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Turkey police clash with Istanbul Gezi Park protesters
Topic Started: Jun 1 13, 5:34 (23,530 Views)
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Dewran
Jun 6 13, 10:40
How come there isn't any fights between Kurds who wave flags of PKK and Apo and Kemalists who wave the Turkish flag and Ataturk? Or are these Turkish leftists perhaps?

Look at this picture:

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brendar
Jun 8 13, 11:44
Dewran
Jun 6 13, 10:40
How come there isn't any fights between Kurds who wave flags of PKK and Apo and Kemalists who wave the Turkish flag and Ataturk? Or are these Turkish leftists perhaps?

Look at this picture:

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This shouldn't be happening.
99 % of the Kurds who take part in this demonstration are hypercorrect Kurds who believe in brotherhood between Kurds and Turks and don't see that they walk into the Kemalists traps. The goal of the Kemalists is to produce a Canakkale feeling , to somehow create a unity between Kurds and Mongols and to make Kurds to Mongols again.


I just want to say to these hypercorrect Kurdish people. I appreciate your goodwill but Mongols will be never our "friends", let alone "brothers". Too many things happened. It will take a time of many decades, likely a century to calm the waves. Of course I'm not saying that we should be in a war with this mongols but a moderate relationship is the maximum I want with this disgusting interracial shithole Turks. They should be very very far away from us.






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Dude why calling them mongols? Someone might get confused by reading your text. Who is it you are talking about Mongols or Turks? In fact I know a pretty good number of pro Kurdish mongols so why are you using the Mongol term as an insult on Turks, its really stupid.
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A lot of the actual ''mongols'' of Turkey are very pro- Kurdish. The ones causing troubles are assimilated greeks, armenians, laz, cherkez, bulgarians and yugoslavs.
'' Don't touch me doctor! My death is necessary for the Kurds to wake up''
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Tevger
Jun 9 13, 4:32
A lot of the actual ''mongols'' of Turkey are very pro- Kurdish. The ones causing troubles are assimilated greeks, armenians, laz, cherkez, bulgarians and yugoslavs.
what about that gay singer who started singing the turkish national Anthem when ahmet kaya said he wanted to sing in kurdish?
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Jun 10 13, 6:12
Tevger
Jun 9 13, 4:32
A lot of the actual ''mongols'' of Turkey are very pro- Kurdish. The ones causing troubles are assimilated greeks, armenians, laz, cherkez, bulgarians and yugoslavs.
what about that gay singer who started singing the turkish national Anthem when ahmet kaya said he wanted to sing in kurdish?
He was born in Istanbul... I dont know if he actually has mongol ancestry inside him. But he is a fagget none the less. But really, the Mongol Turks are a small minority. Maybe like 2-3% of Turkey.
Edited by Tevger, Jun 10 13, 6:23.
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Jun 10 13, 6:12
Tevger
Jun 9 13, 4:32
A lot of the actual ''mongols'' of Turkey are very pro- Kurdish. The ones causing troubles are assimilated greeks, armenians, laz, cherkez, bulgarians and yugoslavs.
what about that gay singer who started singing the turkish national Anthem when ahmet kaya said he wanted to sing in kurdish?
Listen, modern day Turks have at maximum 10% mongoloid input in them. They are just Turkified Native Anatolians(Pontians, Armenians and Kurds)
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Just mute the shitty music, the music make Turks and their stupid demonstration look stupid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v-dIy7jP-M
Enjoy;Turks getting attacked by Turks, very good to see. Every Kurd must see this and enjoy it. NKF SKF
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The guy shot was a Kurd in Ankara
Edited by Xoybun, Jun 15 13, 12:52.
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Watch this video from 0:42. Turks are shot at and start to run away...But shot with what? WITH WATER haha . Those cowards are afraid of water and start to run when water hasn't even hit them. They must learn from us, the Kurds, the brave people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVil96bRRog
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Do Turks have a higher tendency to commit suicide than other peoples?

Six Turkish policemen commit suicide during Gezi protests
ANF - ISTANBUL 09.06.2013 12:27:12
Police union Emniyet-Sen head Faruk Sezer said in a statement to Turkish TV Kanal A on Saturday that six Turkish policemen have committed suicide since the Gezi Park protests started thirteen days ago and spread across the country in the last one week.

Sezer claimed that police forces have also been suffering extensively from 120-hour consecutive working periods under severe conditions, remarking that the policemen drafted in from other cities were sleeping on benches, shields or cardboard due to lack of accommodation the state provides for them.

Sezer commented the violence witnesses in clashes area as the reflection of the violence suffered by the policemen.

Union head added that “To put the policemen in those conditions is the same as treason to the country".
Edited by Xoybun, Jun 11 13, 2:13.
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Dlovan
Jun 11 13, 2:12
Do Turks have a higher tendency to commit suicide than other peoples?

Six Turkish policemen commit suicide during Gezi protests
ANF - ISTANBUL 09.06.2013 12:27:12
Police union Emniyet-Sen head Faruk Sezer said in a statement to Turkish TV Kanal A on Saturday that six Turkish policemen have committed suicide since the Gezi Park protests started thirteen days ago and spread across the country in the last one week.

Sezer claimed that police forces have also been suffering extensively from 120-hour consecutive working periods under severe conditions, remarking that the policemen drafted in from other cities were sleeping on benches, shields or cardboard due to lack of accommodation the state provides for them.

Sezer commented the violence witnesses in clashes area as the reflection of the violence suffered by the policemen.

Union head added that “To put the policemen in those conditions is the same as treason to the country".
lolz
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Jun 11 13, 1:53
And the best video of all!
A Turk gets shot in the head by...a Turk!
Enjoy enjoy enjoy 1000x!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_P2rKKGbHI
Biji Turkish Paritition!

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biji kurd u kurdistan !!
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Idiot Turks. 6 days of fighting between turks and turks and 6 police men kill themselves because they get traumatized. But when it comes to kurds... 30 years of state terror and not a single police man has been reported. Talk about racism at a whole other level.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22859959
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Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan has warned that he will not show "any more tolerance" for protests.

He vowed to end the demonstrations after police cleared Istanbul's Taksim Square, the focal point of unrest for nearly two weeks.

Police used water cannon, tear gas and rubber bullets, causing many to flee the square into adjoining Gezi Park.

The unrest began after a crackdown on an environmental protest over Gezi Park's redevelopment.

The protests then widened, with demonstrators accusing Mr Erdogan's government of becoming increasingly authoritarian and trying to impose conservative Islamic values on a secular state.

'My love'

The prime minister defended the police intervention on Tuesday, saying that an environmental movement had been hijacked by people who wanted to harm Turkey.

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At the scene

Mark Lowen

BBC News, Istanbul

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Looking out at Taksim Square, I can see the clouds of tear gas that have covered the centre of Turkey's biggest city for much of the morning.

Police trucks have been spewing arcs of water cannon against the protesters, some of whom have responded with chunks of stone and petrol bombs.

The authorities claim this is an attempt to clear the square of banners, tents and flags scattered across it since the protest movement began 12 days ago. They say they will not enter the park that adjoins Taksim, the development of which first sparked the unrest.

The prime minister had called a meeting with protest leaders tomorrow. That announcement was seen as an olive branch - a potential diplomatic means to break the deadlock. But those talks may now be thrown into jeopardy by the strongest police action in Istanbul in over a week.

Eyewitness: 'Indiscriminate attack'
In pictures: Turkish clashes
In a televised speech to members of parliament from his Justice and Development Party (AKP) that was frequently interrupted by applause, he asked: "They say the prime minister is rough. So what was going to happen? Were we going to kneel down in front of these [people]?

"If you call this roughness, I'm sorry, but this Tayyip Erdogan won't change."

He also appeared to contradict Istanbul Governor Huseyin Avni Mutlu, who had earlier said the police had no intention of breaking up the protest in Gezi Park.

"To those who... are at Taksim and elsewhere taking part in the demonstrations with sincere feelings: I call on you to leave those places and to end these incidents and I send you my love.

"But for those who want to continue with the incidents I say: 'It's over.' As of now we have no tolerance for them.

"Not only will we end the actions, we will be at the necks of the provocateurs and terrorists and no-one will get away with it," he continued.

"I am sorry but Gezi Park is for taking promenades, not for occupation."

Skirmishes between police and protesters in Taksim Square continued on Wednesday afternoon, reaching the edge of the park.

Some activists hurled fireworks, fire bombs and stones at police.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan says protesters' actions have infringed on other people's freedom
"Not long ago we heard loud explosions and before that there was a rain of gas bombs falling on to civilians," one protester, Cem Ozen, told the BBC.

"We've seen many civilians being carried to makeshift medical points. Some people were wounded in the head."

Police had earlier removed protesters' banners which had been hung from a building overlooking Taksim Square, replacing them with the national flag and a portrait of the father of the Turkish state, Kemal Ataturk.

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I hate this hypocritical Western wanna be Human activists who now all appears in TV Shows and call for pacification and adherence of human rights.
Where were these shitholes when the Turkish facist state committed the dirtiest brutality and Terror against a whole nation for 30 years and defied human rights after human rights? Why did these human activists always act like if Turkey was always a country of democracy?

But it's well known of course. West always moan about human rights when they benefit from it. They close the eyes when Kurds got tortured and killed but then always moan at Russia because of p***y Riots ,lol.

The contradiction of Turkey and Russia is the best proof how two faced and false these White pigfaces are.
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Jun 12 13, 7:31
I hate this hypocritical Western wanna be Human activists who now all appears in TV Shows and call for pacification and adherence of human rights.
Where were these shitholes when the Turkish facist state committed the dirtiest brutality and Terror against a whole nation for 30 years and defied human rights after human rights? Why did these human activists always act like if Turkey was always a country of democracy?

But it's well known of course. West always moan about human rights when they benefit from it. They close the eyes when Kurds got tortured and killed but then always moan at Russia because of p***y Riots ,lol.

The contradiction of Turkey and Russia is the best proof how two faced and false these White pigfaces are.
I know what you mean I am already sick and tired hearing about these self declared "revolutioners". I mean come on its just some trees and a friggin park. Its obvious that some political parties are behind this. A usual protest without the support of a huger party would never last that long.
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Transferred from Gewer to Geziparki for resistance! A Kurd really showing how to protest:

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IN TAKSIM SQUARE, WHERE ARE THE KURDS?

One evening last week, just before six, members of the pro-Kurdish Peace and Democracy Party (B.D.P.) gathered in front of the high iron gates of Galatasaray High School, in Istanbul. They planned to march to Taksim Square, about half a mile away, where they would join a mass of protesters. In the square, a range of groups have joined together against Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, and their political and ideological diversity has been held as evidence of Erdoğan’s sweeping unpopularity. But, with some notable exceptions, Kurds, usually Turkey’s most robust anti-government protesters, have been absent.

Kurds make up about twenty per cent of the Turkish population, and are the country’s most organized dissenters. The B.D.P. is a largely grassroots party, experienced in quickly mobilizing large groups for demonstrations. Kurds are accustomed to police brutality, tear gas, unwarranted arrest, and voicelessness. When I first saw images from the protests in Istanbul—silhouettes in front of billows of tear gas and police stacked like dams around protesters—I thought of Diyarbakir, the city in Turkey’s southeast that is the political heart of what many Kurds hope will someday be an independent Kurdistan. The police violence around Taksim Square came as no surprise to anyone who knows how demonstrations in Diyarbakir often end. But this time, it wasn’t Kurds marching.

Their absence is beginning to irk some protesters. “They always look like they are part of the leftist movement, but this shows they have a different agenda,” Osman, a government clerk, told me. “They protest on the basis of ethnicity, but they are in Turkey, too.” To protesters like Osman, the pro-Kurdish party is beginning to look pro-Erdoğan. Many think that the Kurds ought to realize the value of gaining support, and sympathy, from the Turkish public in the square.

Osman’s dismay reflects another reality: the Gezi Park protesters need the Kurds. “The lack of Kurdish participation weakens the opposition,” Murat Somer, a professor at Koc University, told me when we met, later that evening, in Taksim Square. “It weakens the democratization of the protests… Kurds are the most organized political group, and the least hierarchical. They have a lot of experience. They have seen first hand the iron fist of the state.”

At Galatasaray that evening, there were a few Kurdish women in loose white headscarves. They are the Saturday Mothers, a group that gathers once a week to protest the disappearance of Kurdish detainees, usually family members. In western Turkey, they are seen as proponents of Kurdish separatism; for many Turks, there is little difference between peaceful Kurdish protesters and groups like the P.K.K., which has a history of terrorism. Osman told a story about a previous Saturday Mothers protest in Istanbul: “Two secular women walked past and said, ‘I would kill them if I could.’ ”

Nearby, two Kurdish men stood smoking cigarettes and holding yellow B.D.P. flags. One of them told me that Kurds had waited to march because it was a “sensitive period,” referring to ongoing peace negotiations. But he had seen nationalists in the square promoting Ataturk, who Kurds consider an oppressor, and it seemed important to come in order “to show that they didn’t start the protest.”

Orhan Aslan, a young Kurdish restaurant worker, was less conciliatory. “We don’t trust the nationalists,” he told me. “They are trying to make Kurdish people join the protests, but we don’t feel like we are part of it.” He spoke with pride; for the first time, he felt Kurds had something that Turks wanted. “If Kurdish people really joined the protests, the government would have a problem,” he said.

There is distrust on both sides. Even though the B.D.P. has progressive views (on the environment, and on the rights of women, the L.G.B.T. community, and minorities) that mirror those of Turkey’s left wing, their association with the P.K.K. makes Turks nervous. Furthermore, secular Turks worry that, if the peace talks proceed, Erdoğan’s religious party will get stronger with Kurdish support. “People feel threatened that, together, the A.K.P. and the B.D.P. will dismantle ‘Turkishness,’ ” Somer told me. “A lot of people don’t know how to support both Turkish identity and diversity.”

On Wednesday, a few hours before the protest was scheduled to start, I visited the B.D.P. offices in Tarlabasi, a poor neighborhood adjacent to Taksim. The office is across a narrow street from a police station, where gates protect armored vehicles and riot police protect other riot police from angry passersby. I talked to Neyzat Yeziz, the office director. Yeziz was joining the rally that evening, but not even he was sure where the Kurds would collectively end up. “Over the last ten years, the government has tried to suppress many sides of Turkey,” Yeziz said. “The only group they couldn’t control were the Kurds.”

Some Kurds are bitter that, throughout years of media censorship and police brutality aimed at Kurds, no one has protested in their defense. Ramazan Tunc, an economist and co-founder of Diyarbakir’s Mesopotamia Foundation, wrote to me in an e-mail: “The Kurds faced gas bombs in any democratic protest, but the people in the west of Turkey did not hear the voice of their brothers in the east or did not want to hear.”

Perhaps the experience in Taksim Square will change that, too. Osman, the government clerk, for all his frustration with the Kurds, suggested as much. He told me, “Turks are now saying, ‘Who knows what was actually going on in southeast Turkey?’

Source: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/06/in-taksim-square-where-are-the-kurds.html
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Jun 11 13, 7:09
Idiot Turks. 6 days of fighting between turks and turks and 6 police men kill themselves because they get traumatized. But when it comes to kurds... 30 years of state terror and not a single police man has been reported. Talk about racism at a whole other level.
That's not true, I read somewhere that more than 22,000 Turkish soldiers have committed suicide in the 30 years.

Very nice vic yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay
biji kurd u kurdistan !!
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there should be Kurdish Halparke smiley.
Like 2 or 3 Kurdish men/women who are dressed in Kurdish clothes, hold each other's hands, and dance :p
biji kurd u kurdistan !!
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Jun 12 13, 9:21
Tevger
Jun 11 13, 7:09
Idiot Turks. 6 days of fighting between turks and turks and 6 police men kill themselves because they get traumatized. But when it comes to kurds... 30 years of state terror and not a single police man has been reported. Talk about racism at a whole other level.
That's not true, I read somewhere that more than 22,000 Turkish soldiers have committed suicide in the 30 years.

Very nice vic yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay
Beautiful cool*
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Jun 13 13, 3:18
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Beautiful cool*
No it was 32.000 Turkish coward soldiers that committed suicide in 2012 alone, according to HurrietDailyNews.
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No it was 32.000 Turkish coward soldiers that committed suicide in 2012 alone, according to HurrietDailyNews.
Wow,it's getting better and better.
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A lot of them are Kurds hevalno. And a lot of them are soldiers killed by PKK whom the Turkish government just counts as '' suicide victims''. Such an ugly state.
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