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Sunni tribal leaders offer to battle Islamic State if Baghdad makes concessions

IRBIL — Leaders of Iraq’s Sunni Muslim tribes threatened Friday to rebel against the Islamic State, the first indication that a change of government in Baghdad might allow a new prime minister to rally the country’s divided ethnic and religious groups against the Islamist extremists.

But the Sunni offer to battle the militants came with strings _ possible autonomy and the withdrawal of Iraqi military forces from Sunni areas _ that would be difficult for a Shiite-led government to grant, and Shiite politicians in Baghdad showed little enthusiasm. One, Dhiaa al Asadi, a member of Parliament loyal to cleric Moqtada al Sadr, called the Sunni proposal “very exaggerated and unrealistic.”

U.S. officials have predicted since the Islamic State began its sweep through much of central, western and KRG, often with the collaboration of Sunni tribes, that a more conciliatory government in Baghdad, coupled with harsh rule imposed by the Islamists, would move disaffected Sunnis to rebel. That’s one reason the U.S. pushed so hard for Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki to resign in favor of a replacement who would be more disposed to offer concessions to Sunnis and Kurds.

That happened Thursday, with Maliki endorsing a fellow member of the Dawa party, Haider al Abadi, to succeed him.

Then Friday came the first suggestion that the U.S. theory might prove accurate: an impromptu televised speech by one of the leading Sunni tribal leaders, Ali Hatem, the head of the Dulaim tribe who has sought refuge in Irbil, the capital of Iraq’s autonomous Kurdish zone, from an arrest warrant issued by the Baghdad government charging him with treason.

Hatem, whose Dulaim clan is the largest in Anbar province, said tens of thousands of Sunni tribesmen and other anti-government groups now supporting the Islamic State would change their loyalties if the new government in Baghdad offered something in return. He said that the Islamic State includes thousands of non-Iraqis who could easily be defeated by Iraq’s much larger complex of Sunni tribes.

All the new government of Prime Minister-designate Abadi must do, Hatem said, is end Iraqi army and Shiite militia activities in Sunni areas, limit government and American airstrikes to Islamic State targets only, and hold a referendum that would grant Sunnis autonomy from the Shiite-led government in Baghdad.

“We will fight them once you return our rights and remove the Maliki militias,” Hatem said.

“Do not worry about Daash,” he said, using a derogatory Arabic acronym for the Islamic State. “We are prepared to cooperate and address this issue and you will see the results on the ground. Daash formed because of the sectarian policies of Nouri al Maliki, and it will be no problem for the tribes of Iraq to remove them if we are supported.”

A second offer of rebellion came from Anbar province in Iraq’s west, where 25 major tribes announced to the French Agence France-Presse news service that they would take up arms against the Islamic State after the group “spilled the blood” of tribal members in a series of previously unreported clashes.

“This popular revolution was agreed on with all the tribes that want to fight ISIS, which spilled our blood,” the agency quoted Sheikh Abdel-Jabbar Abu Risha as saying.

The Abu Risha tribe was a key participant in the American-backed Awakening Councils, a successful attempt by the tribes to push their onetime allies in al Qaida in Iraq out of Anbar in 2007. The Islamic State, the successor to al Qaida in Iraq, took control of most of the province in December.

Other media reports said that clashes northwest of the Anbar provincial capital of Ramadi between the Islamic State and the tribes had killed at least 12 militants, according to police officials quoted in the local media.

Significant questions, however, remain about how much actual support Hatem and his tribal colleagues still have over the tribes in places like Anbar, Salahuddin and Nineveh provinces _ Sunni-dominated parts of Iraq where the Islamic State has dominated since June 9, when its forces overwhelmed Mosul, Iraq’s second largest city and the capital of Nineveh.

Many tribesmen have sworn loyalty to the Islamic State, and whether they would really rebel is less clear. The Islamic State has shown itself ready and able to violently suppress dissent among the tribes in other areas of Syria and Iraq that it controls. A recent revolt by a tribe in Deir el Zour province in Syria ended after the Islamic State captured the ringleaders, beheaded some and crucified others, and then posted videos of mass executions on the Internet to make certain the price of rebellion was known.

The Islamic State also is much better armed than the tribes, with vast amounts of heavy weaponry, worth billions, looted from Iraqi and Syrian government stockpiles. A tribal uprising almost certainly would require the direct military support of the Baghdad government or even American ground and air forces, an unlikely prospect.

Hatem also appears to have made a political blunder by adding to his demand a call for Maliki to face criminal charges for his attacks on Sunni population centers. Shiite leaders were openly dismissive.

Asadi, the Shiite member of Parliament, pointed out that Hatem faces treason charges and “is not in good standing with the government.”

“It is better for Mr. Ali Hatem to sit with his tribes and nominate someone to speak for them” in Parliament, Asadi said.

Another Shiite lawmaker, Ali al Fayeh, laughed when a reporter described Hatem’s demands, adding that Hatem should work through Parliament to resolve the dispute.

“He is out of official power. And he’s wanted, so his speech is worthless,” said Fayeh, who is a member of the State of Law coalition, the same as Maliki and Abadi.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/08/15/236669/sunni-tribal-leaders-offer-to.html?sp=/99/117/#storylink=cpy

Let these dogs have their autonomy, so we can have peace already. Autonomy will backfire on them, since they don't have any resources, unlike KRG and shiah-baghdad. Also it will allow us to get rid of the arabs with permanent residence in KRG.
You have a lot to learn about Arab mentality.

If they say we will fight ISIS if we get autonomy, in the language of deception of Arabs it means "We will join ISIS ranks and strengthen them when we have autonomy. In fact, Sunni autonomy will become a safe haven for ISIS, ISIS government. Then we will kill as many Shias as possible and invade much more Kurdish lands."

Next time I travel to Hewler I will hit every Arab I see. They are cowards.

And if they get autonomy they will actually become richer. Now Shia areen't letting them anything, they are poor as shizz. If they get autonomy and invite ISIS they will become "rich" compared to without autonomy.
Edited by Xoybun, Aug 17 14, 12:33.
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"Next time I travel to Hewler I will hit every Arab I see. They are cowards."

Yes, you will. haha
"Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn.
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"Next time I travel to Hewler I will hit every Arab I see. They are cowards."

Yes, you will. haha
You should do it too. Rojava is under siege by ISIS, and Bashuri like Rojavayi women are been sold on the market, both are being occupied and populated by Arabs.
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I know it's press-tv, not the most reliable source, but i think it's accurate: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/15/375411/isil-sells-female-izadis-as-sex-slaves/


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ISIL sells Izadi women between USD 500 to 43000: Report

Reports coming from the militancy-riddled KRG suggest that the ISIL Takfiri terrorists are selling captured female Izadi Kurds as sex slaves.

Local Kurdish intelligence sources say the women are being sold to traffickers to work in bordellos across the Middle East.

The sources also say they have received information that the captured women are sold between USD 500 and USD 43,000.

Local residents and witnesses say several women have been forced to marry the ISIL militants.

This comes as al-Qaeda-linked militants have captured thousands of women, including at least 1,200 females from the city of Sinjar.

Thousands of members of the Kurdish minority group have fled their homes after ISIL Takfiri militants attacked them in remote areas of KRG.

The notorious ISIL terrorists have already killed hundreds of the Izadi Kurds and captured their women. The ISIL and its associated militant groups consider them as apostates.

Meanwhile, the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) is stepping up aid for thousands of Izadi Kurds taking refuge in the neighboring Syria.

Some 15,000 Izadis are staying in the Newroz camp near the al-Qamishli district of the al-Hasakah Governorate in Syria. The UNHCR is working with local NGOs to supply the refugees with basic humanitarian aid.

The UN High Commissioner for Refugees, Antonio Guterres, has described the situation of the refugees as very dynamic and challenging.

Several local communities in Syria have warmly welcomed the refugees, providing them with food and clothes.

The ISIL terrorists have been committing heinous crimes in the captured areas, including the mass execution of civilians and Iraqi security forces.


http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/15/375411/isil-sells-female-izadis-as-sex-slaves/

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I know it's press-tv, not the most reliable source, but i think it's accurate: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/15/375411/isil-sells-female-izadis-as-sex-slaves/


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ISIL sells Izadi women between USD 500 to 43000: Report

Reports coming from the militancy-riddled KRG suggest that the ISIL Takfiri terrorists are selling captured female Izadi Kurds as sex slaves.

Local Kurdish intelligence sources say the women are being sold to traffickers to work in bordellos across the Middle East.

The sources also say they have received information that the captured women are sold between USD 500 and USD 43,000.

Local residents and witnesses say several women have been forced to marry the ISIL militants.

This comes as al-Qaeda-linked militants have captured thousands of women, including at least 1,200 females from the city of Sinjar.

Thousands of members of the Kurdish minority group have fled their homes after ISIL Takfiri militants attacked them in remote areas of KRG.

The notorious ISIL terrorists have already killed hundreds of the Izadi Kurds and captured their women. The ISIL and its associated militant groups consider them as apostates.

Meanwhile, the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) is stepping up aid for thousands of Izadi Kurds taking refuge in the neighboring Syria.

Some 15,000 Izadis are staying in the Newroz camp near the al-Qamishli district of the al-Hasakah Governorate in Syria. The UNHCR is working with local NGOs to supply the refugees with basic humanitarian aid.

The UN High Commissioner for Refugees, Antonio Guterres, has described the situation of the refugees as very dynamic and challenging.

Several local communities in Syria have warmly welcomed the refugees, providing them with food and clothes.

The ISIL terrorists have been committing heinous crimes in the captured areas, including the mass execution of civilians and Iraqi security forces.


http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/15/375411/isil-sells-female-izadis-as-sex-slaves/

No, that's too much. It's 150 USD. But yes it's true they sell KURDISH women!!!
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Sunni tribal leaders offer to battle Islamic State if Baghdad makes concessions

IRBIL — Leaders of Iraq’s Sunni Muslim tribes threatened Friday to rebel against the Islamic State, the first indication that a change of government in Baghdad might allow a new prime minister to rally the country’s divided ethnic and religious groups against the Islamist extremists.

But the Sunni offer to battle the militants came with strings _ possible autonomy and the withdrawal of Iraqi military forces from Sunni areas _ that would be difficult for a Shiite-led government to grant, and Shiite politicians in Baghdad showed little enthusiasm. One, Dhiaa al Asadi, a member of Parliament loyal to cleric Moqtada al Sadr, called the Sunni proposal “very exaggerated and unrealistic.”

U.S. officials have predicted since the Islamic State began its sweep through much of central, western and KRG, often with the collaboration of Sunni tribes, that a more conciliatory government in Baghdad, coupled with harsh rule imposed by the Islamists, would move disaffected Sunnis to rebel. That’s one reason the U.S. pushed so hard for Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki to resign in favor of a replacement who would be more disposed to offer concessions to Sunnis and Kurds.

That happened Thursday, with Maliki endorsing a fellow member of the Dawa party, Haider al Abadi, to succeed him.

Then Friday came the first suggestion that the U.S. theory might prove accurate: an impromptu televised speech by one of the leading Sunni tribal leaders, Ali Hatem, the head of the Dulaim tribe who has sought refuge in Irbil, the capital of Iraq’s autonomous Kurdish zone, from an arrest warrant issued by the Baghdad government charging him with treason.

Hatem, whose Dulaim clan is the largest in Anbar province, said tens of thousands of Sunni tribesmen and other anti-government groups now supporting the Islamic State would change their loyalties if the new government in Baghdad offered something in return. He said that the Islamic State includes thousands of non-Iraqis who could easily be defeated by Iraq’s much larger complex of Sunni tribes.

All the new government of Prime Minister-designate Abadi must do, Hatem said, is end Iraqi army and Shiite militia activities in Sunni areas, limit government and American airstrikes to Islamic State targets only, and hold a referendum that would grant Sunnis autonomy from the Shiite-led government in Baghdad.

“We will fight them once you return our rights and remove the Maliki militias,” Hatem said.

“Do not worry about Daash,” he said, using a derogatory Arabic acronym for the Islamic State. “We are prepared to cooperate and address this issue and you will see the results on the ground. Daash formed because of the sectarian policies of Nouri al Maliki, and it will be no problem for the tribes of Iraq to remove them if we are supported.”

A second offer of rebellion came from Anbar province in Iraq’s west, where 25 major tribes announced to the French Agence France-Presse news service that they would take up arms against the Islamic State after the group “spilled the blood” of tribal members in a series of previously unreported clashes.

“This popular revolution was agreed on with all the tribes that want to fight ISIS, which spilled our blood,” the agency quoted Sheikh Abdel-Jabbar Abu Risha as saying.

The Abu Risha tribe was a key participant in the American-backed Awakening Councils, a successful attempt by the tribes to push their onetime allies in al Qaida in Iraq out of Anbar in 2007. The Islamic State, the successor to al Qaida in Iraq, took control of most of the province in December.

Other media reports said that clashes northwest of the Anbar provincial capital of Ramadi between the Islamic State and the tribes had killed at least 12 militants, according to police officials quoted in the local media.

Significant questions, however, remain about how much actual support Hatem and his tribal colleagues still have over the tribes in places like Anbar, Salahuddin and Nineveh provinces _ Sunni-dominated parts of Iraq where the Islamic State has dominated since June 9, when its forces overwhelmed Mosul, Iraq’s second largest city and the capital of Nineveh.

Many tribesmen have sworn loyalty to the Islamic State, and whether they would really rebel is less clear. The Islamic State has shown itself ready and able to violently suppress dissent among the tribes in other areas of Syria and Iraq that it controls. A recent revolt by a tribe in Deir el Zour province in Syria ended after the Islamic State captured the ringleaders, beheaded some and crucified others, and then posted videos of mass executions on the Internet to make certain the price of rebellion was known.

The Islamic State also is much better armed than the tribes, with vast amounts of heavy weaponry, worth billions, looted from Iraqi and Syrian government stockpiles. A tribal uprising almost certainly would require the direct military support of the Baghdad government or even American ground and air forces, an unlikely prospect.

Hatem also appears to have made a political blunder by adding to his demand a call for Maliki to face criminal charges for his attacks on Sunni population centers. Shiite leaders were openly dismissive.

Asadi, the Shiite member of Parliament, pointed out that Hatem faces treason charges and “is not in good standing with the government.”

“It is better for Mr. Ali Hatem to sit with his tribes and nominate someone to speak for them” in Parliament, Asadi said.

Another Shiite lawmaker, Ali al Fayeh, laughed when a reporter described Hatem’s demands, adding that Hatem should work through Parliament to resolve the dispute.

“He is out of official power. And he’s wanted, so his speech is worthless,” said Fayeh, who is a member of the State of Law coalition, the same as Maliki and Abadi.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/08/15/236669/sunni-tribal-leaders-offer-to.html?sp=/99/117/#storylink=cpy

Let these dogs have their autonomy, so we can have peace already. Autonomy will backfire on them, since they don't have any resources, unlike KRG and shiah-baghdad. Also it will allow us to get rid of the arabs with permanent residence in KRG.
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IRBIL — Leaders of Iraq’s Sunni Muslim tribes threatened Friday to rebel against the Islamic State, the first indication that a change of government in Baghdad might allow a new prime minister to rally the country’s divided ethnic and religious groups against the Islamist extremists.

But the Sunni offer to battle the militants came with strings _ possible autonomy and the withdrawal of Iraqi military forces from Sunni areas _ that would be difficult for a Shiite-led government to grant, and Shiite politicians in Baghdad showed little enthusiasm. One, Dhiaa al Asadi, a member of Parliament loyal to cleric Moqtada al Sadr, called the Sunni proposal “very exaggerated and unrealistic.”

U.S. officials have predicted since the Islamic State began its sweep through much of central, western and KRG, often with the collaboration of Sunni tribes, that a more conciliatory government in Baghdad, coupled with harsh rule imposed by the Islamists, would move disaffected Sunnis to rebel. That’s one reason the U.S. pushed so hard for Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki to resign in favor of a replacement who would be more disposed to offer concessions to Sunnis and Kurds.

That happened Thursday, with Maliki endorsing a fellow member of the Dawa party, Haider al Abadi, to succeed him.

Then Friday came the first suggestion that the U.S. theory might prove accurate: an impromptu televised speech by one of the leading Sunni tribal leaders, Ali Hatem, the head of the Dulaim tribe who has sought refuge in Irbil, the capital of Iraq’s autonomous Kurdish zone, from an arrest warrant issued by the Baghdad government charging him with treason.

Hatem, whose Dulaim clan is the largest in Anbar province, said tens of thousands of Sunni tribesmen and other anti-government groups now supporting the Islamic State would change their loyalties if the new government in Baghdad offered something in return. He said that the Islamic State includes thousands of non-Iraqis who could easily be defeated by Iraq’s much larger complex of Sunni tribes.

All the new government of Prime Minister-designate Abadi must do, Hatem said, is end Iraqi army and Shiite militia activities in Sunni areas, limit government and American airstrikes to Islamic State targets only, and hold a referendum that would grant Sunnis autonomy from the Shiite-led government in Baghdad.

“We will fight them once you return our rights and remove the Maliki militias,” Hatem said.

“Do not worry about Daash,” he said, using a derogatory Arabic acronym for the Islamic State. “We are prepared to cooperate and address this issue and you will see the results on the ground. Daash formed because of the sectarian policies of Nouri al Maliki, and it will be no problem for the tribes of Iraq to remove them if we are supported.”

A second offer of rebellion came from Anbar province in Iraq’s west, where 25 major tribes announced to the French Agence France-Presse news service that they would take up arms against the Islamic State after the group “spilled the blood” of tribal members in a series of previously unreported clashes.

“This popular revolution was agreed on with all the tribes that want to fight ISIS, which spilled our blood,” the agency quoted Sheikh Abdel-Jabbar Abu Risha as saying.

The Abu Risha tribe was a key participant in the American-backed Awakening Councils, a successful attempt by the tribes to push their onetime allies in al Qaida in Iraq out of Anbar in 2007. The Islamic State, the successor to al Qaida in Iraq, took control of most of the province in December.

Other media reports said that clashes northwest of the Anbar provincial capital of Ramadi between the Islamic State and the tribes had killed at least 12 militants, according to police officials quoted in the local media.

Significant questions, however, remain about how much actual support Hatem and his tribal colleagues still have over the tribes in places like Anbar, Salahuddin and Nineveh provinces _ Sunni-dominated parts of Iraq where the Islamic State has dominated since June 9, when its forces overwhelmed Mosul, Iraq’s second largest city and the capital of Nineveh.

Many tribesmen have sworn loyalty to the Islamic State, and whether they would really rebel is less clear. The Islamic State has shown itself ready and able to violently suppress dissent among the tribes in other areas of Syria and Iraq that it controls. A recent revolt by a tribe in Deir el Zour province in Syria ended after the Islamic State captured the ringleaders, beheaded some and crucified others, and then posted videos of mass executions on the Internet to make certain the price of rebellion was known.

The Islamic State also is much better armed than the tribes, with vast amounts of heavy weaponry, worth billions, looted from Iraqi and Syrian government stockpiles. A tribal uprising almost certainly would require the direct military support of the Baghdad government or even American ground and air forces, an unlikely prospect.

Hatem also appears to have made a political blunder by adding to his demand a call for Maliki to face criminal charges for his attacks on Sunni population centers. Shiite leaders were openly dismissive.

Asadi, the Shiite member of Parliament, pointed out that Hatem faces treason charges and “is not in good standing with the government.”

“It is better for Mr. Ali Hatem to sit with his tribes and nominate someone to speak for them” in Parliament, Asadi said.

Another Shiite lawmaker, Ali al Fayeh, laughed when a reporter described Hatem’s demands, adding that Hatem should work through Parliament to resolve the dispute.

“He is out of official power. And he’s wanted, so his speech is worthless,” said Fayeh, who is a member of the State of Law coalition, the same as Maliki and Abadi.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/08/15/236669/sunni-tribal-leaders-offer-to.html?sp=/99/117/#storylink=cpy
Well mosul has oil as far as i Know. But They Don't have That much as we
The oil is in undisputed areas now under Kurdistan!
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Does anyone know how many arabs there are living in KRG controlled areas?
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Does anyone know how many arabs there are living in KRG controlled areas?
I do not know the exact number of Arabs in KRG controlled areas, but I do know the number of internally displaced persons in the three provinces of the Kurdistan "Region".
Prior to the recent events in Mosul, Arabs came in three waves to the three provinces of the South Kurdistan. First when the US invaded Iraq in 2003, though the number of refugees that came was not very high. The biggest group came during the civil war in 2005-2009. The last group were mostly Christians who have now Arabized Ainkawa, they came from 2008 and onwards. The number of IDPs was the highest around 2006 or so, though a lot of them returned back home after southern Iraq calmed down a bit, which made the number stay at around 5 to 600,000 Arabs until this year.
Since the ISIS advancements in KRG, in particular Mosul, another 400,000 Arabs have fled to Kurdistan, making them about a million Arabs now in our lands.

Despite this, kicking them out is fairly easy. Mainly due to the fact that many of them have been living for years now in refugee camps to the south of Hewlêr, in Khazir and near Makhmourr.
Those that do live in our cities need clearance from Asayish and they need a Kurdish resident to vouch for them. If they manage to find a friend to do that, they get checked by Asayish, whereafter they get a residency card and an information card (ID card), the former is valid for a month. (See attachments)

If they want to stay longer than a month in the city (not a refugee camp), they have to renew it every time. Staying in refugee camps is for an infinite time span.

Many Arabs come as tourists though, instead of "permanent" residents, meaning that they stay in cheap hotels until they can go home. Nevertheless, these people also do not go unchecked. They need to get a tourist card that is valid for a week after being cleared by Asayish. (See attachment). Just like with the residency cards, these need to get renewed every week.

Applying for these visas is possible just before the main Hewlêr checkpoint or at the Chamchamal checkpoint when going to Slemani

Also, all checkpoints in Kurdistan have black lists with vehicles and persons that are not allowed to enter Kurdistan
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Does anyone know how many arabs there are living in KRG controlled areas?
I do not know the exact number of Arabs in KRG controlled areas, but I do know the number of internally displaced persons in the three provinces of the Kurdistan "Region".
Prior to the recent events in Mosul, Arabs came in three waves to the three provinces of the South Kurdistan. First when the US invaded Iraq in 2003, though the number of refugees that came was not very high. The biggest group came during the civil war in 2005-2009. The last group were mostly Christians who have now Arabized Ainkawa, they came from 2008 and onwards. The number of IDPs was the highest around 2006 or so, though a lot of them returned back home after southern Iraq calmed down a bit, which made the number stay at around 5 to 600,000 Arabs until this year.
Since the ISIS advancements in KRG, in particular Mosul, another 400,000 Arabs have fled to Kurdistan, making them about a million Arabs now in our lands.

Despite this, kicking them out is fairly easy. Mainly due to the fact that many of them have been living for years now in refugee camps to the south of Hewlêr, in Khazir and near Makhmourr.
Those that do live in our cities need clearance from Asayish and they need a Kurdish resident to vouch for them. If they manage to find a friend to do that, they get checked by Asayish, whereafter they get a residency card and an information card (ID card), the former is valid for a month. (See attachments)

If they want to stay longer than a month in the city (not a refugee camp), they have to renew it every time. Staying in refugee camps is for an infinite time span.

Many Arabs come as tourists though, instead of "permanent" residents, meaning that they stay in cheap hotels until they can go home. Nevertheless, these people also do not go unchecked. They need to get a tourist card that is valid for a week after being cleared by Asayish. (See attachment). Just like with the residency cards, these need to get renewed every week.

Applying for these visas is possible just before the main Hewlêr checkpoint or at the Chamchamal checkpoint when going to Slemani

Also, all checkpoints in Kurdistan have black lists with vehicles and persons that are not allowed to enter Kurdistan
So there are no permanent residents i assume. Good. I wonder how many there are in kobane.
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No permanent residents, except the ones that have been with us prior to 2003. But they can be counted on the fingers of one hand.
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ISIL insurgents withdraw to central Mosul

17/8/2014 14:31:00

The terrorists of the so called the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant started to withdraw slowly toward the center of the city of Mosul after taking control of several areas of the Nineveh Plain, Gayath Sorchi Member of the PUK Organization Centre in Mosul told PUKmedia.

ISIL terrorists began to withdraw following the bombing of their hideouts by the Peshmerga forces and American aviation, Sorchi added.

All terrorist groups in the plain of Nineveh including Tilkaif district began to retreat towards the center of Mosul, he said.

http://pukmedia.com/EN/EN_Direje.aspx?Jimare=21173

Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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New IS map contains Jalawla and Shingal lol

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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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#Iraqi army backed by #Shia militias failed to recapture the city of #Tikrit on Tuesday due to heavy resistance... http://fb.me/73q6Azeqz
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I know it's press-tv, not the most reliable source, but i think it's accurate: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/15/375411/isil-sells-female-izadis-as-sex-slaves/



Quoting limited to 2 levels deepISIL sells Izadi women between USD 500 to 43000: Reporthttp://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/15/375411/isil-sells-female-izadis-as-sex-slaves/

No, that's too much. It's 150 USD. But yes it's true they sell KURDISH women!!!
Anfal campaign anyone? Another perfect sign that Baathists are behind this. This meant to insult us as a nation.
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Nouri al maliki (former iraqi prime minster): received his Masters degree in arabic, from the University of Salahaddin in Hewlêr, and Foad Masoam (current president of iraq) was his supervisor.

http://www.alarabiya.net/ar/politics/2014/07/22/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A-%D8%A5%D8%B0-%D9%8A%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%81%D8%AA%D9%87-%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%A6%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%82-.html
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Nouri al maliki (former iraqi prime minster): received his Masters degree in arabic, from the University of Salahaddin in Hewlêr, and Foad Masoam (current president of iraq) was his supervisor.

http://www.alarabiya.net/ar/politics/2014/07/22/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A-%D8%A5%D8%B0-%D9%8A%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%81%D8%AA%D9%87-%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%A6%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%82-.html
Nouri Maliki sold watches too in the streets of Hewler back in the 90s
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Aug 20 14, 10:49
Nouri al maliki (former iraqi prime minster): received his Masters degree in arabic, from the University of Salahaddin in Hewlêr, and Foad Masoam (current president of iraq) was his supervisor.

http://www.alarabiya.net/ar/politics/2014/07/22/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A-%D8%A5%D8%B0-%D9%8A%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%81%D8%AA%D9%87-%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%A6%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%82-.html
Nouri Maliki sold watches too in the streets of Hewler back in the 90s
And he was a shoe seller in Jordan
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#‎Anbar‬ provincial council announces the start of tribal revolution against ‪#‎IS‬ and killing 30 members of the group in south of the province.


Sure Sure why didn't they start the uprising when all started? opportunistic little C***ts.
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Quoting limited to 2 levels deephttp://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/15/375411/isil-sells-female-izadis-as-sex-slaves/



Quoting limited to 2 levels deepISIL sells Izadi women between USD 500 to 43000: Reporthttp://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/15/375411/isil-sells-female-izadis-as-sex-slaves/
Anfal campaign anyone? Another perfect sign that Baathists are behind this. This meant to insult us as a nation.
Couldn't KRG go and indirectly buy all of the kurdish women ?!! :( :(
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This is so sad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCwK3MTUROU
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