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| U.S. House passes Iran sanctions bill to slash oil exports | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 1 13, 11:27 (3,448 Views) | |
| ALAN | Aug 1 13, 11:27 Post #1 |
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1, August 2013 By Timothy Gardner WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The House of Representatives easily passed a bill on Wednesday to tighten sanctions on Iran, showing a strong message to Tehran over its disputed nuclear program days before President-elect Hassan Rouhani is sworn in. The vote also highlighted a growing divide between Congress and the Obama administration on Iran policy ahead of talks on the nuclear program in coming months. Iran insists the nuclear program is purely for civilian purposes. The bill, which passed 400 to 20, would cut Iran's oil exports by another 1 million barrels per day over a year, in an attempt to reduce the flow of funds to the nuclear program. It is the first sanctions bill to put a number on exactly how much Iran's oil exports would be cut. Previous U.S. and EU sanctions have reduced Iran's oil exports by more than half. The United States has worked with Iran's top oil consumers including China, Japan and South Korea to push them toward alternative suppliers of crude. Oil prices have remained relatively steady, which has allowed the efforts to continue, but some analysts say further sanctions risk pushing up prices and damaging the economies of U.S. allies. The bill still has to be passed in the Senate and signed by President Barack Obama before becoming law. The Senate Banking Committee is expected to introduce a similar measure in September, though it is uncertain whether the language to cut exports by 1 million barrels a day will survive. Critics of the bill said it shows an aggressive signal to Iran that last month voted in Rouhani, a cleric many see as more moderate. He will be sworn in on Sunday. Rep. Ed Royce, a California Republican and Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee who introduced the bill with Rep. Eliot Engel, a New York Democrat, said the United States has no higher national security priority than preventing a nuclear-armed Iran. Royce said the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's drive to develop a nuclear arsenal was evident. "New president or not, I am convinced that Iran's Supreme Leader intends to continue on this path," he said. The vote showed a growing disagreement between the White House and Congress on Iran policy. A senior administration official said on Wednesday the White House is not opposed to new sanctions in principle, but wants to give Rouhani a chance. The Treasury Department last week partially eased sanctions on Iran by expanding a list of medical devices that can be exported there without special permission. One of the 20 lawmakers to vote against the bill, Jim McDermott, a Washington-state Democrat, said shortly before the vote that the rush to sanction Iran before Rouhani takes office could hurt efforts to deflate the nuclear issue. "It's a dangerous sign to send and it limits our ability to find a diplomatic solution to nuclear arms in Iran," McDermott said. The bill also further denies Iran governments access to foreign currency reserves, and targets Iranian efforts to circumvent international sanctions against its shipping business. (Reporting by Timothy Gardner, additional reporting by Warren Strobel; Editing by Philip Barbara) http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE9540FV20130605?irpc=932 |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| ALAN | Aug 1 13, 11:29 Post #2 |
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Good news put tighter sanctions on these Azeri/Persians till they get broken by their own people and can't wait till they do
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| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| RawandKurdistani | Aug 1 13, 11:55 Post #3 |
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Since you're now mentioning Azeris, i find it strange we only blame the Persians, when the Azeris also play a major part in Iranian politics and cooperate with the Persians in oppressing us. Edited by RawandKurdistani, Aug 1 13, 11:56.
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I am confused by God's wisdom: In this world of States Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed, What for have they all become fugitives, condemned? Ahmad Khani Feed the hungry and visit a sick person And free the captive If he be unjustly confined Assist any person oppressed Whether Muslim or non-Muslim - Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH) | |
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| purearch72 | Aug 1 13, 12:11 Post #4 |
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Supreme leader of Iran is half azeri too. |
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| ALAN | Aug 1 13, 12:22 Post #5 |
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Correct that's why I said that too
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| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Worldwar2boy | Aug 1 13, 3:15 Post #6 |
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yes, very good sanction, let the filthy rats starve to death, all Persian money is currently going to SK because they don't have anyone to deal with anymore, which is good because it puts us in a better position >:) Can't wait till PERSIA collapses and East-Kurdistan is liberated from the islamofascists |
| biji kurd u kurdistan !! | |
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| jjmuneer | Aug 1 13, 10:28 Post #7 |
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In all honesty heval the sanctions seem to be affecting the poor in Iran, rather than the actual regime. The USA need to engage in military strikes on Iranian military targets. |
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| RawandKurdistani | Aug 1 13, 10:35 Post #8 |
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A military strike against Iran is easier said than done. It's not the resistance from Iran (We all know that's pathetic) it's the reaction of the Islamic countries. Edited by RawandKurdistani, Aug 1 13, 10:37.
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I am confused by God's wisdom: In this world of States Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed, What for have they all become fugitives, condemned? Ahmad Khani Feed the hungry and visit a sick person And free the captive If he be unjustly confined Assist any person oppressed Whether Muslim or non-Muslim - Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH) | |
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| Azamat | Aug 2 13, 1:07 Post #9 |
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How would it be pathetic? I think it's fair to say that after Israel, Iran is easily the most technologically advanced country in the region, and highly capable of defending itself against regional and world powers in the event of attack. A war on Iran would be a move that the USA and whoever allies they have recruited will quickly regret, since Iran is simply incomparable to any enemy it may have fought before. Or could it be you're referring to the human aspect, the morale and loyalty to the IRI? I personally hope that the IRI falls because of an internal uprising. I have no idea why all of you are cheering for the Americans to roll in, why would we want any more US imperialism in the area? Enough is enough, they can keep their disgusting onslaught of privatization of natural resources out this time. Edited by Azamat, Aug 2 13, 1:12.
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| RawandKurdistani | Aug 2 13, 3:36 Post #10 |
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What does Iran have to combat the United States? Even 40% of their airforce is not even armed lol. Their equipment is frankly quite sh*tty, all they have is a Whole bunch of missiles. My point is i don't care about the U.S. If they can weaken Iran for us, let them do it, i don't care how much oil they're gonna steal from the Persians. Edited by RawandKurdistani, Aug 2 13, 3:38.
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I am confused by God's wisdom: In this world of States Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed, What for have they all become fugitives, condemned? Ahmad Khani Feed the hungry and visit a sick person And free the captive If he be unjustly confined Assist any person oppressed Whether Muslim or non-Muslim - Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH) | |
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| jjmuneer | Aug 2 13, 5:35 Post #11 |
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It's their ground units and technology that the USA and Israel fears. Tell me if Israel and the USA weren't scared don't you think they would of attacked a long time ago? I agree however that their technology is inferior in comparison to the west's, but none the less they do pose a military threat on a regional level. |
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| RawandKurdistani | Aug 2 13, 8:14 Post #12 |
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As i said, i don't think USA and Israel have ever been scared of the Iranian army itself, i believe they're worried about those countries sharing sympathy for Iran. The United States has invaded many countries in the past, and as a result i also believe many people will defend Iran against the "invaders" (Probably mostly through peaceful politics) And the Unites States is already hated as it is. Edited by RawandKurdistani, Aug 2 13, 8:15.
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I am confused by God's wisdom: In this world of States Why have the Kurds remained Stateless, dispossessed, What for have they all become fugitives, condemned? Ahmad Khani Feed the hungry and visit a sick person And free the captive If he be unjustly confined Assist any person oppressed Whether Muslim or non-Muslim - Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH) | |
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| Worldwar2boy | Aug 2 13, 8:52 Post #13 |
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Iran is a joke, they couldn't even resist i-rack during the Iran-Iraq war. Iran had far more casualties and the only reason they lasted so long, was because of the fact that the Persian population is greater than the i-racki population. And many of the i-racki's didn't even fought against the Persians because they saw each other as ''Shia brothers''. My father was a Peshmerga for 18 years, he fought against the i-racki Arab Ba'ath regime. But he also served as a soldier within the i-racki army (everyone had to, anyone who didn't show up, was accused of being a Peshmerga and that would have major consequences for the family members - as in; they would be killed). So he was in a few battles during the Iran-Iraq war. He was stationed inside a bunker, he was the only Kurd there. There Arab commander was a Sunni, but all of the other soldiers were Shia i-racki Arabs. So there were only 2 sunni's, my father & the commander. One night, they were attacked by the Persians. The i-racki Shia's refused to fight them and my father & the commander did all the work. The other i-racki soldiers, at least 10 of them, didn't do ANYTHING. They fought the entire night and switched weapons to counter the Persian attacks, it lasted many hours. They eventually managed to beat the attacking Persian forces with the 2 of them. The next day, Arab commanders from the HQ came over the evaluate the situation. More than 23 Persian soldiers were killed that night. The commander even signed my fathers name up to get a medal from Saddam Hussain for ''courage''. After that battle, they relocated my father and when they gave him some time off to visit his family in Slemani, he never returned & rejoined the Peshmerga. A commander 'helped him out' so that he would be noted as 'missing'. He never received the medal though. So what I am saying; the Persian soldiers even had a friggin hard time against the already weak i-racki's, and to make it even worse; many of the i-racki Arab soldiers didn't even fight the Persians because of their shared religion. Iran is NO MATCH against USA & Israel. What are you trying to accomplish with spreading false information like that? Many Persians wanted to fight for Khamenei / the ISlamic Republic during the Iran-Iraq war, but now most of the Persians are tired of the Islamic Regime and I am 100% sure most of them will surrender immediately, just like how the i-racki Arab soldiers did, during the Liberation in 2003. The Persians will be annihilated and humiliated. They are absolutely NO MATCH for Israel & the USA. |
| biji kurd u kurdistan !! | |
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| jjmuneer | Aug 2 13, 8:55 Post #14 |
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You have to remember Iran was attacked when it just changed regime. Saddam was scared of the Pahlavis, that is why he never attacked Iran during their reign. He knew the islamic government was ill-organized and he probably thoguht it was going to be an easy victory. |
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| Halo | Aug 2 13, 9:50 Post #15 |
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The americans are acting blind and dumb as usual. They don't get that the regime gains strength with these sanctions. Things become more expensive and people gets more upset with the situation. Medicine is a perfect example and it's runing low and the many who are dependent on medication are having it harder. The situation for my grandmother is getting very difficult. One of my relatives has to drive to SK to buy the more expensive medicine, that costs a fortune in Iran. And belive when it becomes really difficult the people will stand as strongest. You should see during Iran-Iraq war, literally people gave away everything out of value. They were very very enduring and there is nothing that says they wouldn't be that now either. For the moment Iran are having it difficult and are trying to produce everything by themselves. it may take a time but that time will sooner or later come and they will survive in one way or another. |
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| the SUN child | Aug 2 13, 9:54 Post #16 |
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I heard that Israel wants to strike Iran at the end of this year. I can’t confirm it, though… |
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| Worldwar2boy | Aug 2 13, 9:58 Post #17 |
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nobody can confirm that xd |
| biji kurd u kurdistan !! | |
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| Worldwar2boy | Aug 2 13, 9:59 Post #18 |
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no, they will hate the islamic regime more as the sanctions are a result of their policy |
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| ALAN | Aug 2 13, 11:05 Post #19 |
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I dont think USA will attack Iran, just my thoughts. Israel though they want to but how doable i am not sure. |
| Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time. | |
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| Halo | Aug 2 13, 11:15 Post #20 |
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NO that's not the iran I know. Sure people some may started have protesting against the high prices but the people know that US and the west are the ones to blame on the most not only because they belive it but also because all the media is controlled by the regime. |
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| Azamat | Aug 3 13, 2:38 Post #21 |
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That may or may not be true, but their military is still far more capable and disciplined than any force the US has combated since after WW2. Plus, Iran has a military industry to sustain long-term warfare with armament production capabilities, as opposed to for instance i-rack or the Vietcong which were always supplied by foreign benefactors. I don't care about that either, but an Iran under American control would be a major strategic gain for the US where their power over the Middle-East will become contiguous: from i-rack and the Gulf States to Afghanistan and even Syria if Assad loses the war. They could coerce and pressure anyone to do whatever they like, including us(for instance keeping us from nationalizing our oil, or preventing the PYD-PKK from gaining too much influence in Kurdish politics), and an American-controlled ME would empower Turkey too. Therefore, it is in our interest as well to see the Americans from being kept out of Iran. The best hope for a liberated EK is an internal uprising against the IRI. Unfortunately their nuclear program and its firm stand against Israel and the West are making the regime highly popular amongst civilians, but even the most favorable portrayal of the regime should take into account that Iran is based on Islamic unity, and an ethnic awakening amongst Iran's many indigenous minorities could make that unity fall apart. Edited by Azamat, Aug 3 13, 2:50.
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| Worldwar2boy | Aug 5 13, 12:20 Post #22 |
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Lol. What a load of bull shizz. Iran's army is not disciplined at all. Those who fight, belong to the revolutionary guard who are loyal to the regime. But that's only a small portion of the military. Their equipment is out of date and the largest part of the population doesn't support the regime at all. THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED A REGIME. THEY OPPRESS PEOPLE. I really don't know how you make all this bull shizz up. Do you have a source? Did you do a study among Persian and American soldiers? Is that how you came up with this conclusion? Even IF it was based on a research, it would not be reliable as the Persian soldiers would say 'positive' things in order not to be killed by the regime. They will, just like Saddam's army, surrender when the US/Israel attacks. By the tens of thousands, like cowards. I prefer a US-controlled Middle-East over a Russian one. Because I am sure that's what you want (Russian influenced/controlled Mid-East). Fact is, US has too much power in the ME and can not be 'overthrown' especially since it's not an established/noticeable power. And the ME is too much divided, so there won't be a ''Middle Eastern Union'' any time soon. This means that world powers will try to control the Middle East, and I prefer the US instead of Russia or China. And something else; Iran might have a military industry. But that industry won't last long. I am sure you follow the news, but if you don't: the UN / USA / Israel have approved, and are still approving, many sanctions against Iran. They are isolating Iran, they are destroying Iran's economy. Iran is not selling much oil & gas anymore. And your claim about Iran not needing foreign arms is not true either. They recently imported anti-riot gear via South Kurdistan. So Iran is not even able to produce its own anti-riot gear, let alone heavy arms to support a war with a world power (USA) and a regional power (Israel). Once Iran's economy is weakened to the max, they won't be able to sustain a military war. That's when they will attack :).[/b] Edited by Worldwar2boy, Aug 5 13, 12:21.
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