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MENDELI - SOUTH KURDISTAN
Topic Started: Feb 1 13, 7:52 (9,225 Views)
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Biji Mandali! Mandali is the heart of SK, and will always be apart of it.
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True heval it's a very nice city, but it seems to be in very poor condition sadly.

Do you know if peshmerga are active in the city?
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FeyliKurd
Feb 1 13, 8:24
True heval it's a very nice city, but it seems to be in very poor condition sadly.

Do you know if peshmerga are active in the city?
No Peshmerga isn't active. There are many Kurds from Mandali who migrate back and forth from Baghdad to visit Kurdish quarters, as us Faylis living in Baghdad have close connections with them. If you think Mandali is poor, you haven't seen Kirmanshan or much worse Kurdish quarters in Baghdad.
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Feb 1 13, 8:44
FeyliKurd
Feb 1 13, 8:24
True heval it's a very nice city, but it seems to be in very poor condition sadly.

Do you know if peshmerga are active in the city?
No Peshmerga isn't active. There are many Kurds from Mandali who migrate back and forth from Baghdad to visit Kurdish quarters, as us Faylis living in Baghdad have close connections with them. If you think Mandali is poor, you haven't seen Kirmanshan or much worse Kurdish quarters in Baghdad.
Yes almost all cities in EK are poor, It is the result of years of persian occupation.

However, I have not seen the Kurdish areas in Baghdad. All my relatives were deported from Baghdad in the 80's..
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Yes almost all cities in EK are poor, It is the result of years of persian occupation.

However, I have not seen the Kurdish areas in Baghdad. All my relatives were deported from Baghdad in the 80's..
Well EK is not poor because of Persian occupation, it has always been poor. If you mean un-developed, well it has been like that for 800+ years, but yes Iran does cut from fiscal budget in EK greatly. I do not mind EK being mostly agriculture, actually I like it like that, we have less pollution and better quality of life. However lack of education and healthcare is a grave concern.

Yes alot of my family aswell in the 80s and 90s were deported or executed.
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in those pics i see Peshmerga, and without Pesh you can not put up kurdish flag. :hmmm
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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are you sure heval feylikurd this is Mendeli ?
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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To be honest, I found these pictures from some random facebook album. It said that it was Mandali on the pictures. But you are right, I can not be sure since I've never seen the city before.

I also thought it was strange with all the Kurdish flags (since Mandali is not officially part of the KRG).
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That's the same with Khanaqin and Kirkuk. Not part of KRG, but still Kurdish flags everywhere. :)
"Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn.
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Feb 1 13, 10:15
That's the same with Khanaqin and Kirkuk. Not part of KRG, but still Kurdish flags everywhere. :)
yeah but Kirkuk and Khanaqin is different, they are run by kurds and Peshmerga are there, but Mendeli has 0 Peshmerga presence, so this could be Jalawla or Sadiya, sub districts of Khanaqin.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Feb 1 13, 10:48
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Feb 1 13, 10:15
That's the same with Khanaqin and Kirkuk. Not part of KRG, but still Kurdish flags everywhere. :)
yeah but Kirkuk and Khanaqin is different, they are run by kurds and Peshmerga are there, but Mendeli has 0 Peshmerga presence, so this could be Jalawla or Sadiya, sub districts of Khanaqin.
Nope your very wrong, beause in Baghdad in the Kurdish quarters there are PDK flags and Kurdish flags, I should of taken pitures of it. Aswell as pictures of Talabani and Barzani. :)
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FeyliKurd
Feb 1 13, 9:53
To be honest, I found these pictures from some random facebook album. It said that it was Mandali on the pictures. But you are right, I can not be sure since I've never seen the city before.

I also thought it was strange with all the Kurdish flags (since Mandali is not officially part of the KRG).
It's not strange, because there is an Iraqi flag aswell, trust me Kurds in Mandali are pro-KRG.
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No doubt Kurds are pro KRG in Mendeli but Maliki will not allow kurdish flag he tried it officially in even Khanaqin and we all saw the rage from Khanaqinis, he thought them been Shia will support him but he was shocked for his life.

Last year Hero Ibrahim visited the district but I assure you jj Mendeli is under Maliki control you have Jalawla in between which is also under their control so let alone Mendeli.

Peshmerga actually took it back in 2003 but the US asked us to retreat we should have not listened :smackhead
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Feb 2 13, 4:15
No doubt Kurds are pro KRG in Mendeli but Maliki will not allow kurdish flag he tried it officially in even Khanaqin and we all saw the rage from Khanaqinis, he thought them been Shia will support him but he was shocked for his life.

Last year Hero Ibrahim visited the district but I assure you jj Mendeli is under Maliki control you have Jalawla in between which is also under their control so let alone Mendeli.

Peshmerga actually took it back in 2003 but the US asked us to retreat we should have not listened :smackhead
ok, explain how there is Kurdish flags in Baghdad? Aswell as PDK?
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You are mixing two things up. PDK can have kurdish flag on "it's party building" but can not have its peshmerga walking around in uniform in the streets

That is what that photo is showing us and I'm 100% that is not Mendeli we have no Pêshmerga there as much as I wish it was true but it ain't
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Feb 2 13, 11:49
You are mixing two things up. PDK can have kurdish flag on "it's party building" but can not have its peshmerga walking around in uniform in the streets

That is what that photo is showing us and I'm 100% that is not Mendeli we have no Pêshmerga there as much as I wish it was true but it ain't
I see heval, but I wasn't saying there was Peshmerga, but Kurdish flags.
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yeah but do you think maliki militia will let Kurdish flags to be raised on streets, runabouts or houses !? i doubt it, hell he tried his luck wiht Khanaqin a 95% Kurdish majority city and of course he got the shock of his life but he still tried it, image in an area there is no Pesh or an area where kurds are minority.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Aside from the flags, how can we be absolutely sure that it really isn't Mendeli?

If that's not Mendeli which city is it then? :S
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i think its Jalawla or Sadiya
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Feb 3 13, 12:32
i think its Jalawla or Sadiya
Mandali is 100 Kurdish, I don't understand why you say it isn't.
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When did I say it wasn't Kurdish ? Show me please !
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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What is so hard to get heval gyan !?, if peshmerga is not in a Town village or city then the maliki militias will not allow Kurdish flag ti be raised except kurdish political party buildings. They have done that in jalawla let alone Mendeli which isolated from mainland KRG.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Milki tried moving Kurdish flags from Khanaqin which is under KRG and does have Peshmerga and 0 milki force what chance Mendeli has ?

If Mendelians want their region annexed they need to show it throu demos media press etc... I'm sure then KRG will think of something for them. As far as I know it's not even a Kurdish majority town no more as saddam deported most and the rest have left for Baghdad lately to Khanaqin.

For example Saddam also deported us kirkukis but after 2003 we all returned did the Menedlians do that ? I don't think they have.

Asking to make Mendeli annexed to KRG by force is the same with doing so with Kirkuk Hawija you make it sound like I don't want it to be part of KRG I know it's historically Kurdish so is Hawja but I'm afraid they are both lost to Arabs. Even the menedlians have abandoned their own town now Kurds are minority there.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Feb 3 13, 1:57
When did I say it wasn't Kurdish ? Show me please !
Sorry my bad, I thought you were saying Khanaqin was Kurdish and not Mandali.
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