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| Israel & Turkey-Restoring Friendship | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 23 13, 10:00 (2,882 Views) | |
| RawandKurdistani | Mar 23 13, 10:00 Post #1 |
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JERUSALEM — Israel and Turkey agreed to restore full diplomatic relations on Friday after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu apologized in a phone call for a deadly naval raid against a Gaza-bound international flotilla in a dramatic turnaround partly brokered by President Barack Obama. Joint interests between the two countries, including fears that the Syrian civil war could spill over their respective borders, and some cajoling by Obama made the time ripe to repair the frayed relations after nearly three years of acrimony over the deaths. It was a surprising turnaround for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu who had long rejected calls to apologize. He announced the breakthrough after a 20-minute phone conversation with his Turkish counterpart, Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Obama helped broker the fence-mending while visiting Israel, but the sides had been reaching out to each other before. "They agreed to restore normalization between Israel and Turkey, including the dispatch of ambassadors and the cancellation of legal steps against Israeli soldiers," a statement from Netanyahu's office said. Netanyahu "regretted the recent deterioration of relations between Israel and Turkey and expressed his commitment to overcoming their differences in order to advance peace and stability in the region," it said. Source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/03/22/israel-flotilla-turkey-gaza.html |
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I am confused by God's wisdom: In this world of States Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed, What for have they all become fugitives, condemned? Ahmad Khani Feed the hungry and visit a sick person And free the captive If he be unjustly confined Assist any person oppressed Whether Muslim or non-Muslim - Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH) | |
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| RawandKurdistani | Mar 23 13, 10:02 Post #2 |
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Oh look, there goes our chance for an alliance in the Middle East. |
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I am confused by God's wisdom: In this world of States Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed, What for have they all become fugitives, condemned? Ahmad Khani Feed the hungry and visit a sick person And free the captive If he be unjustly confined Assist any person oppressed Whether Muslim or non-Muslim - Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH) | |
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| Tevger | Mar 23 13, 10:57 Post #3 |
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Kurdistan and Turkey at ''formal peace'', Israel apoligizing to Turkey, Obama setting things straight between Palestine and Israel calling for two state solution, USA and EU hailing PKK for ceasefire, new Syrian/Kurdish leader of SNC... One hell of a week. What is going on? Is Iran war getting near? Edited by Tevger, Mar 23 13, 10:59.
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| '' Don't touch me doctor! My death is necessary for the Kurds to wake up'' | |
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| Kurdistano | Mar 23 13, 11:02 Post #4 |
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I was yesterday thinking about opening a thread for it myself but then It didn't appeared much important to me and I didn't want to start an unnecessary discussion. Edited by Kurdistano, Mar 23 13, 11:07.
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| Kurdistano | Mar 23 13, 11:04 Post #5 |
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You are right and I had similar thoughts. Just after the truce and peace process between PKK and Turkey. Israel and Turkey relationship restore and as we know KRG has Geo economic relationship to Turkey and most probably to Israel. Something big is on the way (War on Iran?) Edited by Kurdistano, Mar 23 13, 11:08.
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| Tevger | Mar 23 13, 11:10 Post #6 |
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Exactly. Formally, Turkey is at peace with all of Kurdistan right now. No more attacks coming in from Turkish borders into Rojava ( probably has something to do with the ceasefire between YPG and FSA), economical and political relation with KRG is growing stronger appearantly and possible ceasefire with PKK now. I am still curious about the position of Kurds in Iran if a war should occure. |
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| Kurdistano | Mar 23 13, 11:16 Post #7 |
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The main reason I saw the truce between PKK and Turkey relatively positive and couldn't understand the complains of some other Users bout it. I just didn't want to speak it out but truce between PKK and Turkey is better for Kurds in Rojava. |
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| RawandKurdistani | Mar 23 13, 11:21 Post #8 |
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Well the reason i don't like it, is because Turkey is doomed to backstab us at some point in time. I am growing well tired for Kurds living under Turkish oppression in Northern Kurdistan, i wish, the PKK would finish this war and liberate Northern Kurdistan NOW! Though to be realistic, i could also imagine how the outside world world might join in on this conflict. Sometimes i wonder how the western world can call themselfes democratic and peaceloving, and yet they support Turkey in their occupation and oppression against us. |
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I am confused by God's wisdom: In this world of States Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed, What for have they all become fugitives, condemned? Ahmad Khani Feed the hungry and visit a sick person And free the captive If he be unjustly confined Assist any person oppressed Whether Muslim or non-Muslim - Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH) | |
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| Kurdistano | Mar 23 13, 11:27 Post #9 |
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1. The truce between PKK and Turkey is important for us now. If Turkey is going to backstab us later is not of much importance now. And as I said the PKK is not going to disappear in the air. They will most probably settle down in KRG. 2. PKK can't liberate North Kurdistan entirely only by weapons. You are too emotional and your thoughts are not tactical. Before you can run you need to learn to walk, but you try to run without even to know how to walk properly. Edited by Kurdistano, Mar 23 13, 11:32.
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| Tevger | Mar 24 13, 12:32 Post #10 |
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As long as PKK does not remove its metropol and city units, I do not see how it is negative for us if they move back to Qandil or KRG. We will still have armed elements ready to defend our people. Though, I understand why people have some doubt in PKK right now. The speech made from Ocalan's letter was not what we expected. We would of thought he would elaborate on autonomy but that did not happen. I guess our politicians are walking a fine line with very small steps. One might argue that the steps are way too small and that our momentum begs for bigger steps at the moment. Though, if too big steps are taken, it might cause the autonomy we have in Rojava right now and another war between PKK and Turkey that would end in mass civilian kills. Nobody wants this. |
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| Qandil | Mar 24 13, 1:07 Post #11 |
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Could all this really indicate a possible war with Iran? Interesting, never thought of it like that. |
| "Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn. | |
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| Tevger | Mar 24 13, 1:18 Post #12 |
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I dont know to be honest. But big steps are being taken in Middle East. I cant recall of any earlier time where so many things happend in just 2-3 days that could indicate change. |
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| Fire | Mar 24 13, 1:22 Post #13 |
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The letter was not only weak. It clears shows that Öcalan gave up his former Goal of a Kurdish State and Autonomy a Long time ago. Well,actually the Kurdish State was not the Goal of him since the early 90's. But his Idea of UNITED Turkey is a disgrace and not that what Kurds want. Kurds want Indepedence and an Autonomy at the very least. Free from Turks and Turkish Opression. No Turk at Kurdish territory. This asslicking of BDP Politicians concerning turkish People and turkish flag is disgusting. |
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| Halo | Mar 24 13, 6:05 Post #14 |
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I'm sorry man but that's just you buying Cewlik's BS propaganda. You compare KRG and BDP you'll see BDP aren't the real a**lickers but KRG, something they sadly have to do. Edited by Halo, Mar 24 13, 6:06.
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| Fire | Mar 24 13, 10:38 Post #15 |
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Demirtas Statement, that Kurds doesn't have any Problem with the Turkish flag and that Turkish flag hang out at Newroz next year isn't any asslicking? I'm a PKK Supporter but to hear These things just makes me sick. Just the fact, how many proud Kurds died and get tortured under this flag. Atm The Turks always mention These missing turkish Flag debate at Newroz on purpose to provokate and humilate Kurds. Edited by Fire, Mar 24 13, 10:43.
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| RawandKurdistani | Mar 24 13, 9:09 Post #16 |
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Correct, we can't liberate our country while at the same time increasing our "a**licking" on the enemy. Honestly i don't think, i have ever seen any occupied people "a**lick" their occupiers as much as us. And i understand, that we stand in some big trouble with Turkey, Iran, i-rack and Syria, but honestly what was the point of bringing in Turkish flags for the next Newroz festival? Lol, they are only pushing us further away from independence. Edited by RawandKurdistani, Mar 24 13, 9:11.
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I am confused by God's wisdom: In this world of States Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed, What for have they all become fugitives, condemned? Ahmad Khani Feed the hungry and visit a sick person And free the captive If he be unjustly confined Assist any person oppressed Whether Muslim or non-Muslim - Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH) | |
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| Jim M | Jul 6 15, 8:23 Post #17 |
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The reason you establish diplomatic relations between nations is to communicate with them. It does not mean you are friends. Edited by Jim M, Jul 6 15, 8:24.
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Kurdish Wisdom of War Proverbs: "Deal with your friends as if they will become your enemies tomorrow, and deal with your enemies as if they will become your friends tomorrow." "Those away from the battlefield boast about their swords." "Those who do not go to war roar like a lion." "Everything is pardoned the brave." "Whoever digs a pit for his enemy should dig it his own size." "A thousand friends are too few; one enemy is one too many." | |
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| kurdishpatriot | Jul 6 15, 9:11 Post #18 |
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jim its just rawand, all his friends are pakistani, moroccan, and iraqi arabs. He didn't admit he was hating on israel just to hide his pro arabism. He is now away which i find perfect because he was only posting things about islam rather than posting things about kurdistan. |
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#PROMOTEWOMENRIGHTS "shengal bo ezdi ya", Ezidi namerin, HATA ARAB NAMAYEN NEK SHENGAL! "A society can never be free without women's liberation" - Abdullah Ocalan | |
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