Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Share KSS on: Share to Facebook Post to my twitter!
Welcome to Kurdistanboard forum. Hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
South Kurdistan oil & gas development
Topic Started: Nov 17 12, 1:25 (649,173 Views)
the SUN child
Member Avatar
ZAGROS-ARYAN

What is it about Dana Gas company claiming money from KRG? I’m reading this bull all over the internet, but I don't get it.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Deleted User
Deleted User

They claim KRG owe them 1 billion dollars, whilst KRG denies the allegations.

They have done close to nothing in the contract they signed. Constant delays, unprofessional crew, bad leadership, ill organized, cheap equipment and they are greedy. They said they would put up a LPG plant a good while back, but STILL they have not done that!

They have taken the issue to court, and if successful they will (in theory) be able to seize any Kurdish import to Turkey (cut off our export) until we pay them the money we don't owe! Turkey has signed the New York Arbitration Convention, and therefore is "obliged" to do as the company says and cut off our export until KRG have paid.
That is only power on paper. In reality they can not pull that off.

Thats at least what i know on the subject. Maybe kak Alan or somebody else knows more?
Quote Post Goto Top
 
ALAN
Member Avatar


They can't cut our export off if they can prove what they claim KRG will be ordered to pay or vice versa.... They can stop operating at the field they have thou but KRG can at anytime cancel the contract on slow and unprofessional basis
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Deleted User
Deleted User

ALAN
Dec 19 13, 11:59
They can't cut our export off if they can prove what they claim KRG will be ordered to pay or vice versa.... They can stop operating at the field they have thou but KRG can at anytime cancel the contract on slow and unprofessional basis
Yes, thats why i said its only power on paper. In reality they can't cut our export.

Is Gazprom operational in KRG now? Do they work with Gas, or only oil for now?
Quote Post Goto Top
 
ALAN
Member Avatar


Gazprom is in exploration phase same as Exxon Chevron and total once these guys struck oil our Independence Days will rip and hit maturity :yes:
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
ALAN
Member Avatar


"Exxon Mobil to build a pipeline for its fields as well as the other 3 majors to turkish ports"

xD
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Worldwar2boy
Member Avatar


FulcrumKAF
Dec 19 13, 8:24
They claim KRG owe them 1 billion dollars, whilst KRG denies the allegations.

They have done close to nothing in the contract they signed. Constant delays, unprofessional crew, bad leadership, ill organized, cheap equipment and they are greedy. They said they would put up a LPG plant a good while back, but STILL they have not done that!

They have taken the issue to court, and if successful they will (in theory) be able to seize any Kurdish import to Turkey (cut off our export) until we pay them the money we don't owe! Turkey has signed the New York Arbitration Convention, and therefore is "obliged" to do as the company says and cut off our export until KRG have paid.
That is only power on paper. In reality they can not pull that off.

Thats at least what i know on the subject. Maybe kak Alan or somebody else knows more?
hahahaahahahahahahahaha, they will never be able to do that
Barzani or Hero or some other Kurdish-party leader will just f**k them up and imprison the lying greedy bastards for terrorism and nationalize all the assets of the company in Kurdistan :)

One thing about Kurdistan is good despite the corruption etc; nobody can f**k with us, especially not via some bullshit bureaucratic court order xD
biji kurd u kurdistan !!
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Deleted User
Deleted User

Worldwar2boy
Dec 20 13, 10:36
FulcrumKAF
Dec 19 13, 8:24
They claim KRG owe them 1 billion dollars, whilst KRG denies the allegations.

They have done close to nothing in the contract they signed. Constant delays, unprofessional crew, bad leadership, ill organized, cheap equipment and they are greedy. They said they would put up a LPG plant a good while back, but STILL they have not done that!

They have taken the issue to court, and if successful they will (in theory) be able to seize any Kurdish import to Turkey (cut off our export) until we pay them the money we don't owe! Turkey has signed the New York Arbitration Convention, and therefore is "obliged" to do as the company says and cut off our export until KRG have paid.
That is only power on paper. In reality they can not pull that off.

Thats at least what i know on the subject. Maybe kak Alan or somebody else knows more?
hahahaahahahahahahahaha, they will never be able to do that
Barzani or Hero or some other Kurdish-party leader will just f**k them up and imprison the lying greedy bastards for terrorism and nationalize all the assets of the company in Kurdistan :)

One thing about Kurdistan is good despite the corruption etc; nobody can f**k with us, especially not via some bullshit bureaucratic court order xD
Exactly haha
Quote Post Goto Top
 
Brendar
Member Avatar


FulcrumKAF
Dec 19 13, 8:24
They claim KRG owe them 1 billion dollars, whilst KRG denies the allegations.

They have done close to nothing in the contract they signed. Constant delays, unprofessional crew, bad leadership, ill organized, cheap equipment and they are greedy. They said they would put up a LPG plant a good while back, but STILL they have not done that!

They have taken the issue to court, and if successful they will (in theory) be able to seize any Kurdish import to Turkey (cut off our export) until we pay them the money we don't owe! Turkey has signed the New York Arbitration Convention, and therefore is "obliged" to do as the company says and cut off our export until KRG have paid.
That is only power on paper. In reality they can not pull that off.

Thats at least what i know on the subject. Maybe kak Alan or somebody else knows more?
Does iraq even have a court? Does a muslim country have a court? I have never seen them settling matters in court!
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Worldwar2boy
Member Avatar


Brendar
Dec 21 13, 7:43
FulcrumKAF
Dec 19 13, 8:24
They claim KRG owe them 1 billion dollars, whilst KRG denies the allegations.

They have done close to nothing in the contract they signed. Constant delays, unprofessional crew, bad leadership, ill organized, cheap equipment and they are greedy. They said they would put up a LPG plant a good while back, but STILL they have not done that!

They have taken the issue to court, and if successful they will (in theory) be able to seize any Kurdish import to Turkey (cut off our export) until we pay them the money we don't owe! Turkey has signed the New York Arbitration Convention, and therefore is "obliged" to do as the company says and cut off our export until KRG have paid.
That is only power on paper. In reality they can not pull that off.

Thats at least what i know on the subject. Maybe kak Alan or somebody else knows more?
Does iraq even have a court? Does a muslim country have a court? I have never seen them settling matters in court!
Muslims only kill people. When my mother's uncle was imprisoned in Baghdad (he was a Peshmerga, was released as part of a General Pardon), they witnessed how the MUSLIM ARAB JUDGES sentenced Kurdish boys of 14-15 year old to death like it was nothing.

Arabs are uncivilized they do not know reason.
biji kurd u kurdistan !!
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Deleted User
Deleted User

Brendar
Dec 21 13, 7:43
FulcrumKAF
Dec 19 13, 8:24
They claim KRG owe them 1 billion dollars, whilst KRG denies the allegations.

They have done close to nothing in the contract they signed. Constant delays, unprofessional crew, bad leadership, ill organized, cheap equipment and they are greedy. They said they would put up a LPG plant a good while back, but STILL they have not done that!

They have taken the issue to court, and if successful they will (in theory) be able to seize any Kurdish import to Turkey (cut off our export) until we pay them the money we don't owe! Turkey has signed the New York Arbitration Convention, and therefore is "obliged" to do as the company says and cut off our export until KRG have paid.
That is only power on paper. In reality they can not pull that off.

Thats at least what i know on the subject. Maybe kak Alan or somebody else knows more?
Does iraq even have a court? Does a muslim country have a court? I have never seen them settling matters in court!
I think they brought it to a European (EU) or English (UK*) court.
Quote Post Goto Top
 
ALAN
Member Avatar


Crude oil test flows via south Kurdistan's new pipeline reached Turkish port

23.12.2013

ANKARA,— Crude oil test flows via South Kurdistan's new pipeline have reached Turkey's Mediterranean export hub of Ceyhan and the pipeline is expected to be operational soon, Turkey's Energy Minister said on Monday.

"The (operational) flows will be starting after this," Taner Yildiz told reporters, adding that the start-up date will be discussed next week.

Turkey has agreed with South Kurdistan on a comprehensive package of oil and gas deals, which will see the rich hydrocarbon resources of the semi-autonomous region independently exported to world markets via Turkey.

The move infuriated Baghdad, which claims the sole authority to manage Iraqi oil, but Turkey has been working to have the central government on board before the exports start.

Yildiz visited Baghdad in early December to have talks with Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister Hussain al-Shahristani, who has long opposed Turkey's courtship of Kurds.

"I believe this crude will flow via Turkey based on our talks with Shahristani in Baghdad," he said.
South Kurdistan officials have said repeatedly that the pipeline built by the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) is complete and should be operational this month.

Copyright ©, respective author or news agency, Reuters
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Ali Alqosh
No Avatar


Now that we have our own pipe, wont our yearly budget rise? :)
Edited by Ali Alqosh, Dec 24 13, 12:19.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
ALAN
Member Avatar


Yes it will we can get the 17% all of as Iraq was only giving us 10% plus Peshmerga budget they owe $14 billion as well as Anfal and Halabja compensation which they have to give out of their 83%
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Ali Alqosh
No Avatar


ALAN
Dec 24 13, 11:06
Yes it will we can get the 17% all of as Iraq was only giving us 10% plus Peshmerga budget they owe $14 billion as well as Anfal and Halabja compensation which they have to give out of their 83%
I hope they pay us those 14 billion dollars! Barzani seriously needs to show his strength once in a while... I mean, they wont pay us if we don't do something hmmm
Edited by Ali Alqosh, Dec 24 13, 10:48.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
ALAN
Member Avatar


They wont pay us it, we just from now on allocate it from the oil sales from our independent pipelines
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
ALAN
Member Avatar


Quote:
 
The colonel also praised the astute manner in which the Kurdish prime minister Nechirvan Barzani, dealt with the question of oil: “he’s a visionary, Barzani said you can come look at it, and look at the price, the bank account. But we will pay our oil companies and then we will pay our dues back to Baghdad.”

http://www.basnews.com/en/News/Details/Colonel-Dick-Naab--America-has-never-had-a-clear-policy-towards-Kurdistan-/8745


so that is how it works we use up all the money from the sales if anything left over we will send it to them, but id say there will not be much left over once we take 17% + Peshmerga budget + Halabja/Anfal genocide compensation, thought i would not talk about this for now and leave it till we dumb iraq on the side walk.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Worldwar2boy
Member Avatar


Gundî Uçar
Dec 24 13, 10:48
ALAN
Dec 24 13, 11:06
Yes it will we can get the 17% all of as Iraq was only giving us 10% plus Peshmerga budget they owe $14 billion as well as Anfal and Halabja compensation which they have to give out of their 83%
I hope they pay us those 14 billion dollars! Barzani seriously needs to show his strength once in a while... I mean, they wont pay us if we don't do something hmmm
shitraq has no money left
they can't even pay for the arms they bought from Russia and United States, USA didn't deliver because shitraq didn't have any money lol
The shiraqi's have trouble keeping the peace, milki boy has to pay all shitraqi tribes every month, if he don't they will rise up or stop their support, they will strangle milki boy with their skirts

shitraq is one big shithole
if we take 1 more precent of their budget they will die from hunger haha
Edited by Worldwar2boy, Dec 25 13, 2:19.
biji kurd u kurdistan !!
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
ALAN
Member Avatar


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQQ7xRsnE7s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ1G1ab3X3k
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
ALAN
Member Avatar


Iraq reduces Kurdish gas share

25.12.2013

Shwan Barzinji
BasNews (Erbil):

The Iraqi Ministry of Oil has backed down from an oil-related agreement with the autonomous southern Kurdistan signed three years ago.

The ministry will stop sending gas to Kurdistan. The head of Erbil Gas Production, Bakhtiyar Abdullah Peshdari, has called on Baghdad not to involve politics in this technical agreement.

Peshdari told BasNews that the federal government first reduced the amount of gas share in early December.

“The central government has to send us 300 tons of gas on a daily basis, but due to a decision that has been taken by the Ministry of Oil in Iraq we now receive 200 tons as well as well as there being a reduction of 70 tons from Dohuk and 100 tons from Sulaimani ,” Said Peshdari.

Erbil Gas Production was founded in 1991 and it distributes gas on private and governmental offices, as well as approximately 19 factories.

However, Peshdari pointed out that since they are producing gas locally, the lack of gas in Erbil is not as noticeable.

“In order to make up for the amount of gas reduced by the central government, we are relying on our local productions such as Kawargosk refinery that can produce 60 to 80 tons of gas per day, which resolves the problem to an extent,” said Peshdari.

A number of experts believe that the contract of oil exportation between South Kurdistan and Turkey has caused Baghdad’s reaction.

“Three years ago, we agreed with the central government to give 20% of Kirkuk’s gas to Erbil, now they have stopped sending gas to the South Kurdistan,” Said Peshdari.

Peshdari also reported that 24 thousands of cylinder get filled with gas per day, and South Kurdistan needs 750 tons of gas, while central government sends 500 tons, the rest has been decided to be sent to Baghdad from Kirkuk.

The ministry of oil in Iraq produces 140-million gas cylinder annually, and South Kurdistan’s share has been decreased to 33% in December.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
ALAN
Member Avatar


wwboy they have money they are saving billions in US banks...
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
LelleS
No Avatar


Alan

What are youre comments about the deal between KRG and Bagdad? Ok or? could it be one official and one inofficial version to save Bagdads face?

http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2013/12/govt2242.htm
Edited by LelleS, Dec 27 13, 3:58.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Worldwar2boy
Member Avatar


but most gas fields are in Kurdistan, anyone know if these gas fields are operative
biji kurd u kurdistan !!
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Kinematik
No Avatar


Shahristani and Barzani strike oil deal
Written on December 27, 2013 by Editor in Iraq, KRG, Kurd news, Kurdistan, Oil
Shahristani and Barzani

Shahristani and Barzani

The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) prime minister Nechirvan Barzani and Iraq energy minister Hussain Shahristani yesterday reached an agreement in Baghdad that oil from the South Kurdistan will be exported through the Iraq State Oil Marketing Organization (SOMO), with revenues distributed according to the agreed annual budget share. The Iraqi government will decide on the oil price.

In the recent past KRG officials have spoken about exporting oil directly to Turkey. It is unclear whether this latest agreement will impact on the Turkey-KRG relationship.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Deleted User
Deleted User

Kinematik
Dec 27 13, 11:55
Shahristani and Barzani strike oil deal
Written on December 27, 2013 by Editor in Iraq, KRG, Kurd news, Kurdistan, Oil
Shahristani and Barzani

Shahristani and Barzani

The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) prime minister Nechirvan Barzani and Iraq energy minister Hussain Shahristani yesterday reached an agreement in Baghdad that oil from the South Kurdistan will be exported through the Iraq State Oil Marketing Organization (SOMO), with revenues distributed according to the agreed annual budget share. The Iraqi government will decide on the oil price.

In the recent past KRG officials have spoken about exporting oil directly to Turkey. It is unclear whether this latest agreement will impact on the Turkey-KRG relationship.
Video report on the agreement (it is in Kurdish tho);
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frChiU_Ng0A
Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Create your own social network with a free forum.
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Oil & gas development news · Next Topic »

Find more great themes at the Zathyus Network Resources