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| ALAN | Dec 1 12, 10:29 Post #1 |
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| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Dec 1 12, 10:32 Post #2 |
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| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Dec 1 12, 10:33 Post #3 |
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| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Dec 1 12, 10:39 Post #4 |
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Masserati |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Dec 1 12, 10:39 Post #5 |
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Porsche |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Qandil | Dec 1 12, 11:21 Post #6 |
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| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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| Qandil | Dec 1 12, 11:22 Post #7 |
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| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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| Qandil | Dec 1 12, 11:24 Post #8 |
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| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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| Qandil | Dec 1 12, 11:25 Post #9 |
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| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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| Qandil | Dec 1 12, 11:28 Post #10 |
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| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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| Qandil | Dec 1 12, 11:30 Post #11 |
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| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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| Brendar | Dec 1 12, 11:57 Post #12 |
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Its better to post pictures of cars with kurdistan plate numbers on it and on the streets rather than the car companies! |
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| ALAN | Dec 5 12, 7:25 Post #13 |
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new law on importing cars to Kurdistan http://www.nrttv.com/video-dreje.aspx?jimare=344 |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Dec 8 12, 4:54 Post #14 |
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Kurdish guy collects old cars Watch video report http://www.nrttv.com/video-dreje.aspx?jimare=350 |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Qandil | Jan 28 13, 9:56 Post #15 |
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Fixed link for you.
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| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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| ALAN | Feb 5 13, 6:45 Post #16 |
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my dream car in Hawler |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Feb 12 13, 3:07 Post #17 |
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Ferrari in our SK capital |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Feb 12 13, 11:45 Post #18 |
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| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Feb 14 13, 3:36 Post #19 |
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nice GT-R in SK |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Deleted User | Feb 14 13, 4:24 Post #20 |
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These cars are just being imported by foriegn firms and goes to the very rich few, Alan you should know that only a few of the wealthy possess such cars. |
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| ALAN | Feb 14 13, 4:36 Post #21 |
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yeah i never claimed everyone can afford these, but its good to see people can afford them now alot compared to my time |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Deleted User | Feb 14 13, 4:42 Post #22 |
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True Alan, but my concern is with the way the wealth of Kurdistan is being managed, ovbiously when you enter Hewlêr you will not notice poverty, but there is un-deniable poverty in certain parts of the city aswell as in rural areas. There needs to be a serious re-distrubution of wealth in SK, either through regulation, taxation or setting the quota on the luxury goods the rich are able to purchase. You may think these measures are extreme, but I fear there will be a large amount of the population that is not in the media spotlight simply because they don't have flashy cars. Reality of Hawler is that yes there is development and FDI'Foriegn direct investment' occurring from foriegn companies, but this wealth is mostly going back to the host countries or a few people. You see these development projects of hotels and malls or leisure centres, but yet when you look at the staff most of them are foriegn either western Europeans or South Asians/East Asians. Most of Hawler is for show, because the odinary person cannot afford to go to a mall every week or go to a hotel. |
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| ALAN | Feb 14 13, 4:50 Post #23 |
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i hear what you saying but a country like US has poverty and certain parts of cities and even certain states are poor or poorer than the others, and don't forget KRG is not a state yet once becomes one, has its own independent oil route exporting 1 million bpd, things will be much more better then the lower class will have a regular social security that can live like a normal citizen. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Deleted User | Feb 14 13, 4:56 Post #24 |
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I hope so my friend, but the problem is people like you who have been fooled into thiniking economics is a matter of there must be poor and there must be rich in a society have a functioning and growing economy, which is 100% incorrect. Even free market economists says it themselves. Alan America is hardly a good example of a country SK should follow. Because in America they hardly give you social welfare, and the state says 'everyone for themselves', regardless of if you have a mother who is dying. You have to pay or no help is coming. As a nationalist it must be a duty of all Kurds to be treated equally, both socially and economically, hence 100% income eqaulity must take into effect. In practice it is not really that hard to implement, it is just a matter of then having land reforms that are equal both in value and in terms of size. In my idealistic world Barzani would be getting paid the same as a cleaner, and you may think this is wrong, but a Kurd is Kurd, and work is work. One cannot place value over one sector or industry, simply because it requires more education, it may be that that particular industry/sector is much more valuable to lets say cleaning. It still doesn't render it right to get paid higher, because your work is all in the name of the people and the nation, and must never be in your name. That is called working for self-interest, or greed. (and no personal disrespect to you, but you should read a few books on economics, and understand scarcity ecnomics). |
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| ALAN | Feb 14 13, 5:10 Post #25 |
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no, you missed the point, i have not been fooled by anyone lol, i just meant it in the context that the most powerful country has poor, a semi-state like KRG will have poor as well, the only state that doesnt have poor is Dubai, but you dont even think Dubai is a good example to follow. i want KRG to follow S.Korea, but even they have poor people, poorness sometimes comes from the peoples lack of effort as well. my cousin for eg in SK was poor in 2010, 3 years later on he has bought a place, car everything me in Australia for 13 years i dont have he got in 3 years, why? cos KRG helps you if you have a job, gives you home loan, personal loan and business loan, but if you cant make use of it, then yes you will stay poor. some families dont have young boy/girls in their families to go and work for them, but this is where KRG income can come in, but until those pipelines are built and KRG gets all of the profits itself, it cant provide for everyone. remember KRG most residents are not users not inventors. they mostly rely on a Gov income not private sector, and they dont even want to go private sector, this is not KRG's fault, you are talking as if KRG has been a stable state since the fall of the ottoman empire, KRG was pretty much a shithole like the i-rack we know it till it introduced the new investment law in 2007. these mass booms etc there only stated from 2007, even in 2008,9 KRG looked pretty much like i-rack. and before 2003 the region had an international embargo and an embargo from i-rack itself. dont forget that. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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