. Like the extremists, the former regime figures have won sympathy from ordinary Sunnis who are alienated by Mr. Maliki’s sectarian policies.
“Our problem is with Maliki, and we will take him down and anyone that stands next to him,” said Abu Abid al-Rahman, a Naqshbandia leader in KRG, in an interview.
He added: “We want to control the land all the way to Baghdad to take down Maliki’s government and to end the Iranian influence in Iraq. What is happening in Iraq today is a result of Maliki’s sectarian policy in Iraq.”
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Six months ago, as the Islamic State in Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) sowed chaos and terror in Syria's civil war, an anonymous Twitter user posted a tantalizing promise.
"The first account to expose the secrets of ISIS and who runs it.. Who is al-Baghdadi? Have you seen his picture? The names of his council? What are his plans? Coming soon…" read the first tweet from @wikibaghdady on Dec. 10.
ISIS and its infamous leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi are now under even more scrutiny after it captured a string of cities in Iraq and closed in on the capital of Baghdad earlier this month. Amid fears that the country may disintegrate without outside help, the U.S. is sending military advisors to help reverse the militants' advance.
While the world scrambles to understand ISIS's military effectiveness and shocking brutality, @wikibaghdady has kept on tweeting fascinating allegations about the group's murky alliances and dubious motives.
Various theories have been posited as to who is behind the account, still active as of Jun. 13. Whether a disillusioned insider, a defector to rival jihadi group Jabhat al-Nusra (which gets very sympathetic treatment), or a group of people trying to undermine ISIS, the account has nearly 40,000 followers. Analyst Hassan Hassan told the Daily Beast that at least some of the revelations appear to be accurate, while others "should be taken with a pinch of salt."
Here are the most stunning allegations from the account's nearly one thousand tweets.
ISIS’s Mysterious Leader Is a Fake baghdadi Iraq released this photo of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi on Jan. 29, 2014. (AP Photo/Iraqi Interior Ministry, File)
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's name is not the only phony thing about him, according to @wikibaghdady. The account claims ISIS's mysterious leader also faked a PhD, is not from Baghdad (as his nom de guerre implies) but the northern city of Samarra, and his real name is Ibrahim Awwad Ibrahim.
Contrary to al-Baghdadi's image as a fearless mastermind, the posts describe the infamous chief as scrambling out of obscurity to lead the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), the predecessor of ISIS, after the group's top two leaders were killed in 2010. "The news was a surprise to everyone!" @wikibaghdady says about al-Baghdadi's nomination for the leadership by Haji Bakr, a former Baathist party member and colonel in Saddam Hussein's army who joined ISI. According to @wikibaghadi, al-Baghdadi "worried that he wouldn’t be able to handle all this responsibility," but Haji Bakr set him up with a tight circle of loyalists and a new military strategy.
And He’s In The Pocket Of The Baathists
Al-Baghdadi's mentor Haji Bakr first joined ISI after 2006, promptly grew a religious-looking beard, devised a military strategy, and installed colleagues from his time as an army colonel under Saddam Hussein in top leadership positions, @wikibaghdady says. As ISI's membership was filled up by former Baathist military officers, the group moved away from global jihadi networks like al-Qaeda, New York-based political risk consultancy bureau the Soufan Group explains. Al Monitor adds that ISI's tactics also shifted under al-Baghdadi's leadership from attention-grabbing terrorist attacks to a more conventional military approach of capturing and holding strategic territory. baath party flag iraq saddam Baath party members parade in Baghdad, Feb. 8, 2002. (RAMZI HAIDAR/AFP/Getty Images).
The @wikibaghdady account clearly wants to discredit the ISIS leader by casting suspicion on his group's Islamist credentials, perhaps adding fuel to the theory that the account is run by rivals competing for the same support base. There is no doubt that pragmatic alliances with various Sunni militant groups have helped ISIS with crucial military expertise, as well as greater legitimacy with a population often wary of al-Qaeda-linked groups and their foreign fighters. But the complexities of the political, religious and tribal allegiances in Iraq today defy the simple portrait of a Baathist puppet master controlling hapless jihadists.
Where The Money’s Coming From
ISIS is "among the wealthiest terrorist groups on the planet," an American counterterrorism official told the New York Times this week. According to a local governor, the militants potted a gold mine earlier in June by looting millions of dollars from banks in Iraqi cities they captured. The Daily Beast reports that the group has also raked in cash by fundraising from "armchair jihadists" -- wealthy individuals in countries like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar who back militants overseas, sometimes with the tacit support of their governments.
The @wikibaghdady account focuses on another funding stream that could make ISIS increasingly wealthy, though unpopular -- extorting civilians in areas under its control. The group's protection racket in the Iraqi city of Mosul netted $8 million each month, according to one 2013 estimate. In addition, @wikibaghdady claims ISIS has spent several years seizing the property of religious minorities, taking over state resources, and threatening to blow up businesses that didn't pay monthly dues. The account alleges that the ISIS's ability to pay recruits is a major attraction of the group.
American Condemnation Is A Badge Of Pride nusra leader Iraq released this photo of al-Golani on Dec. 25, 2013. (AP Photo/Iraqi Government, File)
The U.S. designated al-Baghdadi a global terrorist in 2011, offering $10 million for information leading to his capture. According to @wikibaghdady, the designation is considered a status symbol by the group. When a fellow jihadi was added to the terror list in 2012, al-Baghdadi's professional jealousy precipitated a crisis in the jihadist movement, the account alleges.
The feud dates from the start of the Syrian revolution. Troubled that many of his fighters left Iraq to take up arms in Syria, al-Baghdadi set up a a new jihadist group in Syria called Jabhat al-Nusra and he forbade Iraqis to join it.
But al-Baghdadi felt threatened when Nusra leader Abu Mohammed al-Golani began to outshine him, @wikibaghdady says, adding that ISIS leaders became terrified when the U.S. added Jabhat al-Nusra to its terror list and al-Golani to the most wanted list in Syria.
Why They Really Got Thrown Out Of Al-Qaeda
According to @wikibaghdady, it was this power struggle and al-Baghdadi's insubordination to al-Qaeda's top leaders that got them thrown out of the global jihadist network in February 2014.
A year earlier, al-Baghdadi decided he wanted to unify Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State of Iraq into a formal group under his command. When Jabhat al-Nusra refused to take part, he went ahead and announced the merger anyway in April that year. Al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri tried to mediate, but al-Baghdadi paid no notice, @wikibaghdady says. Soon, al-Zawahiri had had enough, disavowed the group, and full-blown war broke out between ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra. The infighting was disastrous for opposition forces in Syria, who claim that ISIS was deliberately encouraged by Assad's regime, and that the group continues to cooperate with government forces fighting opposition brigades.
The Baathists Are Back
As 2013 ended, al-Baghdadi was keen to return to Iraq from his hideout in Syria, @wikibaghdady says. In January 2014, his group captured the strategic Iraqi city of Fallujah. In June, ISIS pushed deeper inside Iraq. It captured large swathes of territory in the center and south of the country and got a hold of border posts with Syria and Jordan, giving the group effective control over a large part of territory across Syria and Iraq. fallujah islamic state A gunman holds his weapon in Fallujah, Jan. 21, 2014 photo. (AP Photo).
From the beginning, the group has fought in loose coalition with several other Sunni factions, including a Baathist-Sufi militia called the Army of the Men of the Naqshbandi Order. Previously both a rival and a sponsor of ISIS, the Naqshabandi Army is headed by another former Saddam Hussein lieutenant, Izzat al-Duri. As the groups advanced towards Baghdad in early June, @wikibaghdady claimed ISIS and the Naqshabandi Army struck a deal in which al-Duri's group took charge of the the military strategy, and ISIS would allow the Baathists to take over the Iraqi government if Baghdad fell.
The alliance appeared to fray at the weekend, when ISIS fighters and al-Duri's militants turned on each other in deadly clashes. "New stuff coming soon!" @wikibaghdady's latest tweet promised a few weeks ago. Nearly 40,000 people are waiting for an update.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/26/isis-wikibaghdady_n_5512422.html
The iraq army retreat from mosul was done mostly because over 70-80% of the army there were sunni arabs who weren't loyal to nouri al malikis goverment. And they had contact with naqishbandis and other baathist organizations, before the retreat. It was a planned insurrection, between isis and baathists and possibly other sponsors. It wasn't natural that a force of less than 1500 take an entire city with 30 000 soldiers. It was planned. They defected or ran.
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But it's hardly a secret, it's likely abu bakr bagdadi himself was a baathist pre-2003. I doubt his "religious" in any sense. The Baathists hate Shia Arabs and Sunni Kurds because to them they are all "Iranian". As for Salafists because they are "dirty kafirs".
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Naqshbani isn't Baathist they are not angels but they are not as extreme as ISIS
it's like me comparing Badr militia to Ahel El Haq rats.
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Naqshbani isn't Baathist they are not angels but they are not as extreme as ISIS
it's like me comparing Badr militia to Ahel El Haq rats. Their leader is izzat al douri. He's literally the only saddam era baathist leader left. They're just ex-baathists and arab nationalists posing as some religious sufi order.
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Jaysh al-Tariqa al-Naqshbandia (JRTN) is a large and prominent Sufi insurgent group in Iraq. JRTN is named after the Naqshbandi Sufi movement, which was founded in 1389 by Baha al-din Naqshband. [3] Beginning during Ottoman rule, the Naqshabadi order constituted more of a political association or patronage network than a religious association. Through the order, its members built connections with like-minded political and business leaders. [4] Due to Sufism’s peaceful and apolitical reputation, it was tolerated under the Saddam Hussein regime. [5] The Naqshabadi order recruited Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri, who became its patron sometime during the late 1970s and early 1980s. Al-Duri used his position in Hussein’s government to create a bond between the Baath Party and the JRTN during the Iran-Iraq War, thereby expanding the group’s popularity and solidifying his own power and influence. [6] JRTN was formally established in December 2006 following the political disarray in the Baath party after the execution of Saddam Hussein; the Baath party split, with some members following Muhammad Younis al-Ahmed, who was connected with the Al-Awda movement, and others following al-Duri and the JRTN. The JNRT first acted as to protect Naqshbandi order members from persecution at the hands of extremists such as AQI. The group also rejected AQI tactics that led to the death of many Sunnis and Iraqis, and thus decided to form their own group to fight Coalition forces. [7]
From 2007-2011, JRTN fought for the withdrawal of foreign troops from Iraq and claimed responsibility for attacks involving mortars, road bombs, and rockets, as well as larger-scale attacks against Coalition forces. However, JRTN’s ideology remained nationalistic; as an official spokesman for JRTN stated on Al-Zawra Iraqi channel, "we [the JRTN] fight for the integrity and unity of Iraq, land and people, to maintain its Arab and Islamic identity," fighting for nationalist, rather than Sufi, ideals.
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t is becoming clear that members of JRTN have been providing critical assistance to ISIS’s operations in Iraq. [16] Al-Douri himself may be acting as a commander of ISIS forces. ISIS success in capturing Iraqi cities was dependent on the military expertise and local connections brought by JRTN members.
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Sheikh Abdullah Mustafa al-Naqshbandi (Unknown to Unknown): Leader. [19] Wathiq Alwan al Amiri (Unknown to December 12, 2009): Media Coordinator; arrested by Iraqi and US forces in Tikrit Iraq December 12, 2009.[20] Abd al Majid Hadithi (Unknown to December 12, 2009): Former Media Manager, Propaganda Distributor; arrested by Iraqi and US forces in Tikrit Iraq December 12, 2009.[21] Muhanned Muhammed Abd al Jabbar al Rawi (Unknown to December 12, 2009): Media Gatherer, Producer, Show-caser; arrested by Iraqi and US forces in Tikrit Iraq December 12, 2009.[22] Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri, aka Naqshbandi Sheikh. (December 2006 to Present): Leader of JRTN and HCJL. While there has been a significant lack of information concerning al-Duri following the 2003 Invasion of Iraq, he is apparently still alive and active.[23]
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JRTN stems from one of the largest most influential Sufi orders, the Naqshbandi order, founded by Baha al-din Naqshband in 1389. [24] Though most Sufis are pacifists, JRTN is a nationalistic group that supports the interests of former Baath Party members[25] and has hoped to ultimately reinstate a regime led by the Baathist party. [26] Indeed, JRTN stated in 2007 that it would be willing to negotiate with Coalition forces and the US but only if they would agree to restore some 600,000 security personnel to their jobs and the redact all laws and governmental changes established since the 2003 invasion. [27] JRTN stated that all Coalition forces, including individuals, equipment and supplies, were legitimate targets at any time or place in Iraq; however, Iraqis were not considered targets unless they fight with Coalition forces. [28]
they're just a bunch of baathist crooks pretending to be a religious order. They might aswell call themselves fedayee saddam, which is what majority of them are, along with baath army reserves and baathist officers who survived baathist purges. They're about as Sufi, as me claiming to be öcalan writing under pseudonym. What kind of sufi order has military experience and knows which sections of the iraqi army are vulnerable to desertions? What kind of sufi order, has former baathi head as a leader? Which sufi order has an alliance with ISIS.
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Thanks i was thinking about some other group then....
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inH-_orfnJ4
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Naqshbani isn't Baathist they are not angels but they are not as extreme as ISIS
it's like me comparing Badr militia to Ahel El Haq rats. Alan the word "Naqshbandi" is simply a front to them. The actual Naqshbandis are Sufis, infact ISIS are opposed to the actual religious order, since they are Sufis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naqshbandi
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Urgent and very serious: has social media important subject the Iranian side was able to detect the identity of the leader of the Islamic State (daash). Where the subject matter that the real name of Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi was "Simon Elliott" from father and mother Jewish. The so-called "Eliot" was recruited in the Israeli Mossad for a year during which he fought many trials and tests and field to be eligible to lead a devastating thought of Arabic and Islamic. This and the leaks allegedly attributed to the roles of Snowden, and published by newspapers and news websites, the leader of the "Islamic State," Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi Al-cooperation with us and British intelligence and to create a terrorist organization capable of attracting extremists from all over the world in one place.
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probably desperate Persian Press tv crap
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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I thought Naqshbandi militia were Kurdish like Ansar Al Sunna
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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I thought Naqshbandi militia were Kurdish like Ansar Al Sunna Na dude, I don't even know why they are called "Naqshbandis", the actual ones are a bunch of north indian muslim sufis. Who knows.
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