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| jjmuneer | Aug 13 14, 10:48 Post #1751 |
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WHAT FKERS: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/radical-students-seen-handing-out-leaflets-on-oxford-street-encouraging-british-muslims-to-join-isis-9665280.html Radical students hand out leaflets on Oxford Street encouraging British Muslims to join Isis How the fk they doing this on oxford street? This is liberalist democracy for you.... |
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| Ali Alqosh | Aug 13 14, 10:48 Post #1752 |
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The siteowner is retarded. He formulates himself so baadly. He is a kurd probably but he formulates himself in such a way that you woild think he is grom the sammar tribe |
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| jjmuneer | Aug 13 14, 11:04 Post #1753 |
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A dog has more humanity than ISIS: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=821360404562795 |
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| Xoybun | Aug 13 14, 11:05 Post #1754 |
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These are Assyrians killed way before. The only picture having dead Kurds is the one with about 10 dead children. That was in Mt. Shingal because of malnutrition. |
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| jjmuneer | Aug 13 14, 11:25 Post #1755 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PfCj--0_S8&list=UUpwvZwUam-URkxB7g4USKpg |
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| lashgare | Aug 14 14, 12:57 Post #1756 |
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Maybe I should've formulated it a little bit clearly. My point is that while US has created fifth columnist shadow armies in the past. In the middle-east... they haven't been involved with creating ISIS. It's saudi arabias work. America is a powerful country, mostly because of past circumstances and victories. But they're not geared towards and able to create salafists and control them, that's something saudi arabia specializes in. Al-aqaeda and the taliban was co-joint project between pakistan and saudi arabia. Same with the arab spring. Saudi arabia has alot of money invested in US politics. Hence they control the strings and why obama has a obtuse policy towards obvious anti-american movements. Lots of US policy makers are incredibly incompetent about foreign policy. Edited by lashgare, Aug 14 14, 1:04.
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| ALAN | Aug 15 14, 1:30 Post #1757 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxX_THjtXOw |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Aug 15 14, 1:31 Post #1758 |
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IS talking about Sykse Picot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxX_THjtXOw |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Xoybun | Aug 15 14, 2:07 Post #1759 |
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:smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead :smackhead Mate, I don't know what you smoke but USA and Saudi Arabia are not good allies as you might think. Saudi Arabia has upper hand against USA. If Saudi stopped oil business USA would crash after 2 days. Saudia Gawad doesn't need to invest in USA, they give orders from their deserts. But Saudi won't do this because its survival depends on money from US and A in the long term. Edited by Xoybun, Aug 15 14, 2:08.
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| Xoybun | Aug 15 14, 2:07 Post #1760 |
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| Xoybun | Aug 15 14, 2:09 Post #1761 |
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If USA found a way to generate more energy than that which comes from the deserts of Arabs, they would dump Saudi Arabia. Saudi would lose all it's influence. I hope USA finds a way, this will make Kurdistan un-important for our enemies. |
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| lashgare | Aug 15 14, 3:29 Post #1762 |
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No, i'm aware that saudi arabia doesn't love them and USA is not permanently attached to saudi-arabia. US doesn't love israel either. Thats not how geopolitics work. It's more about economics more than anything. And yes... saudi arabia and saudi buisnessesmen and magnates has invested more than 100 billion in american buisnesses, politics and media. This is why US media and politicians never seriously criticize saudi-arabia. Saudi-arabia, turkey, various arab states, pakistan(even though they do not love US) have cooperated with US lots of times. Israel is also not really important to US strategic interests(Israel has nothing to give, save for bases in the levant, which US already has via jordan, kuwait, saudi arabia ) but since pro-israel jews, pro-israel christians and pro-israeli buisnesses are heavily invested in american politics and they have a strong lobby, US is always siding with Israel and promoting israeli interests, it's not some coincidence, it's pretty transparent. It isn't just saudi oil that US needs, Saudis have a lobby in washington that directly applies their influence there. During the afghan war f.ex, Saudi-arabia bought billions in arms from US and other countries and provided them to the mujahideen, (mujahideen stingers were financed by Saudi-arabia) while pakistan delivered them. We need a lobby like this in US and EU too. It's not my opinion, these are studied out facts. I have no idea what you're criticizing. Edited by lashgare, Aug 15 14, 3:39.
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| ALAN | Aug 15 14, 3:32 Post #1763 |
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Iraqi shia militias, IA vs IS rats http://www.nrttv.com/photo-story-details.aspx?jimare=2061 |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| jjmuneer | Aug 15 14, 4:15 Post #1764 |
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Alan that treaty was re-amended by Treaty of Lusanne. |
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| jjmuneer | Aug 15 14, 7:00 Post #1765 |
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Iraqi PM Maliki 'to step aside' Breaking news Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki announces he will step aside in favour of Haider al-Abadi, state TV says http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28798033 |
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| Kurdistano | Aug 15 14, 2:39 Post #1766 |
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Well I googled about it, you know how he was released? He was in Guantanamo bay and was released just like dozens of your "innocent Arabs" who falsly were put into Guantanamo and after world wide pressure from "humanists" he got free with a dozen of other potential terrorists. He went to Syria was first part of the extremely hetegenous FSA. Until the alliance broke and IS gave birth. |
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| ALAN | Aug 15 14, 4:26 Post #1767 |
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IED blows up in the face of IS rats lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlD8zSVpSw4#t=31 |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Aug 16 14, 1:00 Post #1768 |
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Then go form your region and GTFO of Kurdistan |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Zagros | Aug 16 14, 11:31 Post #1769 |
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US Jets Strike Multiple IS Positions Around Mosul ERBIL, South Kurdistan—US fighter jets launched a bombing campaign against positions of the Islamic State (IS) near Mosul dam and surrounding towns shortly after midnight on Friday, Rudaw reporter said. The jets have bombed IS positions in four areas near the dam as well as in Rabia crossing, Mahmoudia, Telskouf, Zumar and Tilkef. A Peshmerga eyewitness said this is the heaviest US bombing of militant positions since the start of airstrikes against the Islamist group last week. Rudaw reporter Hevidar Ahmed said that a gas station used by IS militants to fuel their vehicles and a major junction leading to Mosul were targeted by the US fighter jets. Several hummers were destroyed in the first round of the bombing campaign. Ahmed said that IS militants have abandoned their posts under the heavy bombardment. The bombing campaign encompasses an area of more than 32 kilomiters. The bombing is continuing at the moment and Kurdish Peshmerga forces are expected to launch a ground assault to retake areas lost to the IS earlier this month including the Yezidi town of Shingal. http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/150820141 |
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| Zagros | Aug 16 14, 1:31 Post #1770 |
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UN Sanctions Bolster Global Efforts against Islamists CHICAGO, – Efforts against Islamic State (IS) militants stepped up a notch on Friday with political gains in Baghdad, more foreign military support for Kurds and new UN Security Council sanctions against six men for recruiting or funding foreign fighters in Iraq and Syria. The 15-member UN council unanimously adopted a resolution against al Qaeda's Syrian wing, Nusra Front, and the Islamic State militants who have declared a caliphate across Iraq and Syria and recently turned their blitzkrieg holy war on religious minorities in Kurdish zones. Britain’s UN ambassador Mark Lyall Grant said sanctions hit six Islamist leaders and foreign financial backers. The document “tackles the funding and financing of these terrorist groups” by “choking off recruitment and in particular the supply of foreign fighters”, he said. The document uses fiery diplomatic language and “deplores and condemns” IS and its “violent extremist ideology, and its continued gross, systematic and widespread abuses of human rights and violations of international humanitarian law”. It lists six people for international travel bans, asset freezes and arms embargos, including IS spokesman Abu Muhammad al-Adnani. Other additions are Abdelrahman Mouhamad Zafir al Dabidi al Jahani, Hajjaj Bin Fahd Al Ajmi, Said Arif, Abdul Mohsen Abdallah Ibrahim al Charekh and Hamid Hamad Hamid al-Ali. Dr Najib Ghadbian, the Syrian Coalition’s UN envoy, praised a “useful step to tackling the threat” from IS, a Sunni Muslim force – also known as ISIS and ISIL – which is strengthened by foreign fighters and US weapons that were seized during battlefield victories against Iraqi forces. “The Syrian Coalition calls for targeted airstrikes in Syria. We are seeing their impact in Iraq. But they will not succeed in defeating the threat if ISIS is allowed to grow, train and regroup in Syria,” Ghadbian said. “Moderate forces need the means to hold ground, protect the civilian population, govern and provide services. Moderates are the credible alternative to extremist rule.” UN efforts to staunch the Islamic State’s money flows add to the military pressure against IS. US warplanes continue bombarding its forces while an emergency European Union meeting in Brussels opened the door for more members of the 28-group to arm embattled Kurdish forces. Meanwhile in Baghdad, the new Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi sought to form a government that was capable of orchestrating the recapture of IS-held territory, following the decision of his divisive predecessor Nouri Maliki to accept a changeover. http://rudaw.net/english/world/150820143 |
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| Zagros | Aug 16 14, 6:28 Post #1771 |
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Sunni tribal leaders offer to battle Islamic State if Baghdad makes concessions IRBIL — Leaders of Iraq’s Sunni Muslim tribes threatened Friday to rebel against the Islamic State, the first indication that a change of government in Baghdad might allow a new prime minister to rally the country’s divided ethnic and religious groups against the Islamist extremists. But the Sunni offer to battle the militants came with strings _ possible autonomy and the withdrawal of Iraqi military forces from Sunni areas _ that would be difficult for a Shiite-led government to grant, and Shiite politicians in Baghdad showed little enthusiasm. One, Dhiaa al Asadi, a member of Parliament loyal to cleric Moqtada al Sadr, called the Sunni proposal “very exaggerated and unrealistic.” U.S. officials have predicted since the Islamic State began its sweep through much of central, western and KRG, often with the collaboration of Sunni tribes, that a more conciliatory government in Baghdad, coupled with harsh rule imposed by the Islamists, would move disaffected Sunnis to rebel. That’s one reason the U.S. pushed so hard for Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki to resign in favor of a replacement who would be more disposed to offer concessions to Sunnis and Kurds. That happened Thursday, with Maliki endorsing a fellow member of the Dawa party, Haider al Abadi, to succeed him. Then Friday came the first suggestion that the U.S. theory might prove accurate: an impromptu televised speech by one of the leading Sunni tribal leaders, Ali Hatem, the head of the Dulaim tribe who has sought refuge in Irbil, the capital of Iraq’s autonomous Kurdish zone, from an arrest warrant issued by the Baghdad government charging him with treason. Hatem, whose Dulaim clan is the largest in Anbar province, said tens of thousands of Sunni tribesmen and other anti-government groups now supporting the Islamic State would change their loyalties if the new government in Baghdad offered something in return. He said that the Islamic State includes thousands of non-Iraqis who could easily be defeated by Iraq’s much larger complex of Sunni tribes. All the new government of Prime Minister-designate Abadi must do, Hatem said, is end Iraqi army and Shiite militia activities in Sunni areas, limit government and American airstrikes to Islamic State targets only, and hold a referendum that would grant Sunnis autonomy from the Shiite-led government in Baghdad. “We will fight them once you return our rights and remove the Maliki militias,” Hatem said. “Do not worry about Daash,” he said, using a derogatory Arabic acronym for the Islamic State. “We are prepared to cooperate and address this issue and you will see the results on the ground. Daash formed because of the sectarian policies of Nouri al Maliki, and it will be no problem for the tribes of Iraq to remove them if we are supported.” A second offer of rebellion came from Anbar province in Iraq’s west, where 25 major tribes announced to the French Agence France-Presse news service that they would take up arms against the Islamic State after the group “spilled the blood” of tribal members in a series of previously unreported clashes. “This popular revolution was agreed on with all the tribes that want to fight ISIS, which spilled our blood,” the agency quoted Sheikh Abdel-Jabbar Abu Risha as saying. The Abu Risha tribe was a key participant in the American-backed Awakening Councils, a successful attempt by the tribes to push their onetime allies in al Qaida in Iraq out of Anbar in 2007. The Islamic State, the successor to al Qaida in Iraq, took control of most of the province in December. Other media reports said that clashes northwest of the Anbar provincial capital of Ramadi between the Islamic State and the tribes had killed at least 12 militants, according to police officials quoted in the local media. Significant questions, however, remain about how much actual support Hatem and his tribal colleagues still have over the tribes in places like Anbar, Salahuddin and Nineveh provinces _ Sunni-dominated parts of Iraq where the Islamic State has dominated since June 9, when its forces overwhelmed Mosul, Iraq’s second largest city and the capital of Nineveh. Many tribesmen have sworn loyalty to the Islamic State, and whether they would really rebel is less clear. The Islamic State has shown itself ready and able to violently suppress dissent among the tribes in other areas of Syria and Iraq that it controls. A recent revolt by a tribe in Deir el Zour province in Syria ended after the Islamic State captured the ringleaders, beheaded some and crucified others, and then posted videos of mass executions on the Internet to make certain the price of rebellion was known. The Islamic State also is much better armed than the tribes, with vast amounts of heavy weaponry, worth billions, looted from Iraqi and Syrian government stockpiles. A tribal uprising almost certainly would require the direct military support of the Baghdad government or even American ground and air forces, an unlikely prospect. Hatem also appears to have made a political blunder by adding to his demand a call for Maliki to face criminal charges for his attacks on Sunni population centers. Shiite leaders were openly dismissive. Asadi, the Shiite member of Parliament, pointed out that Hatem faces treason charges and “is not in good standing with the government.” “It is better for Mr. Ali Hatem to sit with his tribes and nominate someone to speak for them” in Parliament, Asadi said. Another Shiite lawmaker, Ali al Fayeh, laughed when a reporter described Hatem’s demands, adding that Hatem should work through Parliament to resolve the dispute. “He is out of official power. And he’s wanted, so his speech is worthless,” said Fayeh, who is a member of the State of Law coalition, the same as Maliki and Abadi. Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/08/15/236669/sunni-tribal-leaders-offer-to.html?sp=/99/117/#storylink=cpy Edited by Zagros, Aug 16 14, 7:08.
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| Zagros | Aug 16 14, 11:21 Post #1772 |
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Iraqi Forces Take Back Ramadi The deputy chief of Anbar’s Provincial Council said Iraqi forces are in control of Ramadi and most foreign fighters have retreated from their positions. Fasil Esaw, deputy chief for Anbar’s Provincial Council, told Rudaw, “According to information we have obtained, all non-Iraqi ISIS members that were fighting the Iraqi security forces have withdrawn from their bases, and have left Iraq through the Syrian border.” He added, “The city of Ramadi is under the control of the security forces and the situation is safe and calm.” He said Tamim, Hamziya and Abussiya areas of Anbar province are still under IS control, and “clashes between the security forces and IS (fighters) are continuing in these areas.” The reported retreated by Islamic State (IS/formerly known as ISIS) militants came after the governor of Anbar province, Ahmed Khalaf al-Dulaimi, told Reuters on Thursday that the US military had promised to provide air support and intelligence sharing to stop IS advances in Anbar. IS has declared the establishment of an Islamic state after seizing Iraq’s second largest city of Mosul in June. Sunni insurgents have controlled large areas of Anbar province since earlier this year. http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/16082014 |
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| kurdishpatriot | Aug 16 14, 11:31 Post #1773 |
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wow... Ramadi? That is a big thing isnt it? |
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#PROMOTEWOMENRIGHTS "shengal bo ezdi ya", Ezidi namerin, HATA ARAB NAMAYEN NEK SHENGAL! "A society can never be free without women's liberation" - Abdullah Ocalan | |
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| Zagros | Aug 16 14, 11:35 Post #1774 |
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Every iraqi success is a big thing.
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| lashgare | Aug 16 14, 11:42 Post #1775 |
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Let these dogs have their autonomy, so we can have peace already. Autonomy will backfire on them, since they don't have any resources, unlike KRG and shiah-baghdad. Also it will allow us to get rid of the arabs with permanent residence in KRG. Edited by lashgare, Aug 16 14, 11:45.
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