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| Worldwar2boy | May 24 15, 6:02 Post #2451 |
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i believe around 40,000 german civilians died during 1 single allied bombing on dresden, if that is what u meant ? |
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| Adler | May 24 15, 6:05 Post #2452 |
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Now many things are mixed together. The air-bombing of WWII was not accurate enough to do surgical airstrikes like nowadays. The only one, who directly targeted the civillians at night was the Englishman Bomber-Harris and the bomber command of the RAF. The Britons were that ashamed about him that he, as the only British general, didn't received some high military honours after the war. I've forgotten what it was exactly, what he didn't received. But that fact is written down in the history books. Even his statue that was many decades later errected was and is an object of dispute and shame. And you are suggesting to return to the planned carpet bombing of big civilian areas? And to repeat all the other stuff like the ethnical cleansing of German civillians after WWII? The only justified thing that happened after WWII against the German civillians was the relative harmless and half hearted denazification. Everything else is a subject of much shame and guilt in the allied victor nations. Not shared by all citizens of the victor nations, of course. There are still those who are justifying the bombing of Dresden. They are the same like the ones who are still denying the Holocaust here in Germany. And Holocaust deniers are unpleasant people. And even the ones, who are still defending the actions against German cities during WWII as neccessary.....are secretly ashamed about those deeds and are involved in an endless discussion about guilt and shame. It became a dirty part of the allied victory and a dark part of the national concience of several victor nations. And you want to REPEAT that? And add a new, eternal remaining, dark part to the (until now) good history of the Kurds? Think twice, please! Find out the guilty ones as good as it is possible with the methods of the police and the criminal detectives. Don't risk to lose the fresh awoken sympathies of the West. I can't stress that last point enough here. If you are taking part in open revenge and killing of civillians the show for the Kurds will be over, believe me. You have one golden opportunity to stand out as ally for the west in that chaos down there. If you start to behave like all the others down there and clean areas on the bases of ethnic criteria....you will be seen als the same as all the others down there. You will master the dangers without SS methods. And yes: Some criminals will remain unpunished and it will be annoying to live together with them later on. But that is the price of having a good historical concience and the West as an powerful protector and ally. Edited by Adler, May 24 15, 6:09.
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| Adler | May 24 15, 7:04 Post #2453 |
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1) Aren't the oil facilities already bombed? 2) The direct support and money for the KRG will come. The Kurds need some patience, but in my opinon it goes all that the direction of Kurdish independence. Supported by the West. The tiny unique time-window for the Kurds has come now. But that all will take time. It will be done with the Salami Tactics. The same Salami Tactics I've mentioned with the step by step increasing German support. There are so many complicated diplomatic and legal difficulties to overcome for the USA on their area and for Germany and the others on their area. It can't be done overnight. I would be surprised, if the USA are watching the inept government in Baghdad much longer keeping the Kurdish weapons and money....and giving loads of weapons to the IS because of their ineptitude. At the same time they are flirting with the Iran. The paticence of the USA won't be eternal. And that will be the hour of the Kurds. If they play their cards right and DON'T PUNISH civillians and don't ethnic-cleanse areas. Edited by Adler, May 24 15, 7:06.
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| Adler | May 24 15, 7:23 Post #2454 |
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I know that. Because that is basic knowledge I didn't mentioned it extra, that the USA and their allies have to do the bombing. And again: Aren't the oil facilities already bombed? |
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| Adler | May 24 15, 7:55 Post #2455 |
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But there were so many airstrike videos on YouTube about bomb hits on oil facilities. Or did that only happen in Syria? |
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| Jim M | May 24 15, 8:03 Post #2456 |
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My guess is that whatever Russia is going to be give to Baghdad will never get to the KRG. This largesse from Russia is being done because of Iranian influence in Baghdad and is also the reason the KRG will get nothing. (The KRG being friends with the US and the west in general.) Also Baghdad is going to get from the Czech Republic 15 advanced light combat aircraft (ALCA) L-159. I'm sure the KRG can ask the Czech Republic but I'm also sure Baghdad will block this as well. http://www.airforce-technology.com/news/newsczech-... All these weapons will either be given in turn to the Shia Militia or fall into the hands of I.S.I.S. and will eventually be turned on the Kurds at one point or another. I just don't understand why the KRG think there is nothing they can do. I just can't believe nothing can be done as the future of the People of the KRG is at stake and doing nothing can't be an option. |
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Kurdish Wisdom of War Proverbs: "Deal with your friends as if they will become your enemies tomorrow, and deal with your enemies as if they will become your friends tomorrow." "Those away from the battlefield boast about their swords." "Those who do not go to war roar like a lion." "Everything is pardoned the brave." "Whoever digs a pit for his enemy should dig it his own size." "A thousand friends are too few; one enemy is one too many." | |
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| ALAN | May 24 15, 1:37 Post #2457 |
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There is nothing KRG can do as long as it's stuck to shitraq |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Zagros | May 25 15, 3:01 Post #2458 |
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Carter says Iraqi forces do not have the ‘will to fight’, after Ramdi’s fall Posted on May 24, 2015 WASHINGTON,— The Daash group’s takeover of Ramadi is evidence that Iraqi forces do not have the “will to fight,” Defense Secretary Ash Carter said, in the harshest assessment yet from a high-ranking Obama administration official of Iraqi fighters and the loss of the provincial capital Iraqi forces outnumbered their opposition in the capital of Anbar province, but failed to fight and pulled back from the city in central Iraq, Carter said on CNN’s “State of the Union” which aired Sunday. The Iraqis left behind large numbers of U.S.-supplied vehicles, including several tanks. “What apparently happened is the Iraqi forces just showed no will to fight. They were not outnumbered,” Carter said of the Iraqi forces. “In fact, they vastly outnumbered the opposing force. That says to me, and I think to most of us, that we have an issue with the will of the Iraqis to fight Daash and defend themselves.” The fall of Ramadi last Sunday has sparked questions about the effectiveness of the Obama administration’s approach in Iraq, a blend of retraining and rebuilding the Iraqi army, prodding Baghdad to reconcile with the nation’s Sunnis and bombing Daash group targets from the air without committing American ground combat troops. Carter defended the use of U.S. airstrikes as an effective part of the fight against the Daash group but said they are not a replacement for Iraqi forces willing to defend their country. “We can participate in the defeat of Daash ,” he said, using another acronym for Daash . “But we can’t make Iraq … a decent place for people to live – we can’t sustain the victory, only the Iraqis can do that and, in particular in this case, the Sunni tribes to the West.” The Pentagon this past week estimated that when Iraqi troops abandoned Ramadi, they left behind a half-dozen tanks, a similar number of artillery pieces, a larger number of armored personnel carriers and about 100 wheeled vehicles like Humvees. Over the past year defeated Iraq security forces have repeatedly left behind U.S.-supplied military equipment, which the U.S. has targeted in subsequent airstrikes against Daash forces. Carter did not discuss any new U.S. tactics in the fight against Daash group. Copyright ©, respective author or news agency, AP http://ekurd.net/carter-says-iraqi-forces-do-not-have-the-will-to-fight-2015-05-24? |
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| ALAN | May 25 15, 6:51 Post #2459 |
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Russia will give 130 advanced tanks to daash/Daash via IFA.
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| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Worldwar2boy | May 26 15, 2:59 Post #2460 |
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Iraq and Saudi Arabia have the worst and most incompmetent armies in the world. You could add Syria to that list, the only reason they are not defeated yet is because of massive Russian, Iranian and Hezbollah support. Just look at it: daash --> Rapes & annihilates modern, heavily armed, and numerical superior Iraqi army daash --> Rapes & annihilates modern, heavily armed, and numerical superior Syrian army (see recent victories, they control over HALF of Syria right now) Saudi Arabia --> Tries to defeat a few Shi'ite rebels on sandals in Yemen and fails Saudi Arabia --> Was always scared like a dog for Saddam Now lets take a look at our BRAVE warriors; Peshmerga --> Annihilates daash . daash annihilated the Iraqi army, so the Iraqi army would be EASIER for Peshmerga to deal with. YPG --> Annihilates daash . daash annihilated the Syrian army, so the Syrian army would be EASIER for YPG to deal with. Iraqi & Syrian army combined VERSUS Peshmerga & YPG combined = We win. |
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| Worldwar2boy | May 26 15, 3:06 Post #2461 |
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The most important thing in a battle is courage and determination. Someone who fights to protect his family and country, will cause more damage with a rusty rifle than 20 cowardice, scared soldiers with modern weapons combined. GREAT example is the Yom Kippur-War: 8 Countries launched a surprise attack against tiny state of Israel. They heavily outnumbered the Israelis in both technological and manpower (1 Israeli for every 4-5 Arab soldiers) Israel defeated all of them, and despite the Arabs' numerical advantage, Israeli's killed about 1-10 Arab soldiers for every Israeli casualty. Edited by Worldwar2boy, May 26 15, 3:06.
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| kurdishpatriot | May 26 15, 3:06 Post #2462 |
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biji peshmerga and israeli defense forces they fight for the homeland! |
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#PROMOTEWOMENRIGHTS "shengal bo ezdi ya", Ezidi namerin, HATA ARAB NAMAYEN NEK SHENGAL! "A society can never be free without women's liberation" - Abdullah Ocalan | |
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| ALAN | May 26 15, 6:07 Post #2463 |
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daash will soon get these weapons sponsored by IFA and USA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-jCjawHp50 |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Zagros | May 28 15, 1:27 Post #2464 |
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Baghdad to receive advanced weapons from Russia Hewlêr, Kurdistan Region – The Iraqi government is expecting the arrival of advanced weapons purchased from Russia for the ongoing fight against the Daash , or daash , a Ministry Defense spokesman said. According to spokesman Nassir Nour the deal was struck during Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi visit to Moscow earlier last week. He said the timetable for arrival was withheld for security reasons. “All I can say is we will receive them soon,” Nouri told reporters on Wednesday. Russian President Vladimir Putin met Abadi on May 21, pledging to provide further assistance to the government as it battles daash . Iraq’s military is preparing to launch an attack on the ISIS-held Ramadi with the assistance of an estimated 20,000 Shiite militiamen currently being staged in the town of Amiriyah. daash seized large parts of Anbar starting in early 2014 and captured Ramadi earlier this month. http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/270520153 |
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| ALAN | May 28 15, 9:28 Post #2465 |
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"Iraqi" militia Hashdi Shabi |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| jjmuneer | May 28 15, 11:50 Post #2466 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJBKP34aKSs&feature=youtu.be |
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| Zagros | May 29 15, 4:17 Post #2467 |
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Iraq is a non-functioning federation, scholars say Hewlêr, Kurdistan Region - The main articles in the Iraq’s constitution pertaining to federalism have not been implemented and this neglect has led to many of the problems facing the war-torn country today. This was one of the conclusions of the University of Kurdistan-Hawler (UKH) forum titled “South Kurdistan and the Reshaping of the Middle East” and held in Hewlêr on Wednesday to mark the 10-year anniversary of the adoption of the Iraqi constitution. Political scientist David Romano said if former Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki had not – unconstitutionally – denied Sunni provinces the right to declare autonomy, much of the violence currently consuming Iraq might have been prevented. “When Diyala province declared its intention to hold a referendum on becoming a region, he came with arrest warrants, there were demonstrations, and politicians had to flee,” said Romano, a professor at Missouri State University in the US. “Maliki declared this intention as illegal, but he had no constitutional right to do so.” Maliki also blocked the creation of regions by the provincial governments of Salahadin and Nineveh, Romano said, adding that at the same time the Iraqi Parliament refused to discuss a similar request by the Shiite province of Basra. Articles in the constitution concerning the federal structure and the division of powers have been neglected, or interpreted in different ways between the federal and regional governments. This has led to problems such as the dispute over sharing oil revenues, Romano pointed out. The Federacy Council, which according to the constitution was to be installed next to the Iraqi parliament, never came into existence – mainly because Kurdistan remained the only region in the federation. “How can a federal system function without the two chambers of its legislative authority? Federations need multiple regions. If not, you end up in a situation of opposition between the one region and the federal government. And that is the story of Iraq of the past 10 years,” he said, referring to the conflicts between Baghdad and the Kurdistan region. Romano reminded the audience of the fear that existed before the US toppled Saddam Hussein in 2003. First, the concern that organized violence – ruling by fear – would continue. He also said mentioned the worry that patronage, and buying loyalty would remain a fact of life. Finally, he said the Saddam era was marked by concern the state would continue to use oil to increase its control over the people, just as it would also use ethnic and religious divisions to divide and rule. He noted that things went very differently than expected in the post-Saddam era. “The Americans set the scene by dismantling the army which left armed people out of work, and gave a carte blanche for revenge by imposing a de-Baathicifation policy. Even so, those worries appear to have come true,” Romano said. The Kurdistan region has tried to make federalism work, he said, by “advising the province of Nineveh on how to make oil contracts and how to become a region.” Romano added that “many Kurds work in Baghdad not as Kurds, but as Iraqis.” This remark prompted Vice Chancellor of UKH Khaled Salih to reproach Kurdish ministers and parliamentarians for not exercising their right to speak Kurdish during government business, even though it is designated in the constitution as one of the two languages of the Iraqi federation. Political scientist Sherko Kirmanj, from the University of Utara Malaysia, promoted the idea of changing Iraq into a confederation – a system in which states work together. “Sunni’s want their own region similar to the that of the Kurds, but the [Kurdistan Regional Government] has its own army, intelligence services and foreign policy. These elements are part of confederalism, so the Sunnis are asking for that rather than for federalism,” Kirmanj said. He said the fact the world is bypassing Baghdad when dealing with the Kurds for weapons and ammunition, is an indication that confederalism is already partly in place. As is the use of three flags during official Kurdish visits – the Kurdish, Iraqi plus the one of the visiting nation. He presented a roadmap to confederation with Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish areas, and Baghdad as a separate, metropolitan region with the confederation’s higher and a lower chambers of parliament. Kirmanj said each part would have its own head of region and its own army. The president of this confederacy would be appointed for five years, with the position rotating between different member states. The Sunni provinces should join together, he said, instead of forming a number of separate regions, as one Sunni entity within the confederation would be more powerful. Even the Shiite of Iraq are heading there, he said. “They know they will not rule Kurdistan again and cannot hold on to the Sunni areas. Now it is just a matter of borders, territorial unity, which part belongs to whom. This will eventually be settled in some way or another.” http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/280520151 |
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| Kurdistano | May 29 15, 1:50 Post #2468 |
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According to Rudaw daash has reached the green zone in Baghdad. Hopefully they will catch Maliki somewhere and rip that huge stupid head off. |
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| Zagros | May 31 15, 5:54 Post #2469 |
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Iraqi Army Closes in on Ramadi Iraqi army and Hashd al-Shaabi progress in Anbar Province Iraqi forces retook an area west of Ramadi on Saturday as they pressed their operation aimed at sealing off Islamic State (IS) militants who captured the city two weeks ago, commanders said. “The Iraqi army and Hashd al-Shaabi liberated the Anbar traffic police building in an area 5km west of Ramadi after a fierce fight,” an army officer said. “The battle forced IS to withdraw from the building, which they had used as a base, and pull back into Ramadi city,” the officer told AFP. Iraq forces have launched wide operations aimed at severing the supply lines of the jihadists who control most of Anbar, a vast Sunni province in western Iraq of which Ramadi is the capital. “The security forces today are tightening their stranglehold on Ramadi, from the traffic police building to the west, from the university to the south and from the other sides too,” Anbar police chief Hadi Rzayej said. The jihadists seized Ramadi on May 17th, using an unprecedented wave of suicide vehicle-borne bomb attacks to force a retreat from the forces that had managed to hold some positions in the city for more than a year. http://www.basnews.com/en/news/2015/05/30/iraqi-army-closes-in-on-ramadi/ Edited by Zagros, May 31 15, 5:55.
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| ALAN | Jun 1 15, 3:31 Post #2470 |
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That's not true about daash reaching green zone but this is true |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Adler | Jun 1 15, 3:59 Post #2471 |
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| Worldwar2boy | Jun 1 15, 10:03 Post #2472 |
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WARNING: EXTREMELY GRAPHIC VIDEO. ENTIRE 4th IRAQI ARMY BASE GETS WIPED OUT BY MULTIPLE SUICIDE ATTACKS. NOT A SINGLE IRAQI SOLDIER ESCAPED ALIVE. The dogs of mohamad attacking the 4th Iraqi Army base. The 2 Germans who converted to Islam and blew themselves up are in this video: ![]() Islam... tffff Link to video: http://sendvid.com/bk0h7pzw Edited by Worldwar2boy, Jun 1 15, 10:05.
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| Worldwar2boy | Jun 1 15, 10:04 Post #2473 |
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WARNING: GRAPHIC. BRAVE PESHMERGA, HEROES OF KURDISTAN AND THE CIVILIZED WORLD, GET MARTYRED ON VIDEO BY ISLAMIC DOGS. A night at the frontlines with Peshmerga. Dogs of mohamad attack Peshmerga with rajima (katyusha rockets) and martyr 3 Peshmerga and wound 4 others. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUiu4cKCMWE |
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| kurdishpatriot | Jun 1 15, 10:36 Post #2474 |
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i can't take that german seriously when he is is making his voice louder when he threatens the unbelievers hahaha. |
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| Adler | Jun 1 15, 6:20 Post #2475 |
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It hurts to see such German looking guys fall for that ideology. It should be completely strange and foreign to them as regular Germans. But that guy, that made the speech at the beginning of the video struggled pretty obviously for words sometimes. He had partly the dialect of German immigrants and made the same mistakes migrants often are making during speaking German if they are seldom speaking German.....despite of born and grown up and living in Germany. Yes, there are some few "real" Germans amongst those maniacs of the Salafists and the IS-lovers. There are two "real" Germans who are appearing time and time again in the German news when it comes to trouble with the German Salafists. But mainly western born immigrants are meant, when the western media are reporting in a political correct manner about Germans/Britons/Frenchmen etc, who were fighting and dying for the IS or were joining the ranks of the Salafists. Time and time again I'm thinking: What??? A German was blowing up himself for the IS again? And again the name of that "German" was Abdul Atatürk....or something like that. A typical German name for our political correct German media..... lol Edited by Adler, Jun 1 15, 6:20.
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