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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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This is my gift to the barkings (that's is what I call iraqis comes from parking) visiting the forum here see your precious PM Maliki handing Mosul over to ISIS

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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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The Kurdish pilot who ahead of all other arab pilots has completed his (F-16) training, iraq arabs from their father Saddam make fun of kurds using "kaka Hama" phrase while this same Kaka Hama kicked all iraqi Arab asses and passed his session before all the arabs karma is a bitch

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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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ISIS had interviewed the Jordanian pilot. He says his plane was taken down with a missile. Poor guy...
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The F16's are not allowed to go to Iraq because of "security" concerns? That sounds bizarre to me as with the war I would have thought they'd find a secure place for them.

Actually there's an abandoned base in Harir that would be perfect but I suppose the Baghdad government would object to that.
Kurdish Wisdom of War Proverbs:

"Deal with your friends as if they will become your enemies tomorrow, and deal with your
enemies as if they will become your friends tomorrow."

"Those away from the battlefield boast about their swords."

"Those who do not go to war roar like a lion."

"Everything is pardoned the brave."

"Whoever digs a pit for his enemy should dig it his own size."

"A thousand friends are too few; one enemy is one too many."
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Dec 24 14, 11:22
Liberate all Kurdish areas and get the hell out of Iraq. This shouldn't be our responsbility.
Yep let the uncivilised bedouin sons of Sykes Picot kill each other.
That is their culture, shia sunni conflict is older as the fake and failed iraq.

To try to stop their fight would be racisim against their desert bedouin culture. We must respect their tribal war culture and just protect our land.

Kurdistan must left the shithole iraq and build dams and cut the water flow to the terrorists.
Edited by Armanc, Dec 31 14, 11:06.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d5p1q9i21Q

Shia leader of Bard militia Hadi Amri "we have killed kids and women and we will continue to do so"

i think he means the sunnis areas under ISIS
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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ISIS blow up a bridge south of Mosul to impede the progress of the Iraqi forces and Peshmerga

Wednesday, 31 December 2014 15:01

Shafaq News / The terrorists of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria “ISIS” organization blew up on Wednesday a bridge south of Mosul city in Nineveh province, in order to impede the progress of the Iraqi forces and the Peshmerga.

A security source told “Shafaq News" that “ISIS terrorists blew up al- Qayyarah Bridge, located 60 km south of Mosul by a tank bomb”.

He added that the militants are trying to stop the progress of the Iraqi forces , Peshmerga forces and the popular crowd from the tribes in those areas.”

ISIS militants retreated widely in recent months and lost large tracts of land seized by them since last June and subsequent months.

The air raids of coalition forces have contributed in the progress of the Iraqi and Kurdish forces in Nineveh, Salahuddin and Diyala provinces.

http://english.shafaaq.com/index.php/security/12704-isis-blow-up-a-bridge-south-of-mosul-to-impede-the-progress-of-the-iraqi-forces-and-peshmerga
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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http://basnews.com/en/news/2014/12/30/islamic-state-shoots-down-iranian-jet/

What quality have this war plane ? Range is 150 km , looks very short . ISIS shot down one .

Iran say before 30 days we dont have ( use ) plane in Iraq ??
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Dec 30 14, 8:55
The F16's are not allowed to go to Iraq because of "security" concerns? That sounds bizarre to me as with the war I would have thought they'd find a secure place for them.

Actually there's an abandoned base in Harir that would be perfect but I suppose the Baghdad government would object to that.
This is what we called self-censorship... It's pretty obvious why the planes are remaining in the US: they don't want to see them falling into enemy hands unlike most of the equipment they sent for the past decade to the so-called "Iraqi army". Yet, the media says "for security concerns"...
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" The stinky meat, the smelly meat, maggots strolling inside, 162 is not a regiment of lousy! "
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Jan 3 15, 7:08
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Dec 30 14, 8:55
The F16's are not allowed to go to Iraq because of "security" concerns? That sounds bizarre to me as with the war I would have thought they'd find a secure place for them.

Actually there's an abandoned base in Harir that would be perfect but I suppose the Baghdad government would object to that.
This is what we called self-censorship... It's pretty obvious why the planes are remaining in the US: they don't want to see them falling into enemy hands unlike most of the equipment they sent for the past decade to the so-called "Iraqi army". Yet, the media says "for security concerns"...


It's kind of pointless to send aircraft anyway(besides the fact that ISIS probably doesn't have any pilots that can operate NATO fighter jets). They should be sending gunships, which are far superior for the purpose of asymmetric warfare with lightly armored opponents like ISIS. Aircraft are only good for destroying columns, fortified positions, land-based heavy weaponry(Tanks, artillery, APCs), intercepting other aircraft, shooting down drones. It's also very expensive to run sorties in the long-run. The biggest fear of the mujaheddin and the one which put them in the biggest tactical disadvantage(which used tactics similar to ISIS) were Hind-24 helicopters which were capable of reaching any terrain and utterly devastating any ground infantry and vehicles. They'd be vastly more useful than airstrikes. Combine that with a cogent strategy, using communications jamming, counter-insurgency tactics,

There is a shitload of things US can implement in their counter-insurgency operations, but they've done little so far, save for the airstrikes.
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ISIS fighters 'have contracted Ebola': World Health Organisation investigating reports militants showed up at Iraqi hospital with lethal disease

The World Health Organisation is investigating reports that ISIS militants have been showing up at an Iraqi hospital with Ebola.
According to three media outlets an undisclosed number of militants displaying signs of the disease attended a hospital in the ISIS-held city of Mosul, 250 miles north of Baghdad.
While the reports, from Kurdish and pro-Iraqi sources, remain unconfirmed, WHO spokesman Christy Feig said the group are trying to reach out to officials in ISIS-held areas to offer help.
According to a report in Iraq's pro-government newspaper, al Sabaah, the disease was brought to Mosul by 'terrorists' arriving 'from several countries' and Africa.
The symptoms of Ebola, which include nausea and vomiting, diarrhea, bleeding and bruising, are similar to those of other diseases including malaria and yellow fever meaning it could easily have have been misdiagnosed.
In addition, very few ISIS fighters are believed to have travelled up from West Africa where the Ebola outbreak originated with most coming from areas where there have been no reports of the disease.
The reports have appeared in pro-government and Kurdish media but if true it could have catastrophic implications for people in ISIS-held areas as the group is against western science and medicine.
It is not known if any of the surviving doctors in Mosul are equipped to test for Ebola or trained to treat patients and prevent the spread of the disease.
Source: dailymail.co.uk

Hopefully, we have no official confirmation that it is Ebola. Hopefully, because you can imagine what could do such a disease in a war zone: it would spread very quickly!!!
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Iran-Backed Militias Are Getting U.S. Weapons

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By Josh Rogin & Eli Lake

U.S. weapons intended for Iraq’s beleaguered military are winding up in the possession of the country’s Shiite militias, according to U.S. lawmakers and senior officials in the Barack Obama administration. These sources say that the Baghdad government, which was granted $1.2 billion in training and equipment aid in the omnibus spending bill passed last month, is turning hardware over to Shiite militias that are heavily influenced by Iran and have been guilty of gross human-rights violations.

One senior administration official told us that the U.S. government is aware of this, but is caught in a dilemma. The flawed Iraqi security forces are unable to fight Islamic State without the aid of the militias, who are often trained and sometimes commanded by officers from Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps. And yet, if the U.S. stopped sending arms to the Iraqi military, things would get even worse, with IS overrunning more of the country and committing human-rights horrors on a broader scale. The risk of not aiding them was greater than the risk of aiding them, the official said, adding that this didn't mean the administration was unconcerned about the risks involved.

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The official added that while the government in Baghdad under new Prime Minister Haidar al-Abadi has been more responsive to U.S. concerns about weapons transfers than the previous government of Nouri al-Maliki, it has not been vigilant enough.

On Facebook, members of Iraqi Shiite militias proudly display American arms, such as this photo from October of an M1A1 Abrams tank draped in a Hezbollah flag.

Washington was hopeful that new regime would be more capable and responsive to its concerns, but already there have been some obvious red flags. For example, Iraq’s new interior minister, Mohammed al-Ghabban, was a senior official in Iraq’s Badr militia, an organization U.S. officials have privately suspected of launching attacks on hundreds of Sunni Iraqis over last decade.

Senator John McCain, the new chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, traveled to Baghdad last week and met with senior Americans and Iraqis, including Abadi. He told us that officials from both countries informed him that the Iraqi government was handing over American weapons to Shiite militias connected to Iran.

“The Iraqi military is a long way from being prepared to act in an impactful fashion, meanwhile the vacuum is being filled by Shia militias that are Iranian backed. And I was told … that some of those arms came from the United States of America,” McCain said. “The Iranians are now, to a large degree, through the Shia militias, in the absence of a capable Iraqi military, doing most of the fighting against ISIS. That cannot be in the U.S. interest.”

McCain and other U.S. officials said it’s difficult to track the exact weapons the Iraqi government is giving the Shiite militias, and it is also unknown whether the militias are receiving weapons that the U.S. gave Iraq long ago or have been sent to since the U.S. re-engaged in fighting in Iraq over last summer.

Ambassador Jim Jeffrey, who was the U.S. envoy to Baghdad from 2010 to 2012, said that to some degree the Iraqi government has been transferring weapons to Shiite militias for years, an inevitability given the chaotic nature of the Iraq war.

“In any military situation, weapons, small arms, ammunition, trucks, the things that are ubiquitous, did some of that stuff go into the hands of the militias? Sure. It’s a problem that goes back to 2003 and even before,” he said. “We gave the Iraqi military tens of thousands of up-armored Humvees and huge amounts of small arms. There’s a huge glut of that stuff out there. I’m not surprised that some of them were given to Shia militias.”

White House spokesman Alistair Baskey disputed the assertions by other administration officials and McCain: “We have no reason to believe that there is any effort by the Iraqi government to transfer U.S.-supplied weapons to Shia militia. Prime Minister Abadi has repeatedly stressed the importance of ensuring that all militia fighters are demobilized and integrated into existing formal security structures and we continue to work with him on this effort. When it comes to tracking the use of weapons transferred to Iraq, we comply with American law in end-use monitoring.”

Likewise, Commander Elissa Smith, a Pentagon public affairs officer, insisted that the U.S. government complies with American laws regarding end-use monitoring and that all foreign military transfers for Iraq must go through the Iraqi government. “The government of Iraq has committed to provide substantially the same degree of security protection that the U.S. Government would provide. Routine end use monitoring of U.S. provided items is also conducted by the U.S. Government,” she said in a statement.

Yet there are two problems with such statements. First, there are tremendous difficulties with such attempts at end-use monitoring; second, thanks in part the December budget deal, American law on the issue is fairly muddled.

Mike Flynn, the retired general who left his post as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency last year, said Iraq's military has a very weak tracking system for its weapons. "We can account for every single weapon in the U.S. military," Flynn said. "In Iraq, despite the great work by our soldiers, there is nothing like that. How can we account for money, weapons and even training in Iraq?"

He added: "The accountability of weapons systems, once turned over to any Iraqi, is at best weak and it may be nonexistent."

Since the U.S. joined the Iraqi government in its fight against IS over the summer, it and other allied governments have provided a wide array of military assistance, training and arms to the Iraqi security forces, some of which was supposed to be disbursed to other fighting groups such as the Kurdish peshmerga forces. The Kurds allege that Baghdad hasn’t given them most of the weapons Washington wanted them to have.

U.S. weapons aren't supposed to be transferred to the Shiite militias, which not only have a long track record of human-rights violations, but of killing U.S. forces during America’s occupation of Iraq. More broadly, these militias stand accused of ongoing ethnic cleansing in Sunni areas, further harming the chances for the political reconciliation that will be needed to achieve stability in Iraq going forward.

“It’s clear that in some towns they are driving the Sunnis out that have been there forever and replacing them with Shia. That’s certainly a human rights violation,” said McCain. “One of the key elements to success against ISIS is reconciliation with the Sunni. If the Shia militia are going out and killing Sunni, you are not going to have that reconciliation and Sunni cooperation in fighting against ISIS.”

Lawmakers in both parties are now calling on the Obama administration to provide better accounting for U.S. weapons in Iraq. There are laws on the books prohibiting America from sending arms to foreign militaries guilty of atrocities.

“I am concerned by reports that U.S. weapons have ended up in the hands of Shi’a militia forces -- all the more so, given their history of committing atrocities with impunity,” Senator Patrick Leahy, the top Democrat on the Senate state and foreign operations subcommittee told us in a statement. Leahy is the author of the law that requires the U.S. government to cut off training and assistance to military units credibly accused of human-rights violations.

The so-called Leahy law applies only to military forces of a foreign government, not non-state actors. But in Leahy’s view, the prohibition should extend to the Shiite militias in Iraq because they are at least partly funded and under the supervision of the Baghdad government. Last year, the Obama administration determined that the Leahy law legally did not apply to the Iraqi tribal militias or Free Syrian Army. Nonetheless, the administration also determined that, as a matter of policy, it would vet these units for human-rights abusers as if they were foreign militaries.

The situation is all the more murky because the omnibus budget legislation passed last month allows the secretary of defense to waive legal requirements for “end use monitoring” of new weapons and equipment that are sent to Baghdad as part of the new Iraq Train and Equip Program. The budget bill also extends the the secretary's existing authority to waive the Leahy law itself in “extraordinary circumstances.” (To date, no waivers have been officially invoked.)

Tom Malinowski, the assistant secretary of state whose bureau is in charge of Leahy law compliance, told us late last year that he anticipated the State Department was equipped for the challenge of vetting of the Syrian and Iraqi unites.

“It worked in Colombia and I think it can work in Iraq and Syria,” he said. “It’s designed for situations where we have a strong interest in engaging with a foreign security force, but where human-rights abuses are also an obstacle to achieving our objectives. It gives us better choices than complicity in those abuses or cutting the country off completely. It also provides an incentive for our partners to improve.”

But the scale of the effort in Iraq is daunting. The omnibus package specifies that the U.S. will send the Iraqi military more than 600 mortars of various ranges, 1,200 anti-tank missile launchers, 43,000 M4 carbines and 45,000 body armor kits. On Tuesday, the State Department announced that it was sending Iraq’s military 250 mine-resistant vehicles.

Human rights groups are concerned. In a letter to Secretary of State John Kerry, Amnesty International called on the U.S. to drastically increase its monitoring and assessments of groups it is arming in Iraq and Syria. “No arms transfers should be authorized until such robust risk assessments are completed. It must first be determined that there is no substantial risk of any further arms supplies being used to commit or facilitate serious violations of international human rights or humanitarian law,” it reads.

If the Iraqi government were to monitor the weapons the U.S. provides them, it would be a significant improvement. Stuart Bowen, the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction, has documented just how much money and weaponry intended for Iraq’s military and police has gone missing.

A big question for the administration is whether Abadi is really doing all he can to rein in the Shiite militias and reach out to the Sunni leaders. During a meeting with Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel last month, Abadi both asked for huge new weapons transfers and also expressed doubt that a long-term reconciliation with the Sunnis is even possible.

Two administration officials told us that there is roiling debate inside the Obama national security team about whether Abadi is willing or able unite his nation's religious groups. Some inside the administration are advocating for a tougher approach toward Abadi that uses more sticks and fewer carrots. Yet there is concern that pushing away from Abadi will only lead to less influence in Baghdad for Washington, and more for Tehran.

What’s clear, for now, is that U.S. policy will continue to involve giving the Iraqi government the help it requests, even if some of that assistance ends up aiding militias that in the past have battled U.S. soldiers and committed atrocities against Iraq’s Sunni population. While this approach has not produced stability in Iraq or preserved American influence there thus far, it is still deemed better than the alternatives.

To contact the authors on this story:
Josh Rogin at joshrogin@bloomberg.net
Eli Lake at elake1@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor on this story:
Tobin Harshaw at tharshaw@bloomberg.net

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-01-08/iranbacked-militias-are-getting-us-weapons-in-iraq
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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The U.S. military is back training troops in Iraq, but it’s a little different this time

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the-us-military-is-back-training-troops-in-iraq-but-its-a-little-different-this-time/2015/01/08/11b9aa58-95f2-11e4-8385-866293322c2f_story.html
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Jan 9 15, 5:19
Iraq is a failed state. The United States spent about $25 billion to train and equip Iraq’s security forces. Does US really expect such a force to succeed?
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Who is paying? Iraq? Let them waste more money, and all equipments of the IA will eventually fall back into ISIS hands....
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Why would the US even bother.. I already lost my last hope on Iraq army getting better but after they lost bajj and crap I just gave up on them.. oh wait more like shia militias.. I dont even know where the Iraqi army are fighting??

And they will probaly give ISIS more US weapons as they have no moral for a failed state that is half filled up with Iran backed shia militias and Kurds fighting ISIS and them being somewhere?? Really the shia militias are fighting everywhere for Iraq.. and they are even robbing kurdish cities..



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Am I to believe that Kobani is Armenian?
I am confused by God's wisdom:
In this world of States
Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed,
What for have they all become fugitives, condemned?


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IA or what is left of it gets Bulgarian 152mm D-20 artillery... i just hope it doesnt fall into ISIS hands
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Am I to believe that Kobani is Armenian?
1935

Iraqi army is essentially shite and proxy iranian militias. Iraqi army needs to be rebuilt from scratch.
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I just today saw a video of IA how they were eating raw bunnies and a snake as if it make them look tuff lol.
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Dear Kurdistani these bunch of clones swearing at our president and say they will come occupy Hewlêr I didn't know iraqis had rambos too but since they are so dumb please if you see them in Kurdistan or if you suspect they have families residing in Kurdistan report it to Asaish immediately

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152332039044159
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Jan 15 15, 12:33
Dear Kurdistani these bunch of clones swearing at our president and say they will come occupy Hewlêr I didn't know iraqis had rambos too but since they are so dumb please if you see them in Kurdistan or if you suspect they have families residing in Kurdistan report it to Asaish immediately

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152332039044159
hahahaha
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talabani = jash
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